Sven has 5 games to Save his Job

[jamesmilner]

i hear get off svens back , leave him to gel the side , in sven i trust etc etc etc etc etc etc . hes been here long enough and spent enough to be expected to put in a return . do you honestly think top is smiling with whats going on ? do you think he thinks time is of the essence ? do you think that the team needs time to gel ? were you all asleep when he sacked sousa after just 9 matches ? why do you think he sacked sousa ? has sven taken us forward ? is our record signing another ade akinbiyi ? looks so at the minute , he cant pass a ball 5 yards . do the other players he has bought make you tingle with anticipation when they play ? is his passion ,knowledge , contacts for players (yeah right ) smack you right in the face ? in his post match interviews does he make you proud to hear him speak ? does he fill you with confidence ?do you think he will rise like a pheonix ? its a poor situation we are in compared to the hype we made . we are still there or there ,but once again i say look back at what has been wrote on this forum by you about your/our expectations and look where we are now ? they just arent the same and dont tell me different because youd be lying .cue abuse .

[MC Prussian]

i hear get off svens back , leave him to gel the side , in sven i trust etc etc etc etc etc etc . hes been here long enough and spent enough to be expected to put in a return . do you honestly think top is smiling with whats going on ? do you think he thinks time is of the essence ? do you think that the team needs time to gel ? were you all asleep when he sacked sousa after just 9 matches ? why do you think he sacked sousa ? has sven taken us forward ? is our record signing another ade akinbiyi ? looks so at the minute , he cant pass a ball 5 yards . do the other players he has bought make you tingle with anticipation when they play ? is his passion ,knowledge , contacts for players (yeah right ) smack you right in the face ? in his post match interviews does he make you proud to hear him speak ? does he fill you with confidence ?do you think he will rise like a pheonix ? its a poor situation we are in compared to the hype we made . we are still there or there abouts but once again i say look back at what has been wrote on this forum by you about your/our expectations and look where we are now ? they just arent the same and dont tell me different because youd be lying .

Why don't you ask Sven and Top directly?

When was the last time a manager's talk made you brim with confidence? Sven isn't the most exciting person, but that's Sven.

When you watch MOTD or the Football League Show, you can clearly see that most post-match interviews do all sound the same, no matter what manager.

Some guys are more outspoken, others try hard not to say the wrong thing (after a defeat, for instance) others are angry, and some just don't give a sh*t about the media.

SGE's always been rather calm and thoughtful (you can look up old footage from his early days with Gothenburg if you want to for a comparison) and don't forget that English isn't his first language.

Despite his intelligence, he often struggles to come up with the appropriate answer and that's why his interviews all sound a bit alike.

How long would you give a manager on average to fit your profile of a "great" manager to sort things out? A day, a week, a month, a year, two years?

Top is indeed smiling, because he knows football is a silly old game and that you can't buy instant success. It's a process and this process has started a couple of weeks ago with the beginning of the new season.

These investors want to stick with Sven. They are patient. They know things won't work out overnight.

Sousa was sacked thanks to his poor start into the season.

Mills can pass a ball for five yards, but only with confidence intact.

And as a matter of fact, yes, the squad that we have right now does make me feel great each matchday, because it's twice the quality we had last season.

But that's only one side of the coin, because as a consequence of this quality squad, the opposition always puts in an extra shift.

Just because we have a great squad doesn't mean the others can't play football, either.

[Happy Fox]

Why don't you ask Sven and Top directly?

When was the last time a manager's talk made you brim with confidence? Sven isn't the most exciting person, but that's Sven.

He's always been rather calm and thoughtful (you can look up old footage from his early days with Gothenburg if you want to for a comparison) and don't forget that English isn't his first language.

Despite his intelligence, he often struggles to come up with the appropriate answer and that's why his interviews all sound a bit alike.

How long would you give a manager on average to fit your profile of a "great" manager to sort things out? A day, a week, a month, a year, two years?

Top is indeed smiling, because he knows football is a silly old game and that you can't buy instant success. It's a process and this process has started a couple of weeks ago with the beginning of the new season.

These investors want to stick with Sven. They are patient. They know things won't work out overnight.

Sousa was sacked thanks to his poor start into the season.

Mills can pass a ball for five yards, but only with confidence intact.

And as a matter of fact, yes, the squad that we have right now does make me feel great each matchday, because it's twice the quality we had last season.

That may be the case, but it isn't anyway near performing to the high standards that should be doing, so point your direction of blame to the Sven and coaching staff.

[MC Prussian]

That may be the case, but it isn't anyway near performing to the high standards that should be doing, so point your direction of blame to the Sven and coaching staff.

What "high standards"? We have a team consisting of players who were with Premier League clubs, above-average Championship players and promising youngsters from League One.

They're all of a different standard. That it doesn't work out as smooth as it should is only logical.

Yes, I can make assumptions based on their "standard" in theory myself, but how they play on the day is an entirely different chapter.

I don't think you can blame anyone. Again, we're in 10th position after only six games played.

Some of the hardcore doubters think we're already at the end of the season and stuck in this position, which is completely ludicrous.

Of course, you can question Sven's tactics (like leaving a striker out for the bench yesterday or sticking with the 4-3-3) or some of the player's attitude (and let's face it, they're all trying hard to make things happen and most do it very professionally).

But from what I gather, the management at this club doesn't go out there and buys players just for the sake of it.

Andrew Neville doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who's deliberately going after the wrong players.

It's only fair to assume the coaching staff, the owners and the management have a long-term plan.

When they say "promotion is the main goal", then I think the fans who're highly critical of the Raksiaksorns or Sven or his style or the ones who've never liked him in the first place, automatically assume we'd have to go up this season.

That the term "promotion" could mean that getting there is a long and winding road, regardless of how much money you put into the project, is oftentimes ignored by the same fans.

On the end, comes the matchday, it's all down to the influence of so many factors.

Like I mentioned earlier, it's not like we're the only team in this league. There is tough competition, because of the remaining teams wanting to gain promotion to the Premiership and because of the ones trying to avoid relegation.

This is the toughest second division worldwide and if you think this season should be a walk in the park, then you're sadly mistaken.

[Happy Fox]

What "high standards"? We have a team consisting of players who were with Premier League clubs, above-average Championship players and promising youngsters from League One.

They're all of a different standard. That it doesn't work out as smooth as it should is only logical. Yes, I can make assumptions based on their "standard" in theory myself, but how they play on the day is an entirely different chapter.

I don't think you can blame anyone. Again, we're in 10th position after only six games played.

Some of the hardcore doubters think we're already at the end of the season and stuck in this position, which is completely ludicrous.

Of course, you can question Sven's tactics (like leaving a striker out for the bench yesterday or sticking with the 4-3-3) or some of the player's attitude (and let's face it, they're all trying hard to make things happen and most do it very professionally).

In the end, it's all down to the mixture of so many factors.

Like I mentioned earlier, it's not like we're the only team in this league. There is tough competition, because of the remaining teams wanting to gain promotion to the Premiership and because of the ones trying to avoid relegation.

This is the toughest second division worldwide and if you think this season should be a walk in the park, then you're sadly mistaken.

No I don't think it will be a walk in the park not by any stretch of the imagination, but do the Thais? they probably feel that the start we have made given the money that is spent is poor and inexcusable, they want promotion, Top keeps on saying in every single interview, Sven will be sacked sooner rather than later imo.

[demon_dog]

I recall Alex Ferguson being only 1 game from the sack.

Our great fans calling for MON's head after 10 games.

Look at what happened in both cases.

I'm not saying that this is going to happen with Sven, I just think people should calm down and give the guy the benefit of the doubt at the moment.

[cc_star]

People who offer questions to Sven after another sub-par performance are accused of knee-jerk reactions, I don't think a year and 50 players later is knee-jerk, apart from an awesome February give or take a few games either side, we've been poor. He just looks a genius in comparison to Sousa

Give them time & they will gel & we'll be worldbeaters, if time is all that's needed why bother with a manager

IMO (if things don't take an upturn) the Derby home game on Oct 1st could see him move upstairs for the remainder of his contract & a puppet manager brought in to work 'under' him, of course a quality manager won't be happy working as a puppet & he'll take the blame rather than Sven

[MC Prussian]

No I don't think it will be a walk in the park not by any stretch of the imagination, but do the Thais? they probably feel that the start we have made given the money that is spent is poor and inexcusable, they want promotion, Top keeps on saying in every single interview, Sven will be sacked sooner rather than later imo.

The Raksiaksorns don't give me the impression that they'd sack a manager when it doesn't work out the way the fans expect it.

Being in 10th position after six games may not be satisfying enough, but it's way too early into a new season.

Just because we're not playing up to the self-set standards from the owner, the management or the fans, doesn't mean that it can't come good or that other teams won't slip up at one point themselves.

Just look at Derby who lost their second consecutive game yesterday. And that against Coventry.

In this league, it's so hard to predict how things turn out after 46 games.

I still can't see why we should be beating every other teams so easily, we're not the only ones playing football.

[Rincewind]

How would a new manager make a vast improvement? They would have to work with the players tht are here. No transfers until January. Even then it depends on the table position whether quality players would come here.

I am not sure about Sven. As it has been said he is not an hands on manager but didnt one of the players say post-match that Svens half time talk spurred them on second half? He said he never lost his temper by shouting but it was clear that he thought that they were not good enogh. Sven may leave the shouting to his ssistant and he does the calm bits. Good cop bad cop.

But saying that it is the owners that make the decisions. If they feel that the club will suffer financially because of the unrest by the fns and negative media coverage at some point they may feel a change is needed. They are business people after all.

If you owned a company and sales were down in one department you would question whether the head off that dept. was motivating his team to meet figures needed.

My question is who would replace Sven who has the experience and contacts in the game. Players know Sven and so do agents. He may have more pursuading powers than some think.

[Bettsy82]

Personally I think its way too early to be pushing the panic button. The start we have had is average but you cant really tell anything until christmas. The players we have brought in are mostly good proven championship players, but they dont seem to be performing to the best of their ability, why that is I dont know. Mills has had a very poor start to the season and pantsil and konchesky are not the right type of full backs to play in svens diamond formation, we need attacking full backs and neither of them are that. Svens obsession of playing this silly formation with the wrong personell is costing us dearly at the minute. It clearly isnt working so sven should hold his hands up and say he got it wrong and go 4 4 2. our squad on paper is as good as anyone elses in the championship other than west ham. But if these players are constantly being asked to do a job that they cant do what chance have you got. Sven has a lot to answer for. allowing the players who were not on int duty to take holidays was a joke as was the teams we played in pre season , none of which came close to what we are playing against now. I think sven needs to realise that he is managing a team in the championship that is full of championship players not a team on the continent full of international superstars. but I am being patient and still trust sven.

[shade]

mark these words. within a few games, we will kick on and start picking up an average of more than 2 points per game, and destroying opposition teams.

I can't divulge how I know this, the government would terminate me, but is is 100% fact.

[Bettsy82]

Why was Neil Danns allowed to take a weeks holiday in Barbados during the international break when he cant even take a good corner. And gallagher went to new york and hes awful , I mean really sven get a grip these players need a bollocking and to be worked hard on the training ground. Not a pat on the back and a weeks holiday ! poor poor management.

[dannythefox]

Why was Neil Danns allowed to take a weeks holiday in Barbados during the international break when he cant even take a good corner. And gallagher went to new york and hes awful , I mean really sven get a grip these players need a bollocking and to be worked hard on the training ground. Not a pat on the back and a weeks holiday ! poor poor management.

This. Plus those away on international duties was still training hard and playing which is great but those who wasn't selected why the hell would you just give them time off they should be training everyday all the shit they eat/drink away clearly showed yesterday as they were well of the pace!

[B52]

mark these words. within a few games, we will kick on and start picking up an average of more than 2 points per game, and destroying opposition teams.

I can't divulge how I know this, the government would terminate me, but is is 100% fact.

Loan market or betting purpose?

[Babylon]

all the shit they eat/drink away clearly showed yesterday as they were well of the pace!

Can I ask how you know what they were eating and drinking?

[Babylon]

Why was Neil Danns allowed to take a weeks holiday in Barbados during the international break when he cant even take a good corner. And gallagher went to new york and hes awful , I mean really sven get a grip these players need a bollocking and to be worked hard on the training ground. Not a pat on the back and a weeks holiday ! poor poor management.

[EnderbyFox]

I honestly cannot see why people are being this negative towards Sven, the same man who turned our season around last year. We are only 3 points outside the playoffs?! unbeaten away from home, not lost for 3 games and people are calling for his head

Some of you seriously need to get a grip and realise we aren't Man Utd, this pre-season hype has seriously gotten to your heads.

[Happy Fox]

I honestly cannot see why people are being this negative towards Sven, the same man who turned our season around last year. We are only 3 points outside the playoffs?! unbeaten away from home, not lost for 3 games and people are calling for his head

Some of you seriously need to get a grip and realise we aren't Man Utd, this pre-season hype has seriously gotten to your heads.

What happened last season I remember their was a similar scenario look where we ended up and it wasn't the playoffs.

[dannythefox]

Can I ask how you know what they were eating and drinking?

I don't no but for sure but it doesn't take a lot of working out! If that's not the case then there not training hard enough blowing at 70 mins is not good enough. Barnsley wasn't blowing they were well up for it.

[accessory]

I honestly cannot see why people are being this negative towards Sven, the same man who turned our season around last year. We are only 3 points outside the playoffs?! unbeaten away from home, not lost for 3 games and people are calling for his head

Some of you seriously need to get a grip and realise we aren't Man Utd, this pre-season hype has seriously gotten to your heads.

We've played 3 teams currently in the bottom 6 and gained ONE point out of 9. Our next 4 games are against teams in the top 6 who by definition are teams in form, while we are not.

In addition, we've just been outplayed at Barnsley, a venue where some of the worst sides in City's history have managed to win in the past, and home to a club whose prime ambition for the season is merely to finish 21st or higher. We set our team and manager slightly standards than that, and pay them accordingly. Why should we not have a pop when they fail to deliver?

[EnderbyFox]

We've played 3 teams currently in the bottom 6 and gained ONE point out of 9. Our next 4 games are against teams in the top 6 who by definition are teams in form, while we are not.

In addition, we've just been outplayed at Barnsley, a venue where some of the worst sides in City's history have managed to win in the past, and home to a club whose prime ambition for the season is merely to finish 21st or higher. We set our team and manager slightly standards than that, and pay them accordingly. Why should we not have a pop when they fail to deliver?

I wasn't slating those who 'have a pop', everyone has the right to critique their teams performance, i was addressing those who are calling for Sven's head- which quite frankly, i view as a knee jerk reaction to a disappointing performance yesterday.

[lee(lcfc)]

we went down hill near the end of last season, that why we didnt reach play offs and we are still playing crap.

if you look at the last 14 games of last season we won 4 drew 4 lost 6,

[MC Prussian]

What happened last season I remember their was a similar scenario look where we ended up and it wasn't the playoffs.

It was a similar scenario six games into last year's season?

What shop do you get your comparisons from? I'd like to check it out.

[Babylon]

I don't no but for sure but it doesn't take a lot of working out!

Really, you think all professional sports people instantly go away for a week and suddenly start eating kebabs and drinking loads of beer?

[brockmyster]

We've played 3 teams currently in the bottom 6 and gained ONE point out of 9. Our next 4 games are against teams in the top 6 who by definition are teams in form, while we are not.

In addition, we've just been outplayed at Barnsley, a venue where some of the worst sides in City's history have managed to win in the past, and home to a club whose prime ambition for the season is merely to finish 21st or higher. We set our team and manager slightly standards than that, and pay them accordingly. Why should we not have a pop when they fail to deliver?

Got four points from four games