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Pearson on the edge? Definitely if the owners are fans.

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OK, you've all convinced me. Pearson is a genius who knows exactly what he is doing and we should all be very happy to support his team, and grateful that we achieved one point against Barnsley and Millwall. Silly me.

Glad you see the bigger picture. :thumbup:

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OK, you've all convinced me. Pearson is a genius who knows exactly what he is doing and we should all be very happy to support his team, and grateful that we achieved one point against Barnsley and Millwall. Silly me.

Cardiff lost to Peterborough at home, should their fans suddenly feel like their season is over?

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BUT, Pearson is either just stubborn or totally inept tactically. The majority of supporters know we are not strong enough in midfield playing 4-4-2 with Dyer, Knockaert, King and Drinkwarter.

I spoke to Raj the newsagent today. "too weak in the midfield", he said to me. My mate texted me before kick off on Saturday, "the ****'* got selection wrong again". I knew what he meant, I knew we would not beat Millwall. We talk about it every week. Every Leicester fan seems to know we either need a central midfield player with some strength and bite and downright physicality or we need to play a 4-2-3-1 formation. We all know it, deep down we all know and understand this concept, regardless of which players we like or dislike, we know it is true.

It's an absolute phallacy that you need to be 'strong' to beat teams like Millwall. I said something about this in the pre match thread - if you're boxing with someone who's got about two feet and two stone on you, you don't try and match them punch for punch, you duck and weave, you tire them out, you open them up and when you DO open them up, you make your chances count. We haven't got the personnel to 'outmuscle' teams like Millwall, but what we do have is a far more talented and technically proficient team - what we should do is play to OUR strengths, not to theirs.

We didn't lose on Saturday because Millwall 'outmuscled' us or because they were 'too strong' for us - we lost because they were extremely well organised and we just didn't turn up. If we had passed the ball and kept posession like we know we can, it wouldn't have mattered how strong Millwall were - they wouldn't have gotten anywhere near the ball. We've done this against 'strong' midfields before - Blackburn was the prime example; everyone thought King and Drinkwater would struggle against Etuhu and Murphy, but what happened? Blackburn didn't get a sniff of the ball all game.

The problem we have away from home begins before the match even starts - we let ourselves get intimidated, we start slowly, we give the opposition too much respect. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the tactics that we're currently employing and our position in the league reflects that - our away form is attrocious and it has more to do with our mentality rather than the personnel in the side and the way we set up.

The fact that so many people seem to think that Neil Danns would have given us a far better chance of winning against Millwall shows how little some football fans know. He's got a bit of energy about him, I'll give him that, but his passing, his ball retention and his tackling are sorely lacking. The last thing you need against a well organised team like Millwall is some lumbering buffoon giving away free kicks and posession for 90 minutes.

There's no intrinsic problem with the way we play, whatever some of you want to think, the problems come when we don't play well enough and on Saturday we didn't. Millwall were well-organised, they played well and they deserved their win.

EDIT: For all those calling for Futacs; why on earth would we play a player who is poor in the air, has little physical presence and in a team which isn't equipped at all to play direct football? As soon as he came on it was long balls up to him, and what did it produce? Nothing. Millwall are not going to be beaten in the air by us.

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Well I gotta hand it to you Artur Askey!

You've excelled yourself this time..

lol lol

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OK, you've all convinced me. Pearson is a genius who knows exactly what he is doing and we should all be very happy to support his team, and grateful that we achieved one point against Barnsley and Millwall. Silly me.

Nobody, well certainly I'm not suggesting, Pearson is a genius. But it's just annoying that you critisize when;

. he has got rid of players on large contracts

. got bright young talent in

. made our team better than last season, they seem like they are together

. has us sitting 5th at the minute

We have progressed under him, and I don't understand why you can't see that. A point at home to Barnsley isn't good enough, I agree, but we can't win them all, especially when we pratically give the opposition the goals. Every team goes through a season a loses games they shouldn't:

. Manchester United 2-3 Blackburn is a great example of that.

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Beat Cardiff and results go our way and we go 3rd.

Beat Hull and results go our way we can go top two.

Hardly in a crisis..

Beat Cardiff and results go our way we'll be 5th. Boro/Hull on 41 were on 37.

However if we beat Cardiff and go to 40 then even if Palace win and take top we'd only be 5 points off top.

We need to really beat Cardiff and at least draw Hull. If so we are right back on track.

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Love the idea that we should be watching players in an unchanged team that played badly, because they have a good work ethic. Now I know why football fans go to matches, to see players with a good work ethic. Shit, I've been going for 45 years hoping to see good football, and my team winning. Times have changed!

Perhaps the management thought a team that has got us 5 points off automatic was worth giving another try, considering they hadn't really put in too many performances like the Barnsley game previously. I suppose that's probably an alien concept to some though. Especially considering the team is 7 places better off that this time last year.

Clearly we've made no progress, get rid.

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Someone needs to change the title, it's very misleading. Something like 'If the owners are delusional moronic fans' should do the trick.

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I don't understand some of the comments I've recently read. Not just by the op, and not just on Foxestalk... We have progressed under Nigel Pearson, and I believe he will take us forward.

Personally, I think he did get it wrong on Saturday. I posted on here that Futacs should start and King should not play. But Nigel is the type of manager to admit when he is wrong. You know what, there hasn't been a manager that hasn't ever made a mistake. We got beat by a team that have been playing well recently. The Den is a tough place to go, people go on about tough players like Michael Brown, but even Leeds lost there.

It actually is unreal how many of our fans look at the negatives. It's like you're waiting for a defeat so that you can pick at Pearson, and certain players in the squad. But I guess it is easier to be negative than positive. I'm not suggesting we have the perfect squad, there is room for improvement, I want us to sign a new left back for example... Most of us looked at the teams this season, the quality; Blackburn, Blackpool, Bolton, Nottingham Forest, Leeds, Huddersfield, Cardiff, Hull, Crystal Palace, Middlesbrough etc. We all knew it would be tough this season, but being 5th on December 17th, I would have taken that. And don't give me this "we're slipping down the league", it's that tight that one win and we're right back in it... Teams like Hull and Middlesbrough have lost a couple on the bounce, to teams like Peterborough and Bristol City (no disrespect, but look at their league positions), but the same fans on here still consider them as promotion favourites.

Speak louder and more frequently. Spot on.

People should look at the teams above us, look at their results, I guarantee I could look through Cardiff's results and think to myself at some of them... "could you imagine FT after that? Would be a crisis".

Our fans have become the most arrogant in this league bar absolutely none. Literally worse than Forest. Ever since King Power arrived expectations have shot up, of course they were bound to and so did mine, but once we did shit in 2011/12 my expectations went back downhill, it seems the majority of our fans just haven't.

Maybe if we did get up our support would improve because we wouldn't turn up everywhere thinking we're gonna wipe the floor with everyone, but knowing ours based on the last two seasons, I wouldn't be stunned.

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Some eloquence, with an obvious ability to keep debate off the site. Can you spell your name, I wonder.

I'm sick and tired of you negative twonks coming on here and spouting shit! So we lost to Millwall, some people don't seem to understand, they were unbeaten in 14 (YES 14) games before they lost to Ipswich!

January is coming up, we'll strengthen the midfield and possibly upfront as well!

We're still in the play offs and not far off the top 2 and please don't forget, WE'RE ONLY IN DECEMBER!

NOW **** OFF!

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I'd just like to see andy king dropped for one game and see if that makes a difference.

We'd certainly concede more, lets just chuck that out there.

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Beat Cardiff and results go our way and we go 3rd.

Beat Hull and results go our way we can go top two.

Hardly in a crisis..

2 pints of old spice and a few things go my way and I'm in bed with Kirsty Gallagher......

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OK, you've all convinced me. Pearson is a genius who knows exactly what he is doing and we should all be very happy to support his team, and grateful that we achieved one point against Barnsley and Millwall. Silly me.

:rolleyes:

Good day to you.

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It's just silly to give someone the **** off tablet for making their point and backing it up with an intelligent argument.

Do I think Pearson should go? No.

Do I think he's a stubborn old goat who cuts off his own nose to spite his face? At times yes probably.

If things stay as they are we are top 6 at best. If we want top 2 this team is a centre half, centre mid and striker short.

In short A SPINE of the team short.

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Agree completely. I'm not saying Pearson out at all because he's done a great job and were I'm a cracking position. But we must keep improving and learn to achieve promotion. Therefore we need more options (players and formations)... I would like to see us play 4 2 3 1 away from home and 442 at home. Pearson must be more flexible. That is his only downfall. Pearson WILL get it right. Believe!

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It's an absolute phallacy that you need to be 'strong' to beat teams like Millwall. I said something about this in the pre match thread - if you're boxing with someone who's got about two feet and two stone on you, you don't try and match them punch for punch, you duck and weave, you tire them out, you open them up and when you DO open them up, you make your chances count. We haven't got the personnel to 'outmuscle' teams like Millwall, but what we do have is a far more talented and technically proficient team - what we should do is play to OUR strengths, not to theirs.

We didn't lose on Saturday because Millwall 'outmuscled' us or because they were 'too strong' for us - we lost because they were extremely well organised and we just didn't turn up. If we had passed the ball and kept posession like we know we can, it wouldn't have mattered how strong Millwall were - they wouldn't have gotten anywhere near the ball. We've done this against 'strong' midfields before - Blackburn was the prime example; everyone thought King and Drinkwater would struggle against Etuhu and Murphy, but what happened? Blackburn didn't get a sniff of the ball all game.

The problem we have away from home begins before the match even starts - we let ourselves get intimidated, we start slowly, we give the opposition too much respect. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the tactics that we're currently employing and our position in the league reflects that - our away form is attrocious and it has more to do with our mentality rather than the personnel in the side and the way we set up.

The fact that so many people seem to think that Neil Danns would have given us a far better chance of winning against Millwall shows how little some football fans know. He's got a bit of energy about him, I'll give him that, but his passing, his ball retention and his tackling are sorely lacking. The last thing you need against a well organised team like Millwall is some lumbering buffoon giving away free kicks and posession for 90 minutes.

There's no intrinsic problem with the way we play, whatever some of you want to think, the problems come when we don't play well enough and on Saturday we didn't. Millwall were well-organised, they played well and they deserved their win.

EDIT: For all those calling for Futacs; why on earth would we play a player who is poor in the air, has little physical presence and in a team which isn't equipped at all to play direct football? As soon as he came on it was long balls up to him, and what did it produce? Nothing. Millwall are not going to be beaten in the air by us.

The reason I wanted Futacs in on Saturday is that he and Waggy are the only 2 strikers we have who can hold the ball up and obviously, Waggy was missing. Unfortunately, whenever he's in, the players seem to suffer from the same mental problem as a lot of fans. Big man = hoofball. Futacs is pretty good when it's played on the deck and all we need to do is keep playing exactly the same game to get the best out of him being in the team
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Maybe he cannot be flexible because we haven't got the options yet to do so the January transfer window is coming up soon, we need a defensive midfielder, an experienced striker at this level and another CB. As Mack alluded to the spine of the team isn't all their yet we have Morgan in defense but who in central midfield and attack? when we get those positions addressed I am quite confident we can push onwards and get that elusive automatic promotion slot.

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People seem to forget that Millwall lost just 1 in 15 games before facing us and are 1 place below us. Can't win every match, so stop your bloody moaning

Now go and figure out how Kenny Jacket has managed that with the squad and budget at his disposal.

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Now go and figure out how Kenny Jacket has managed that with the squad and budget at his disposal.

The same way Pearson did it with us a few years ago would be my guess.

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I am pleased with what Pearson is doing, in his two spells he has turned us into an average side, into a side capable of finishing top six. We are not mid-table, we are not in the relegation zone, and the team for the majority of this season has actually played well.

All managers get stuff wrong sometimes, and Pearson did just that at the weekend. I am more than happy with a flat 4-4-2 because for 11-12 games this season it has worked; however in some games he really needs to change it up a bit and go down a different route and see if it works.

Course some improvement is needed, but nobody should be worried, and nobody should want him sacked. He will get who he wants, and he will get them in to benefit the team, and make us stronger.

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