Corky Posted 11 November 2012 Share Posted 11 November 2012 Mr Taylor decided to follow Jon Moss in giving ridiculous penalties to a struggling Forest side. Pitiful officiating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitchandro Posted 11 November 2012 Share Posted 11 November 2012 Penalty decisions are a matter of opinion rather than a black and white call, you cant hand them over to a machine. However what is wrong with having a manager's challenge option? A manager could have one challenge each half for major game changing decisions like a penalty or a goal disallowed for offside. The 4th official could then review with a monitor. Why not have the same system as Tennis? Each team gets 3 challenges to referee's decisions. If the referee was right then you lose a challenge, if the referee was wrong the decision is overturned and you keep the challenge. So what if we had run out of challenges before the penalty? Wouldn't help us then yet the decision would still have been made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 11 November 2012 Share Posted 11 November 2012 So what if we had run out of challenges before the penalty? Wouldn't help us then yet the decision would still have been made. I suspect they'd only be used for serious suspect goals, penalty and sending off decisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADK Posted 11 November 2012 Share Posted 11 November 2012 Theres only 2 decisions we might have challenged, the penalty given against and the penalty not given for. According to FLS both incorrectly given against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleckneymike Posted 11 November 2012 Share Posted 11 November 2012 Whack a microphone on a ref and make them explain every caution and penalty decision over the PA. i.e. yellow card for number 7 for X or penalty awarded following handball/foul etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB11 Posted 11 November 2012 Share Posted 11 November 2012 Why not have the same system as Tennis? Each team gets 3 challenges to referee's decisions. If the referee was right then you lose a challenge, if the referee was wrong the decision is overturned and you keep the challenge. Who decides if the referee is right? It wouldn't work because it's not like tennis where they can use technology to see where the ball would have gone (LBW or not). It would only work for decisions where you need to know if the ball went over the line or not, because that is black and white. Nothing else in football is black and white. And for the record I think it was a penalty, he can't just tackle like that and go through the player before getting the ball. Look at these and opinions, on a Referee Forum as opposed to a Leicester City fans forum: http://refereeforum.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=48007132 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 11 November 2012 Share Posted 11 November 2012 Who decides if the referee is right? It wouldn't work because it's not like tennis where they can use technology to see where the ball would have gone (LBW or not). It would only work for decisions where you need to know if the ball went over the line or not, because that is black and white. Nothing else in football is black and white. And for the record I think it was a penalty, he can't just tackle like that and go through the player before getting the ball. Look at these and opinions, on a Referee Forum as opposed to a Leicester City fans forum: http://refereeforum....wtopic=48007132 I didn't know LBW was a tennis term, what's it stand for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Fox Posted 11 November 2012 Share Posted 11 November 2012 Referees know sweet f**k all end off, I am not professing I do but the game has become to sissified for my liking if you go for a tackle and win the ball lo and behold you get a yellow or red it makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitchandro Posted 11 November 2012 Share Posted 11 November 2012 Who decides if the referee is right? It wouldn't work because it's not like tennis where they can use technology to see where the ball would have gone (LBW or not). It would only work for decisions where you need to know if the ball went over the line or not, because that is black and white. Nothing else in football is black and white. And for the record I think it was a penalty, he can't just tackle like that and go through the player before getting the ball. Look at these and opinions, on a Referee Forum as opposed to a Leicester City fans forum: http://refereeforum....wtopic=48007132 I think that sums up just how incompetent most referees are. If you can watch it back that many times and still think it's a penalty (though I'm inclined to think you all just like sticking up for each other, I know you do) then you shouldn't be a referee, plain and simple. At least I agree with your first part, you can have all the video replays in the world but if you've got retards officiating, they're still going to make poor decisions like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB11 Posted 11 November 2012 Share Posted 11 November 2012 I think that sums up just how incompetent most referees are. If you can watch it back that many times and still think it's a penalty (though I'm inclined to think you all just like sticking up for each other, I know you do) then you shouldn't be a referee, plain and simple. At least I agree with your first part, you can have all the video replays in the world but if you've got retards officiating, they're still going to make poor decisions like that. Read other threads on that forum and you will see, in those incidents, people don't just stick up for the referee. They try to understand how he may have come to his decision, so as to not find themselves in the same situation in the future thus repeating a similar error. With regards to the handball, yeah, I think it was handball but what would NP making a 'challenge' have affected? Who decides if it was deliberate handball, the referee goes over to have a look? The 4th official? Because I know if I was refereeing, I'd turned down a penalty claim and then the 4th official tells me we're having a penalty I'd feel so undermined I'd be thinking well you know what you go and referee the rest of it because I don't want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 11 November 2012 Share Posted 11 November 2012 Read other threads on that forum and you will see, in those incidents, people don't just stick up for the referee. They try to understand how he may have come to his decision, so as to not find themselves in the same situation in the future thus repeating a similar error. With regards to the handball, yeah, I think it was handball but what would NP making a 'challenge' have affected? Who decides if it was deliberate handball, the referee goes over to have a look? The 4th official? Because I know if I was refereeing, I'd turned down a penalty claim and then the 4th official tells me we're having a penalty I'd feel so undermined I'd be thinking well you know what you go and referee the rest of it because I don't want to. Y'see it's exactly this attitude that has everyone so fed up with refs. If you can't swallow your pride and admit to being wrong you shouldn't be in the job in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend_in_blue Posted 11 November 2012 Author Share Posted 11 November 2012 Unfortunately for us, I don't think the officiating is going to improve. So, the more I've thought about this today, the more I think the players have got to play in such a way as to minimise the risk of the referee cocking up on an incident. By this I mean don't give the referee a chance to give a crazy decision in the first place. Yesterday had Whitbread stayed on his feet it wouldn't have happened. I'm not blaming him at all, but in my mind the players have got to react to certain situations in a more clever manner to minimise a potential refereeing cockup. It's not great thinking in this way, but what choice do they have as players? We need to play the referee with intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted 12 November 2012 Share Posted 12 November 2012 Who decides if the referee is right? It wouldn't work because it's not like tennis where they can use technology to see where the ball would have gone (LBW or not). It would only work for decisions where you need to know if the ball went over the line or not, because that is black and white. Nothing else in football is black and white. And for the record I think it was a penalty, he can't just tackle like that and go through the player before getting the ball. Look at these and opinions, on a Referee Forum as opposed to a Leicester City fans forum: http://refereeforum.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=48007132 Other refs backing Taylor? Shock!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend_in_blue Posted 17 November 2012 Author Share Posted 17 November 2012 Keith Stroud. Brilliant. Here we go again...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acooling08 Posted 17 November 2012 Share Posted 17 November 2012 Referee's saying 'winning the ball is irelevant'. Absolute joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitchandro Posted 17 November 2012 Share Posted 17 November 2012 Keith Stroud. Brilliant. Here we go again...! Wash your mouth out son! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Haydos Posted 17 November 2012 Share Posted 17 November 2012 Referee's saying 'winning the ball is irelevant'. Absolute joke. Why? Explain why. A dangerous tackle is a dangerous tackle. Ergo, winning the ball is irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend_in_blue Posted 17 November 2012 Author Share Posted 17 November 2012 Wash your mouth out son! Isn't it odd that we win a game 6-0 in which the referee was completely "anonymous"? Strange that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acooling08 Posted 17 November 2012 Share Posted 17 November 2012 Why? Explain why. A dangerous tackle is a dangerous tackle. Ergo, winning the ball is irrelevant. How was Whitbread's tackle dangerous? The founders of professional football are turning in their graves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ttfn Posted 17 November 2012 Share Posted 17 November 2012 I thought Lloyd went down very easily (dived?) for the penalty. Certainly looked a soft one to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Fatboyslow_ Posted 17 November 2012 Share Posted 17 November 2012 I thought Lloyd went down very easily (dived?) for the penalty. Certainly looked a soft one to me. Here we go again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 17 November 2012 Share Posted 17 November 2012 Looked a penalty to me. No complaints if that goes against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 17 November 2012 Share Posted 17 November 2012 Do people maybe NOW think these things even themselves up over the course of a season? Cos they do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 17 November 2012 Share Posted 17 November 2012 Looked a penalty to me. No complaints if that goes against us. I bet there would from some on here. For the record I think it was a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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