Babylon Posted 21 October 2011 Posted 21 October 2011 We plough the fields and scatter. The good seed on the land I remember singing something like this but I wouldn't be able to remember the words, I must have blanked it out. Although our headmaster was a beatles fan and we sang beatles songs after each hymn.... and I remember every word of them
I am Rod Hull Posted 21 October 2011 Posted 21 October 2011 "Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will make your paths straight.".. Proverbs" 3:5-6
Fox92 Posted 21 October 2011 Posted 21 October 2011 I do not go to Church and I know very little about religion, but I do belive in God. The thought of death is sick though, I hate seeing funerals etc. However, I would like to think death leads us to another place - A place where you join a football team and you are playing alongside George Best, Brian Clough and Bobby Moore, a place where you watch a band perform and it consists of John Lennon, George Harrison and Keith Moon. A place where you are safe, with your family. I often wonder though, and I'll use the words of George Harrison - Why are we here? What are we doing? And where are we going?
Houdini Logic Posted 21 October 2011 Posted 21 October 2011 Jesus Christ died for his own sins, not mine.
Cat Burger Posted 21 October 2011 Posted 21 October 2011 If God was our creator, then in the words of J.B.S Haldane he has 'an inordinate fondness for Beetles'. Why would a god create 350,000 species' of beetles? Evolution just makes so much ****ing sense.
Koke Posted 21 October 2011 Posted 21 October 2011 Religion is declining. Even in the lesser developed countries religion is declining. I was in Djibouti in 2008 and I crossed the border into northern Somalia and both countries has a significant amount of people who are anti-religion. Perhaps it's the availability of the Internet in those nations that has made them critical of nationalism and religious practises. But it is good people are questioning things. But even though many in Somalia & Djibouti would be considered Agnostic, they'd still claim to be Muslim because they still identify with their Muslim upbringing and values. I hate religious leaders and I'd exterminate them all if I could. However, I don't actually think that "religion is the root of all evil". I know its popular to say that line, but even if religion was eradicated from the planet, we'd still problems like nationalism, racism, bigotry, homophobia, misogyny, corruption, wars, genocide etc.
Samilktray Posted 21 October 2011 Posted 21 October 2011 However, I would like to think death leads us to another place - A place where you join a football team and you are playing alongside George Best, Brian Clough and Bobby Moore, a place where you watch a band perform and it consists of John Lennon, George Harrison and Keith Moon. A place where you are safe, with your family.
ousefox Posted 21 October 2011 Posted 21 October 2011 The thought of death is sick though, I hate seeing funerals etc. However, I would like to think death leads us to another place - A place where you join a football team and you are playing alongside George Best, Brian Clough and Bobby Moore, a place where you watch a band perform and it consists of John Lennon, George Harrison and Keith Moon. A place where you are safe, with your family. Ha i wish! This is the problem with a lot of people. They want to be religious as it's comforting that when we die we'll all be in a better place, enjoying ourselves more than ever. People can't face the fact that when they die, that'll be it, they will be nothing. So they turn to religion and make themselves believe that they will always be around and be happy. Personally can't stand all religions. If you choose to be religious fine, but i just hate the restrictions it puts on so many people. One of my muslim mates isn't allowed to even come to our sixth form haloween party because there is likely to be drink around. He has had to miss out on so many social aspects of life and it just makes me wonder why so many people waste their time believing in something that is stopping them having fun in life.
Tom17LCFC Posted 21 October 2011 Posted 21 October 2011 I'm religious. Part of it may be because of the way I was brought up but for the most part it's my own choice. Granted I don't really go to Church, but I do believe in God. I can see why people disagree with it. I hate walking around and having leaflets shoved into your face by people saying 'change your ways before it's too late' or some crap like that. I don't see how that helps at all. I did R.S. for 2 years at A-Level, and if you actually have the time to read up on religion (Christianity, Hinduism, Islam etc.) I'd massively reccomend it because once you get your teeth into it it's well interesting looking at both sides of the coin.
The Doctor Posted 21 October 2011 Posted 21 October 2011 Ha i wish! This is the problem with a lot of people. They want to be religious as it's comforting that when we die we'll all be in a better place, enjoying ourselves more than ever. People can't face the fact that when they die, that'll be it, they will be nothing. So they turn to religion and make themselves believe that they will always be around and be happy. Personally can't stand all religions. If you choose to be religious fine, but i just hate the restrictions it puts on so many people. One of my muslim mates isn't allowed to even come to our sixth form haloween party because there is likely to be drink around. He has had to miss out on so many social aspects of life and it just makes me wonder why so many people waste their time believing in something that is stopping them having fun in life. I sort of agree with this, if there is a god and he loves us then wouldn't he want us to live life to it's fullest and just enjoy the time we have? I think the average life expectancy is roughly 700,000 hours so why not have fun with those, spend time with friends and family rather than obeying everything and cowering in fear of angering god?
Guest Bilo Posted 21 October 2011 Posted 21 October 2011 I was cold, I was naked, were you there, were you there? I was cold, I was naked, were you there. And the creed and the colour and the name won't matter, were you there. Wherever you travel I'll be there, I'll be there, Wherever you travel I'll be there. Now you're there in my trousers, pubic hair, pubic hair! Now you're there in my trousers pubic hair. They're not black, they're not ginger, they're not all that bushy, But they're there! Ah, my Year 6 version. Might have got a detention for that.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 21 October 2011 Posted 21 October 2011 I believe in God. It makes sense to me and I really object to people making out that you're stupid or uncultured by believing in god. It's atheism as a religion - they proselatyse and belittle the "non-believers" and say terrible things happen to those wjo don't believe what they believe. How is that any different from many religions? Why do I believe in God? I think it's because most people (there are some that don't - or at least ignore it) do have a sense of the spiritual, an wanting to understand our place in the greater scheme and a feeling of 70 years just isn't enough. Why are we like that if all this is just life creating life - have we "malfunctioned"? I also look at myth, legends and the holy writings of the different religions and it seems clear to me that whilst they differ they have huge similarities that speak to me a shared history... in the distant past supernatural events occured. (It's what Jung called Racial Memory.) I also see through history how we (humans) were once quite advanced and it's really only in the past two hundred years that we've surpassed the ancients, as if we had fallen from grace - a common theme of all religions and myths. Finally, as for criticisms that believing in God means you can't have fun.... do I look like I'm NOT having fun? Oh, wait, I forgot... I'm a City supporter.
Yojoe36 Posted 21 October 2011 Posted 21 October 2011 I've done all the 7 deadly sins. Broke most of the 10 commandments I always take "The Almighty One's" name in vein. Half of it's hypocritical, and it almost always contradicts it self. I mean take lust for example. If you didn't have the desire to shag, then life would die out.
coale39 Posted 21 October 2011 Posted 21 October 2011 I believe in God. It makes sense to me and I really object to people making out that you're stupid or uncultured by believing in god. It's atheism as a religion - they proselatyse and belittle the "non-believers" and say terrible things happen to those wjo don't believe what they believe. How is that any different from many religions? Why do I believe in God? I think it's because most people (there are some that don't - or at least ignore it) do have a sense of the spiritual, an wanting to understand our place in the greater scheme and a feeling of 70 years just isn't enough. Why are we like that if all this is just life creating life - have we "malfunctioned"? I also look at myth, legends and the holy writings of the different religions and it seems clear to me that whilst they differ they have huge similarities that speak to me a shared history... in the distant past supernatural events occured. (It's what Jung called Racial Memory.) I also see through history how we (humans) were once quite advanced and it's really only in the past two hundred years that we've surpassed the ancients, as if we had fallen from grace - a common theme of all religions and myths. Finally, as for criticisms that believing in God means you can't have fun.... do I look like I'm NOT having fun? Oh, wait, I forgot... I'm a City supporter. Atheism is the opposite to all religions, you cant just say its another religion. I would much rather place my bet on common sense and evidence, rather then twisted stories made to control people in earlier times or further a groups ideology.
Tielemans63 Posted 21 October 2011 Posted 21 October 2011 Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya. Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya. Oh lord kumbaya. Massive choon.
Len Finsbury Posted 21 October 2011 Posted 21 October 2011 I really have to question the judgement of anyone that believes in a god. The whole concept goes against all common logic. How the hopes of so many can be pinned on something that there is no evidence for is baffling and their defence of 'well that's what faith is' is as ridiculous. To read that they think the world is only 6 000 years old is laughable when we have physical evidence that suggests otherwise. I do however understand the morals of many of the stories in the bible and how they encourage people to live a 'christian' life. I sincerely do believe that they were never supposed to be taken literally though.
pSinatra Posted 21 October 2011 Posted 21 October 2011 If a fully grown adult with at least half intelligence told me they still believed in the tooth fairy, the bogeyman & Santa Claus.........I would seriously wonder if they were feeling alright. I can't help feeling the same when perfectly reasonable people talk of the existence of the father, the son & the holy spirit. I am open to the idea that there is a greater being that created the universe, but will need a better argument putting forward than any of the various religions available at this present time. If mankind is supposed to be 6 million years old........then Christianity is nothing more than a modern day phenomenon............and as such will disappear as soon as it appeared, to be replaced by an alternative thinking. I think of religion as a control method, rigid in it's approach & as corrupt as any organisation you care to mention. It's only in the event of overwhelming scientific evidence that they reluctantly accept that they may not be correct in their doctrine. Italian scientist Galileo condemned by the Catholic church for his heresy for suggesting??...........that the Earth went around the sun & that the Earth was not at the centre of the universe. The fool!! I'm open to suggestions, but they are gonna have to come up with something more believable than what is out there at the moment.
Rincewind Posted 21 October 2011 Posted 21 October 2011 Athiests have more abuse and predjudice hurled at them than any religious sect. The whole American Government are made up of Christions with one or two Jews maybe. Athiests are banned from certain activities. I read of one bloke who wanted to raise money for a cancer charity. He wanted to put a challenge out that his organization which was non-religious could raise as much in a year as others but the charity snubbed him. Never even got a thank you when he sent a huge amount that was collected.. Google Freethought Blogs for some revealing facts. Just one
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 21 October 2011 Posted 21 October 2011 Well, I am a 100% BELIEVER. However, I am not going to get involved in this, as it would probably lead to me blowing my top, and getting banned. enough said.
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