Tottenham and other disturbances / riots

[Simmo86]

Can best be summarised by saying 'herp derp.'

Basically we shouldn't be helping the Libyan people, or have imaginary troops in Egypt, we should be pouring everything into invading Israel to help the Palestinians.

Somehow smashing up Cruise and Currys Digital in Leicester will radically change British foreign policy in his 'mind.'

Words fail me

[Ashley]

I don't know if its been mentioned but what are peoples views on football hooligans fighting, stopping the rioters?

[DJ Barry Hammond]

I don't know if its been mentioned but what are peoples views on football hooligans fighting, stopping the rioters?

Idiots vs idiots sounds appealing, but it would end up in a mess that someone would have to clear up. there is also the worry the two groups could find something in common and begin procrastinating.

[davieG]

Leicester's contribution

Merc today.

Peaceful protestors were among those out on the streets of Leicester yesterday to try to prevent further violence.

A group of about 30 people gathered at the Clock Tower waving banners and playing music from about 3.30pm.

More pictures here -

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/united/story-13112047-detail/story.html

They were led by 18-year-old Austin Williams, of St Mark's, Leicester, who helped organise the demonstration following a meeting of residents and community groups in Highfields.

Mr Williams said: "We've been voicing how we feel about the riots and doing what we can to prevent them.

"We're all about getting kids to harness their energy and make a difference."

Faith leaders also joined together to offer comfort and support to people and businesses affected by Tuesday night's violence.

Representatives from the Christian, Hindu, Muslim and Sikh faiths visited some locations which saw trouble, including Granby Street, the cultural quarter and the Highcross.

The event was organised by Riaz Ravat, of the St Philip's Centre, an Evington charity which promotes inter-faith relations in Leicester.

He said: "We've been appalled by the incidents that have taken place. There's quite a bit of anger and, as faith communities, we need to show a united front."

Suleman Nagdi, of the Federation of Muslim Organisations, said: "We need to send a message that an attack on one section of the community is an attack on us all."

Resham Singh Sandhu, chairman of the Sikh Welfare and Culture Society, said he had spoken with Sikh youths in East Park Road on Tuesday evening who were guarding not only their temple and shops from potential attack, but also the mosque.

He said: "I'm saddened this has happened but we're lucky we respect each other in Leicester, because we have to look after each other."

The Right Reverend Christopher Boyle, assistant Bishop of Leicester, said: "We've endeavoured to show solidarity for the city of Leicester and its citizens"

Volunteers also took to the streets during a clean-up operation in the aftermath of the trouble.

About 15 volunteers met at the Clock Tower at 9am after word of the event spread on social networking websites.

Aimee Packwood, 25, of Clarendon Park, a member of Voluntary Action Leicestershire, said: "The fact people have come out to clean up shows more want to make this kind of difference, rather than what happened last night. There was a peaceful protest but it was hijacked by people who wanted to cause trouble."

Representatives from the city wardens were also on hand to help out.

Fosse warden Jethro Swift said: "What happened last night was atrocious but cleaning up is the right thing to do. It shows the great community spirit we have in Leicester."

City MPs condemned the violence and praised police. Leicester South MP Jon Ashworth was due to speak in Parliament today to put pressure on the Prime Minister to confirm Leicester had all the resources to support police dealing with incidents.

He said: "What we have seen by a small minority is shocking and, though we have not witnessed the criminality of the scale of other cities, there must be no excuse for the burglary and vandalism our city experienced last night.

"I want to commend the bravery of the police in Leicester who have been consistently excellent on the frontline."

Leicester East MP Keith Vaz said: "The damage this senseless criminality has caused will not be tolerated, however, we need to get to the bottom of the reasons why this tiny minority have behaved in this disgraceful way."

[MC Prussian]

Can best be summarised by saying 'herp derp.'

Basically we shouldn't be helping the Libyan people, or have imaginary troops in Egypt, we should be pouring everything into invading Israel to help the Palestinians.

Somehow smashing up Cruise and Currys Digital in Leicester will radically change British foreign policy in his 'mind.'

The guy has no idea and comes up with a mumbojumbo of excuses to justify his acts of violence.

Just like the looters and rioters in London, Manchester, Birmingham, Bristol or Liverpool.

"Police... has been tryin' to harass us..." Yeah, right. How and when have they been "trying"?

Just another of those clueless cretins who's simply in it for the kicks. Well 'ard, innit?

[Houdini Logic]

Leicester's contribution

'Izz time ta put Lesta Citeh on da map'

Yeah, for having the most feeble, pathetic 'rioters' in the country.

They've let the city down in every way

[Leicester_Loyal]

Idiots vs idiots sounds appealing, but it would end up in a mess that someone would have to clear up. there is also the worry the two groups could find something in common and begin procrastinating.

Football lads were the first ones on the streets defending it, all over the country. They were stopping the rioters, the looters and the people who were smashing up the shops. You call them idiots, but what are you doing about the rioters? Thats right, nothing. Your sitting on FoxesTalk slagging these lads off while their out there defending OUR high street.

[Daggers]

Football lads were the first ones on the streets defending it, all over the country. They were stopping the rioters, the looters and the people who were smashing up the shops. You call them idiots, but what are you doing about the rioters? Thats right, nothing. Your sitting on FoxesTalk slagging these lads off while their out there defending OUR high street.

Yep - I'm eternally grateful to the lobotomised ****tards of the EDL for spending a day on the piss before occupying the time of the police rather than allowing them to do their job.

"Defending OUR high street"

[DJ Barry Hammond]

Football lads were the first ones on the streets defending it, all over the country. They were stopping the rioters, the looters and the people who were smashing up the shops. You call them idiots, but what are you doing about the rioters? Thats right, nothing. Your sitting on FoxesTalk slagging these lads off while their out there defending OUR high street.

I take it you one of the 'defenders'? Well, good to you, but I can't believe that footy hooligans would take this stance without the lure of being able to have a ruckus with others.

Where they also one of the first lots out to clean up the streets after the mess had been created?

[Leicester_Loyal]

Yep - I'm eternally grateful to the lobotomised ****tards of the EDL for spending a day on the piss before occupying the time of the police rather than allowing them to do their job.

"Defending OUR high street"

Its got **** all to do with the EDL? Its football lads, not EDL. So don't understand what point your trying to make there.

And actually no Barry I wasn't. Sorry for biting your head off btw, just annoys me when people slag these boys off, if it wasn't for them, things would have gotten a lot worse in town.

EDIT: And Daggers, they stopped the police doing their job? Are you nuts pal? Theres a reason parts of London, B'ham and other places got torn apart, its because the police didn't do anything, they let the rioters take control.

Theres also a reason it stopped in B'ham, it never kicked off in parts of London (Spurs, Millwall, Charlton) and here. Its because the football lads stood on the high streets.

[Leicester_Loyal]

Oh and another thing, a police officer was attacked on Melton Road on Tuesday/Wednesday night, he was on the ground being kicked and beaten up. Three passing EDL members pushed them off the policeman and chased them until they were far enough away from the officer. They then went back and helped him up and helped him get an ambulance etc.

Now, I am no supporter of the EDL, I think half the stuff they do is silly, causing trouble in other cities etc. But I'm not going to tar them all with the same brush. How many of you here would have honestly said you'd have helped that officer? When hes being beaten up by a few lads, would you step in and risk getting beaten up as well?

[Unit]

Its got **** all to do with the EDL? Its football lads, not EDL. So don't understand what point your trying to make there.

And actually no Barry I wasn't. Sorry for biting your head off btw, just annoys me when people slag these boys off, if it wasn't for them, things would have gotten a lot worse in town.

EDIT: And Daggers, they stopped the police doing their job? Are you nuts pal? Theres a reason parts of London, B'ham and other places got torn apart, its because the police didn't do anything, they let the rioters take control.

Theres also a reason it stopped in B'ham, it never kicked off in parts of London (Spurs, Millwall, Charlton) and here. Its because the football lads stood on the high streets.

It never kicked off in 'spurs' (I assume you mean Tottenham?) There was me thinking that's where the riots started.

edit: that last story you posted about the EDL members helping up a policeman bought a tear to my eye, what wonderful people.

[21st Century Fox]

Oh and another thing, a police officer was attacked on Melton Road on Tuesday/Wednesday night, he was on the ground being kicked and beaten up. Three passing EDL members pushed them off the policeman and chased them until they were far enough away from the officer. They then went back and helped him up and helped him get an ambulance etc.

Now, I am no supporter of the EDL, I think half the stuff they do is silly, causing trouble in other cities etc. But I'm not going to tar them all with the same brush. How many of you here would have honestly said you'd have helped that officer? When hes being beaten up by a few lads, would you step in and risk getting beaten up as well?

Being a member of the EDL sounds as if it was coincidental to actually being a human being in that instance.

[acooling08]

All the rioters across the country need to be rounded up and stuck in their own army regiment/division and stuck on the front line is the middle East. They all die, Taliban die, everybody wins.

[Rincewind]

I had trouble understanding what those lads were saying in that video. Did they have to go out that night? And what reaction did they expect from the police when they smashed a window or two? A pat on the back? If they want their voices heard it would help if those willing to help could see who they were helping.

There are a lot of problems at grass root levels. Lack of facilities etc for youngsters and teenagers but smashing up the only meeting place in a community for them will not encourage the authorities to improve the facilities.

There are many communities where the young do things off their own back to improve things rather than just sitting behind Xboxes and playstaions and moaning that 'there is nothing to do' These youth are not newsworthy so the disruptful ones hit the headlines more.

As for 'football hooligans' defending the streets. Why the label? Why not just say a group of people were helping to protect property? What has the fact that some may be football supporters got to do with it. I don't regard those that went intent on a fight as football supporters just louts no better than the rioters.

Not religious but it is good to see members of all faiths coming together to appeal for calm and peace. Religion or race cannot be used as a reason to cause trouble. One less excuse to justify their actions.

Don't these idiots realise that if they smash up an off license one night they wont be able to buy their daily dose of alco-pop the next day? Know what I mean? Innit..

[Bezzanator89]

Tottenham vs Everton game has been called off. No surprise there.

[Daggers]

Theres also a reason it stopped in B'ham, it never kicked off in parts of London (Spurs, Millwall, Charlton) and here. Its because the football lads stood on the high streets.

If we maintain our focus on this dimension instead of whatever bubbleverse you are living in, it would be helpful.

It stopped in Birmingham because of "football lads" (whatever the fvck that is if it isn't EDL)? Bollocks. It hasn't stopped, the incident rate has dropped due to community leaders speaking with one voice and a change in policing tactics, coupled with numerous arrests.

Millwall/Charlton is the documented incident of EDL on the piss I have clearly referred to.

And lastly, and you must be the only person oblivious to this fact, Tottenham has been soundly dicked over by rioters.

[Trav Le Bleu]

I'm going to print that off and put it on the wall at work!

[Daggers]

Tottenham vs Everton game has been called off. No surprise there.

You'd have thought this would have been a cert to go ahead considering the Spurs "football lads" ensured that nothing happened there...

[Trav Le Bleu]

What an absolute credit that man is to humanity, to be able to come out like that the day after that's happened to his family in an effort to save more people.

World would be a far better place with more people like him.

Thought exactly the same when I saw him on the news yesterday.

[Daggers]

Listening to Cameron and Miliband talking to Parliament this morning, I'm put in a mood to go out and smash some stuff up.

No solutions, no idea - just guff and hot air.

[Thracian]

Merc today.

Peaceful protestors were among those out on the streets of Leicester yesterday to try to prevent further violence.

A group of about 30 people gathered at the Clock Tower waving banners and playing music from about 3.30pm.

More pictures here -

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/united/story-13112047-detail/story.html

They were led by 18-year-old Austin Williams, of St Mark's, Leicester, who helped organise the demonstration following a meeting of residents and community groups in Highfields.

Mr Williams said: "We've been voicing how we feel about the riots and doing what we can to prevent them.

"We're all about getting kids to harness their energy and make a difference."

Faith leaders also joined together to offer comfort and support to people and businesses affected by Tuesday night's violence.

Representatives from the Christian, Hindu, Muslim and Sikh faiths visited some locations which saw trouble, including Granby Street, the cultural quarter and the Highcross.

The event was organised by Riaz Ravat, of the St Philip's Centre, an Evington charity which promotes inter-faith relations in Leicester.

He said: "We've been appalled by the incidents that have taken place. There's quite a bit of anger and, as faith communities, we need to show a united front."

Suleman Nagdi, of the Federation of Muslim Organisations, said: "We need to send a message that an attack on one section of the community is an attack on us all."

Resham Singh Sandhu, chairman of the Sikh Welfare and Culture Society, said he had spoken with Sikh youths in East Park Road on Tuesday evening who were guarding not only their temple and shops from potential attack, but also the mosque.

He said: "I'm saddened this has happened but we're lucky we respect each other in Leicester, because we have to look after each other."

The Right Reverend Christopher Boyle, assistant Bishop of Leicester, said: "We've endeavoured to show solidarity for the city of Leicester and its citizens"

Volunteers also took to the streets during a clean-up operation in the aftermath of the trouble.

About 15 volunteers met at the Clock Tower at 9am after word of the event spread on social networking websites.

Aimee Packwood, 25, of Clarendon Park, a member of Voluntary Action Leicestershire, said: "The fact people have come out to clean up shows more want to make this kind of difference, rather than what happened last night. There was a peaceful protest but it was hijacked by people who wanted to cause trouble."

Representatives from the city wardens were also on hand to help out.

Fosse warden Jethro Swift said: "What happened last night was atrocious but cleaning up is the right thing to do. It shows the great community spirit we have in Leicester."

City MPs condemned the violence and praised police. Leicester South MP Jon Ashworth was due to speak in Parliament today to put pressure on the Prime Minister to confirm Leicester had all the resources to support police dealing with incidents.

He said: "What we have seen by a small minority is shocking and, though we have not witnessed the criminality of the scale of other cities, there must be no excuse for the burglary and vandalism our city experienced last night.

"I want to commend the bravery of the police in Leicester who have been consistently excellent on the frontline."

Leicester East MP Keith Vaz said: "The damage this senseless criminality has caused will not be tolerated, however, we need to get to the bottom of the reasons why this tiny minority have behaved in this disgraceful way."

[Rincewind]

I must be thick or out of touch. What is EDL? It was good what those lads did to help the policeman but if the y were members of the EDL and they were like what is being portrayed on here I'm wondering what those lads would have done to the attackers if they caught them and would it be justified. As it is said do two wrongs make a right? Those lads may have been members but not active. Joined fbecause of boredom or to be part of the 'crowd'

Well done to them anyway. There is hope yet.

[Bezzanator89]

I must be thick or out of touch. What is EDL? It was good what those lads did to help the policeman but if the y were members of the EDL and they were like what is being portrayed on here I'm wondering what those lads would have done to the attackers if they caught them and would it be justified. As it is said do two wrongs make a right? Those lads may have been members but not active. Joined fbecause of boredom or to be part of the 'crowd'

Well done to them anyway. There is hope yet.

EDL = English Defense League, made a protest in Leicester City Centre last October.

[Thracian]

Merc today.

Peaceful protestors were among those out on the streets of Leicester yesterday to try to prevent further violence.

A group of about 30 people gathered at the Clock Tower waving banners and playing music from about 3.30pm.

More pictures here -

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/united/story-13112047-detail/story.html

They were led by 18-year-old Austin Williams, of St Mark's, Leicester, who helped organise the demonstration following a meeting of residents and community groups in Highfields.

Mr Williams said: "We've been voicing how we feel about the riots and doing what we can to prevent them.

"We're all about getting kids to harness their energy and make a difference."

Faith leaders also joined together to offer comfort and support to people and businesses affected by Tuesday night's violence.

Representatives from the Christian, Hindu, Muslim and Sikh faiths visited some locations which saw trouble, including Granby Street, the cultural quarter and the Highcross.

The event was organised by Riaz Ravat, of the St Philip's Centre, an Evington charity which promotes inter-faith relations in Leicester.

He said: "We've been appalled by the incidents that have taken place. There's quite a bit of anger and, as faith communities, we need to show a united front."

Suleman Nagdi, of the Federation of Muslim Organisations, said: "We need to send a message that an attack on one section of the community is an attack on us all."

Resham Singh Sandhu, chairman of the Sikh Welfare and Culture Society, said he had spoken with Sikh youths in East Park Road on Tuesday evening who were guarding not only their temple and shops from potential attack, but also the mosque.

He said: "I'm saddened this has happened but we're lucky we respect each other in Leicester, because we have to look after each other."

The Right Reverend Christopher Boyle, assistant Bishop of Leicester, said: "We've endeavoured to show solidarity for the city of Leicester and its citizens"

Volunteers also took to the streets during a clean-up operation in the aftermath of the trouble.

About 15 volunteers met at the Clock Tower at 9am after word of the event spread on social networking websites.

Aimee Packwood, 25, of Clarendon Park, a member of Voluntary Action Leicestershire, said: "The fact people have come out to clean up shows more want to make this kind of difference, rather than what happened last night. There was a peaceful protest but it was hijacked by people who wanted to cause trouble."

Representatives from the city wardens were also on hand to help out.

Fosse warden Jethro Swift said: "What happened last night was atrocious but cleaning up is the right thing to do. It shows the great community spirit we have in Leicester."

City MPs condemned the violence and praised police. Leicester South MP Jon Ashworth was due to speak in Parliament today to put pressure on the Prime Minister to confirm Leicester had all the resources to support police dealing with incidents.

He said: "What we have seen by a small minority is shocking and, though we have not witnessed the criminality of the scale of other cities, there must be no excuse for the burglary and vandalism our city experienced last night.

"I want to commend the bravery of the police in Leicester who have been consistently excellent on the frontline."

Leicester East MP Keith Vaz said: "The damage this senseless criminality has caused will not be tolerated, however, we need to get to the bottom of the reasons why this tiny minority have behaved in this disgraceful way."

Quite uplifting until I read the preaching of "example-man" Vaz.