Xen Posted 30 May 2015 Posted 30 May 2015 Take out the clubs that started and finished with the same manager. Here are 3 to start Derby Ipswich and Wolves oh and Bournemouth. Your 1.7 is looking a little different. Note that I said that was a rough guess of how many managers each club had, NOT how many changes each club made. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014%E2%80%9315_Football_League_Championship#Managerial_changes From the start of the season (8th August), there were 19 managerial changes. NINE clubs (not 4 like you claimed) had 1 manager for the whole season: Bournemouth, Middlesbrough, Brentford, Ipswich, Wolves, Derby, Blackburn, Sheffield Wednesday, Rotherham TWELVE clubs had 2: Norwich, Birmingham, Cardiff, Charlton, Forest, Huddersfield, Fulham, Bolton, Reading, Brighton, Millwall, Blackpool. Leeds and Wigan had 3 managers. Watford had 4. This doesn't include managerial changes which happened before (4) or after (3) the season. In total, that leads to 43 managers in place over the duration of the season (slightly fewer if you discount duplicates from managers who held the role at multiple clubs). For 24 clubs, that averages out to 1.79 managers each. Considering that my 1.7 figure was just an educated guess, I'd say that's pretty good going.
sylofox Posted 30 May 2015 Posted 30 May 2015 Note that I said that was a rough guess of how many managers each club had, NOT how many changes each club made. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014%E2%80%9315_Football_League_Championship#Managerial_changes From the start of the season (8th August), there were 19 managerial changes. NINE clubs (not 4 like you claimed) had 1 manager for the whole season: Bournemouth, Middlesbrough, Brentford, Ipswich, Wolves, Derby, Blackburn, Sheffield Wednesday, Rotherham TWELVE clubs had 2: Norwich, Birmingham, Cardiff, Charlton, Forest, Huddersfield, Fulham, Bolton, Reading, Brighton, Millwall, Blackpool. Leeds and Wigan had 3 managers. Watford had 4. This doesn't include managerial changes which happened before (4) or after (3) the season. In total, that leads to 43 managers in place over the duration of the season (slightly fewer if you discount duplicates from managers who held the role at multiple clubs). For 24 clubs, that averages out to 1.79 managers each. Considering that my 1.7 figure was just an educated guess, I'd say that's pretty good going. I never claimed there was only 4 clubs. I said I had 3 to start off the list then added Bournemouth as I knew they had not changed manager. Also I was not saying you were wrong I was making the point if you discount the clubs that have not changed manager the 1.7 was wrong not that you were wrong.
foxoffderby Posted 16 June 2015 Posted 16 June 2015 (edited) http://www.teamtalk.com/features/16129/9885423/TEAMtalk-Soccers-Game-of-the-Season No surprise to me. Most talked about game for most neutrals. Quoted as saying game of an era Edited 16 June 2015 by foxoffderby
foxoffderby Posted 16 June 2015 Posted 16 June 2015 http://www.teamtalk.com/features/16129/9885370/TEAMtalk-Soccers-Signing-of-the-Season Hes magic
Nod.E Posted 16 June 2015 Posted 16 June 2015 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_Football_League_managers Quite shocking how few managers are even close to what I'd consider 'long term'. To think he'd be third on that list and approaching 7 years if he stayed with us in the 10/11 season.
stox259 Posted 16 June 2015 Posted 16 June 2015 Leicester are the template for us, as Reid said last summer. They're the perfectly run, stable club who are now where we want to be and you can only see them going from strength to strength. Sure we've got many problems compared to them in terms of team and manager but they're stadium also gives them a huge advantage. While we feel 'small time', the CG is crumbling, they feel 'big time', their stadium feels premier league, everything about how they've gone about it is good really, it's nauseating to an extent, but if we want to learn and get to where they are, we ought to heed their example. And building a new stadium would be a good start and a great uplift. From the Forest forum. Have to say I enjoy reading the envious quotes from other fans. Keeps a perspective of how well we are doing and how 'the other half live'. I remember for so long being behind all of our local rivals but now we are such a good footing. It would take a massive overall from Forest and Cov to get anywhere near where we are currently and where we could potentially go. However, we are always only one crap manager/owner away from disaster. In Nigel/Top we trust
Fox in the North Posted 16 June 2015 Posted 16 June 2015 You say that but their opinions of us are extremely low in ltlf's discussion on building a new stadium.
Dan Posted 16 June 2015 Posted 16 June 2015 Shows how far we've gone really. Wasn't THAT long ago we were behind them.
Livid Posted 16 June 2015 Posted 16 June 2015 You say that but their opinions of us are extremely low in ltlf's discussion on building a new stadium. I read back a few page's and for saying they don't care about us they seem to be mentioning us quite a bit. 1
stox259 Posted 16 June 2015 Posted 16 June 2015 You say that but their opinions of us are extremely low in ltlf's discussion on building a new stadium. Oh yeah they absolutely can't stand us. Which makes the reading that little bit sweeter Interesting debate they are having. What comes first the stadium or success? Would we be we are now if we were still in Filbert Street?
Captain... Posted 16 June 2015 Posted 16 June 2015 (edited) Oh yeah they absolutely can't stand us. Which makes the reading that little bit sweeter Interesting debate they are having. What comes first the stadium or success? Would we be we are now if we were still in Filbert Street? It is an interesting debate, when to upgrade the stadium. If we hadn't moved from Filbo we wouldn't have ended up in administration, but it's not like the money wasn't there to spend while it was being built, it was just Tater Peeler mis-spent it. Arguably getting the new stadium, agreed at the height of our success, set us back a long way and started us on our downward trajectory. It probably also helped attract our owners and significant investment. A nice shiny new stadium is no guarantee of anything, look at Coventry. For Forest I think they would be mad to try and build a new stadium now, even if they have that kind of money to hand, Forest have as good a chance as anyone in getting promoted next season, Burnley, QPR and Hull could all very easily struggle, which leaves Boro, Derby, Brentford, Wolves, Ipswich as the competition. All focus should be on getting into the PL, then they can do a Burnley, give it a good, but don't over spend, then they will have the finances to build a new stadium or upgrade the old one. A small old stadium is no barrier to success, look at Bournemouth, Watford, QPR, Burnley I think they are just trying to justify why they are in the position they are in, and it is nothing to do with the City Ground, you can upgrade the ground all you want, but you can't polish a turd. Edited 16 June 2015 by Captain...
The Year Of The Fox Posted 16 June 2015 Posted 16 June 2015 Why would anyone volutarily give up their original ground such as CG or Turf Moor?
Corky Posted 16 June 2015 Posted 16 June 2015 (edited) They don't need a new ground, probably need to upgrade the main stand if that's possible. I must say I do feel we're run properly whilst Fawaz is almost a fan making heart-over-head decisions. He needs to take a step back and not get so involved on Twitter with supporters and such like. Edited 16 June 2015 by Corky
davieG Posted 16 June 2015 Posted 16 June 2015 I’ll be focusing on Leicester City . Of course, all of this is my own opinion, so feel free to disagree and debate! Leicester City I think that if you had offered 14th place to a Leicester City fan at the start of the season, they would have been overjoyed with that. Leicester City had not been in the Premier League for some time and, arguably, not much was expected of them under Nigel Pearson, a manager who did not have a huge amount of top-flight experience in the top seat. They started the season with much the same squad that got them promoted but with the addition of Marc Albrighton on a free transfer from Aston Villa, a poor move by Villa considering how poorly their season went. Leo Ulloa also joined for 8 million Pounds from Brighton – he went on to score a number of goals over the course of the season. The key signing though was the former two-time UEFA Champions League-winning midfielder Esteban Cambiasso on a free transfer from Internazionale – a quality defensive midfield addition to any club and a real midfield leader for a club that desperately needed more top-flight experience. Cambiasso has been by far the best signing for Leicester Right from the start of the season, Leicester showed they would not be pushed around. Unfortunately, their style of open and attacking football and a substantial lack of luck meant that they were in the relegation places at Christmas. However, they began a run late in the season and managed to stay up, thanks to some great defensive performances, led by Wes Morgan and the on-loan Robert Huth in the centre of defence and Kasper Schmeichel in goals and a midfield marshalled effectively by Cambiasso, with some creativity from Mahrez, who looked very impressive with his slaloming runs from midfield with the ball at his feet. Leicester managed to secure their survival before the final day, partially due to the poor form of Newcastle, Sunderland and Aston Villa. If Leicester were able to repeat this season’s achievements in the upcoming season, I don’t think any of their fans would be unhappy with 14th place at the close of that campaign. It is a desperately difficult job for a club coming up from the Championship to stay in the Premier League for any length of time, even if they are well-funded – just ask Hull City or Q.P.R. fans! However, Leicester will need to put together a squad with greater depth. Their most disappointing player of the season must be Paul Konchesky – a vastly experienced full-back at Premiership level after spells with Charlton, Fulham and Liverpool, he performed poorly in most matches, with his age possibly having a factor in this and was largely outperformed by the young Jeffrey Schlupp. Leicester’s best player, for me, was probably a tie between Cambiasso, Ulloa and Mahrez, all of whom impressed multiple times over the course of the season. For Leicester to progress, I think they need another goalkeeper to compete with Schmeichel, at least 2 centre-backs (former Gunner Matthew Upson has already been released), another quality defensive midfielder (nothing wrong with Drinkwater’s work rate, just maybe not quality enough for the Premier League) and perhaps another striker – Jamie Vardy also lacks sufficient top-flight quality for me. Pearson does, however, have a chairman who will spend in the summer to reinforce, which can be a good thing for Leicester. Competition for Jamie Vardy? Arsenal Loanee? – As I mentioned above with Huth and Upson not at Leicester next term, Pearson will be looking for new cover in the centre of his defence. Leicester do play attacking football on the deck and have huge potential in Isaac Hayden, badly in need of football after a season entirely disrupted by injury. A season in which the young Gun hoped to push for first team football at the Emirates. An additional advantage for the Foxes is that Hayden can also play comfortably at the base of the midfield. Hayden needs to be tested With the arrival of Gabriel, Hayden will find his early season opportunities limited to the League Cup and if he impresses on pre-season as he did in the summer of 2014 I am certain Wenger will be looking for a loan out. Leicester City under Pearson certainly makes for a more attractive home then our next destination under Pulis. http://www.gunnerstown.com/arsenal/2015/06/16/west-brom-and-leicester-squad-additions-needed-to-repeat-this-years-feat-and-could-one-be-an-arsenal-loanee/?
Dan Posted 16 June 2015 Posted 16 June 2015 Why on earth would Forest get a new ground? Their current one is big enough and it's actually a very decent ground too IMO. It's unique.
Stadt Posted 16 June 2015 Posted 16 June 2015 Never been to the CG but it seems like it can be quite loud from both sets of fans
Wymsey Posted 17 June 2015 Posted 17 June 2015 (edited) Why on earth would Forest get a new ground? Their current one is big enough and it's actually a very decent ground too IMO. It's unique. And quite a few good bars nearby too, and easy to get out of the hole afterwards. Edited 17 June 2015 by Wymeswold fox
SystonFox Posted 17 June 2015 Posted 17 June 2015 Never been to the CG but it seems like it can be quite loud from both sets of fans I've been four times. It's shit. Home fans shit. I know this cos once I sat in with them (the one where we had '8,000 turn around and bounce at 2:55)
Gary Eatfood Posted 17 June 2015 Posted 17 June 2015 Why on earth would Forest get a new ground? Their current one is big enough and it's actually a very decent ground too IMO. It's unique. The away stand is awful to watch football from though.
sylofox Posted 17 June 2015 Posted 17 June 2015 The away stand is awful to watch football from though. Who would go to florest to watch football anyway?
Bilo Posted 17 June 2015 Posted 17 June 2015 Forest would have to be nuts to build a new ground. The capacity is only a couple of thousand less than ours, and a new Main Stand would probably make it bigger than the KP. Unless they're going to get to the Premier League and stay here for a number of years, something that looks a long way off at the moment, a stadium with anywhere near a 40k capacity would be an expensive white elephant.
Gary Eatfood Posted 17 June 2015 Posted 17 June 2015 Who would go to florest to watch football anyway? MK Dons fans....
Wymsey Posted 17 June 2015 Posted 17 June 2015 You never know with Fawaz (SP?), what his intentions are. Probably want Champions League in 5 years and a statue of Matty Fryatt erected outside the ground. 1
Hollism Posted 18 June 2015 Posted 18 June 2015 You never know with Fawaz (SP?), what his intentions are. Probably want Champions League in 5 years and a statue of Matty Fryatt erected outside the ground. Well who doesn't?
Jordan Posted 18 June 2015 Posted 18 June 2015 You never know with Fawaz (SP?), what his intentions are. Probably want Champions League in 5 years and a statue of Matty Fryatt erected outside the ground. There is one thing we know with Fawaz--if there's going to be a statue outside, it'll be of Fawaz himself.
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