Dan Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 I think this thread is exactly what the paper aimed for. Mind you, I'll stick the people on the growing list of awful, from now on unreadable papers. So good day to them.
Father Ted Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 I would have got rid if he didnt bring so many players. Tactically inept and loves his favourites.
phildw Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 It is totally bollox agreed but I think it will be interesting if we do pick up less than 10 points from the next five games. Think it will test the Thais resolve to the limit and I certainly don't thInk they will shy away from a decision - you don't do well in business without making some tough decisions. Like it or not I think in reality the next 5 games are probably going to be the most important games in Svens tenure so far.
volpeazzurro Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 I would have got rid if he didnt bring so many players. Tactically inept and loves his favourites. Yeah, I think that sums him up!
Phube Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 Why not make it a sensational double swoop of Marlon 'woman beater' King and El Hadji 'spitting pig' Diouf? A club to be proud of...
Corky Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 I would have got rid if he didnt bring so many players. Tactically inept and loves his favourites. Yeah, it's not as if the fans have their favourites is it?
21st Century Fox Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 Strange how this article comes along during an international break when they have nothing else to fill they're pages with.
djedmundo Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 Errors from start to end - my 4 year old could write a better article!
ealingfox Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 Close this thread please it makes me angry just looking at it - the media these days really is ****ed!
Jace Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 cant see this being true although does anybody remember that story in the mirror i think it was that said milan was going to sack martin allen after that 4-1 win and not many of us believed it and then few days later he did
accessory Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 Yeah, it's not as if the fans have their favourites is it? Fans aren't being paid £30k/week to produce results. But this story is cack. If King Power didn't trust Sven, why would they have given him £15m to spend, with the likelihood of more in January?
FoxyPV Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 I'd love to be a tabloid journo. If you've a deadline coming up with no story on the horizon, just make one up and no one will blink an eye.
Les-TA-Jon Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 Even if Sven did go at some point this season - I don't think MON would be the correct candidate.
leicesterisme Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 To think these people who consistently fill their paper with crap day in day out get payed for doing it makes me feel sick. Fvcking waste of space, the lot of them.
Father Ted Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 Yeah, it's not as if the fans have their favourites is it? Maybe fans can see that you shouldnt play 4-5-1 at home. Or that Vitor shouldnt have been dropped after scunthorpe. Or that Bruma was an awful cb, with both Mee and Vitor scratching their arses on the bench when they are both better. This is my opinion. I never joined in with the Weale chanting. I want us to play the best possible team that could harvest the best possible result.
Corky Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 Fans aren't being paid £30k/week to produce results. I know they aren't. But people only complain about manager's "favourites" when their own aren't being played or whatever.
Lcfc_k133 Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 I seriously cant understand what all of the fuss is about IMO we have had a pretty difficult start to our campain, Forest away is always difficult but we cruised to an easy victory before the ref decided he wanted to be the centre of attention, robbed of 2 points. we beat the unbeaten league leaders-and newly promoted who always do well. and we've played last years defeated play-off finalists (Reading) who are no mugs. All I might add whilst our team is still in its transition phase eg chelsea + Man city. We are already showing signs of clicking and when we do we will rise to the top of the pile. trick is to get and 'KEEP' Nugent fit and likewise with Beckford, Vassell more than capable if one is out. 2/3 and we should be fine
Corky Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 Maybe fans can see that you shouldnt play 4-5-1 at home. Or that Vitor shouldnt have been dropped after scunthorpe. Or that Bruma was an awful cb, with both Mee and Vitor scratching their arses on the bench when they are both better. This is my opinion. I never joined in with the Weale chanting. I want us to play the best possible team that could harvest the best possible result. I agree Sven has made mistakes. The 4-5-1 at home being one, which he rectified thankfully in the Southampton match which saw an excellent first half performance (the second wasn't good though).
Bugg Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 Maybe fans can see that you shouldnt play 4-5-1 at home. Or that Vitor shouldnt have been dropped after scunthorpe. Or that Bruma was an awful cb, with both Mee and Vitor scratching their arses on the bench when they are both better. This is my opinion. I never joined in with the Weale chanting. I want us to play the best possible team that could harvest the best possible result. I remember Pearson doing that in the Play-offs two seasons ago as well.
LCFC OK Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 I don't believe any of this paper nonsense but I think it more than fair to say that the owners expect success for their money and will be demanding an immediate and significant improvement in both performance and results. Come November if we are neither in the top six or improving to a top six challenge then Sven will be shown the door. There was swift action with Sousa and there will be swift action again, not being promoted this season is not an option. It may have been Milan who pulled the trigger but it was the Raksriaksorn's that loaded the gun and told him in which direction to aim. I dearly want Sven to take us up to the Premier league he can attract players we normally couldn't consider but right now there are so many things at fault both on the pitch with players defensive positional sense and in the dug out tactically. If every time we get two up you are going to change tactics, sit back and protect the lead then you need a well organised defence. The pressure is growing and time is ticking!
RowlattsFox Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 To be fair to Sven, we played 4-3-3/4-5-1 at home last season and we were winning games scoring lots of goals. Its just a formation that requires the team to be confident for it to be successful. With the right personnel I'd rather the 4-3-3 of last year than the diamond we've played recently. I really hope this story is rubbish, there'ss enough pressure has it is without having stories like this hanging over the teams head.
Thracian Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 There may well be nothing to this but something Sven said in an interview recently - and I honestly can't remember what it was - suggested to me that he was under more than the usual pressure a manager faces. And the reason MON is a dangerous name for Sven to have in the background is that the Thais seem to want to please the City fans and few things would do that better than getting MON back. MON left because he'd taken the club as far as it could go. But he might well believe the club could go further with the sort of financial backing we have now. Then the question would be, "Is it the right decision to have yet another massive on-field upheaval right now?" And the truth is I don't know. I don't say "never" but part of me says this is the wrong time for yet another change given that we've had far too many changes in our recent history already. Whatever limitations Sven might have, he's won plenty of honours, and at a decent level. The team he's put together has only just come together and has yet to play at full strength. But there are signs that they now have the potential to climb the table and if results do improve and Sven does get us up, he surely has the contacts and knowhow to keep us there and to do a good PR job while he's about it. But then so does MON. But, for all that I'm concerned that we've spent a considerable amount of money yet still have serious weaknesses in the team and have clearly failed to make the best of ourselves on occasions both this season and last. Our approach at Coventry was disturbing despite the victory, and the way we conceded the initiative against Forest and Southampton even more so. Throw in the fact that we tamely lost two or our three home games this season and are a little way off the pace for automatic promotion already and it's not the greatest advert for Sven's ability. Nor will the Thais have been greatly impressed by the insipid way we fell out of the promotion race last season having done so much hard work to get ourselves into contention after such a bad start. By any yardstick I'd say 6/10 is the best I could give Sven for his achievements so far and that's not good enough. He has to improve rapidly to retain his credibility especially considering that he seems to have been given almost exactly what he wants. We've spent millions of pounds improving our defence yet are still conceding two goals a game and that, despite having a much better 'keeper. Indeed if it were my defence, I wouldn't be happy at all. Think of the goals potenial MON had with his defenders even in the Premiership. Steve Walsh and Matt Elliott were seriously dangerous in the box and even Guppy was converted to full-back at times with all the potential for additional assists that gave us. Even assuming better opportunities for Mills and Bamba with the arrival of Beckford I honestly don't see us sourcing anywhere near as many goals from our back four as MON did - and yet that is precisely the sort of input which made our team so memorable under the Irishman. We were a team to be feared by even the top teams in the land at set-pieces because we had good delivery and so many potential scorers. Right now our set-pieces are often like dud fireworks on bonfire night and we certainly don't put fear into anyone. I don't think that's just down to the players. I've long questioned our coaching and tactical input yet nothing seems to have been done. Good players or not, a team needs to be inspired. They need to believe they're the best and they need to be convinced that their preparation is designed to compliment their abilities and to be effective. Yet what do we do? Go all defensive when we get in front! It's deflating. If there's one thing Ferguson is so good at it's persuading his team they are second best to no-one and thoughts like compromise and retreat aren't an option. We need that sort of psychology and I've always believed that MON instilled it as well. He had nothing special by way of resources at Leicester but still turned us into a dangerous and difficult team to beat because he played to our strengths, got people who could put the ball in the box and then made sure there were others who'd hurt themselves getting on the end of those balls. Not just Walsh and Elliott but Heskey, Marshall, Cottee and Muzzy Izzett...it was like an invasion. We're short of having that despite my saying we need to have goals potential in virtually every position. Yes the position has been improved slowly but not the potential for getting fast, accurate and dangerous crosses into the box with any regularity, either from the wings or from full-back. For me that's a major weakness and one I cannot believe we've not addressed, especially given the goals we concede. And if Sven doesn't sort it, and attend to those coaching details I've mentioned, the Thais might well lose patience.
Thracian Posted 4 September 2011 Posted 4 September 2011 I seriously cant understand what all of the fuss is about IMO we have had a pretty difficult start to our campain, Forest away is always difficult but we cruised to an easy victory before the ref decided he wanted to be the centre of attention, robbed of 2 points. we beat the unbeaten league leaders-and newly promoted who always do well. and we've played last years defeated play-off finalists (Reading) who are no mugs. All I might add whilst our team is still in its transition phase eg chelsea + Man city. We are already showing signs of clicking and when we do we will rise to the top of the pile. trick is to get and 'KEEP' Nugent fit and likewise with Beckford, Vassell more than capable if one is out. 2/3 and we should be fine Stop making the referee the excuse. Forest were a poor team on the day and there to be blitzed. We invited them back into the game and West Ham walloped them 4-1 away the following week to demonstrate exactly what we should have done. Yes, the referee played his part but if we'd continued to press the game it need never have happpened. Look at the cross for their second goal. Of course there was a foul on the back post but the ball should never have got there. The winger was given so much time and space to cross the ball it was like a training exercise.
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