indierich06 Posted 17 December 2012 Posted 17 December 2012 Which just shows you dont need to be that good to get out of this league, just find a formula that works for you and use it whilst be able to adapt at times when the opposition counter act your strengths. You're talking like Millwall are some amazing side running away with the league, when in fact they're not even doing as good as us so far. They're not out of this league and I would bet that they won't be come the end of this season.
Adster Posted 17 December 2012 Posted 17 December 2012 Everyone's entitled to their own opinion and that but come on seriously? Pearson's the manager with the highest win % we have ever had (check the FT stats page if you don't believe me) and we're 5th. Not like autos is a rubber-stamped definite for us because it isn't, but as a fan i'm happy with the progress we're making and when we lose against stubborn teams such as Millwall and Leeds yes, the mistakes are putting players who lack strength against big strong defenders but what else can Pearson do? Knockeart and Dyer aren't weak but they're not up to playing well against stubborn players. We only have Marshall else available to play on the wing and he's no Big Wes either. So stop talking like we're in the bottom 3 and playing terrible every game because we're not, Pearson is 100% my man for the job. Absolutely agree with this. I seriously think people need to lay off. I'm sorry OP but you're an absolute moron, would you be happy to keep chopping and changing managers? Would you be happy if we kept on signing overrated, over-payed players with Sven? We all know that isn't the way to success. How would someone 'tactically inept' have us at 5th in table? Your original post makes no logical sense whatsoever, and is quite frankly utter trash. He's the manager, I'd love to see half of us do a better job.
accessory Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Managers and teams can be sussed out. See what happened to us under Peter Taylor as an example. Love how the pro-Pearson brigade are getting giddy at us being within a couple of points of such footballing giants as Hull and Middlesbrough.
5waller5 Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 It's just silly to give someone the **** off tablet for making their point and backing it up with an intelligent argument. Do I think Pearson should go? No. Do I think he's a stubborn old goat who cuts off his own nose to spite his face? At times yes probably. If things stay as they are we are top 6 at best. If we want top 2 this team is a centre half, centre mid and striker short. In short A SPINE of the team short. Spot on.
Mark_w Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Managers and teams can be sussed out. See what happened to us under Peter Taylor as an example. Love how the pro-Pearson brigade are getting giddy at us being within a couple of points of such footballing giants as Hull and Middlesbrough. When were you last happy with a Leicester manager then?
Mike the Metal Ed Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Managers and teams can be sussed out. See what happened to us under Peter Taylor as an example. Love how the pro-Pearson brigade are getting giddy at us being within a couple of points of such footballing giants as Hull and Middlesbrough. Selling Neil Lennon had nothing to do with it, then? Hull and Middlesbrough happen to be the teams near the top of the league, which is where I'd have thought, as an alleged Leicester fan, you'd like to be. Would you rather we were near the "footballing giants" of Leeds United, Ipswich Town and Preston North End?
Oxfordfox83 Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Love the idea that we should be watching players in an unchanged team that played badly, because they have a good work ethic. Now I know why football fans go to matches, to see players with a good work ethic. Shit, I've been going for 45 years hoping to see good football, and my team winning. Times have changed! Dude, if you've followed football for 45 years and you're still this bad at it...I mean...maybe it's time to admit defeat. Take up gardening, or watercolours.
Gubbins Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 "He's criticised Pearson! Burn the unbeliever!!!" :xmasdry: Incredible reaction to a reasonable post which essentially makes the valid point that our midfield looks increasingly weak in a 442 and that Pearson needs to change it. At no point does he sound like one of the mad people who rings up Radio Leicester. Constructive criticism should be what this forum is all about (and there is plenty of room for it with our current form of 12 points from 30) regardless of the fact we are fifth.
RyanLCFC18 Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Pearson on the edge! What a load of old cobblers! He's turned this team around!!! He's finally gotten rid (I hope) of Jermaine fookin Beckford and signed some good young players. However, I too listened to the moan-in this evening and found myself nodding at one of the journo's comments ..... That this team of young players needs a couple or three older heads in to bring them up further. I think he said a centre back, a midfielder and a striker, all of whom have experience of the division? HALLELUJAH! I've been saying this since pre-season. Great work so far Nige, but finish the job with an older head or two, cos we ain't far off. Arthursteppen Wolfe.. Go back under your rock son. Defenders Wes an WhitbreadMid king has experience firward Nuge
Oxfordfox83 Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 "He's criticised Pearson! Burn the unbeliever!!!" :xmasdry: Incredible reaction to a reasonable post which essentially makes the valid point that our midfield looks increasingly weak in a 442 and that Pearson needs to change it. At no point does he sound like one of the mad people who rings up Radio Leicester. Constructive criticism should be what this forum is all about (and there is plenty of room for it with our current form of 12 points from 30) regardless of the fact we are fifth. This is completely right. Apart from 'reasonable post', 'valid point' and 'constructive criticism'. In fact, this post is fine, if only it hadn't been describing the ravings of a knee jerk mentalist.
Mack Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 You're talking like Millwall are some amazing side running away with the league, when in fact they're not even doing as good as us so far. They're not out of this league and I would bet that they won't be come the end of this season. Yes you're right, but he has'nt half taken a rag tag bunch of cheap part has beens, part nearly men and part misfits and turned them into play off challengers. A Millwall fan said to me yesterday he was temped to phone up stringer after the game and suggest if Jacket was given the sort of cash the Foxes owners had spent in recent times Millwall would be challenging in the Premier League. Whilst that is wild speculation and over enthusiasm and fantasy he has a point in that for what we have spent so far we have underachieved.
flowwolf Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 It's an absolute phallacy that you need to be 'strong' to beat teams like Millwall. I said something about this in the pre match thread - if you're boxing with someone who's got about two feet and two stone on you, you don't try and match them punch for punch, you duck and weave, you tire them out, you open them up and when you DO open them up, you make your chances count. We haven't got the personnel to 'outmuscle' teams like Millwall, but what we do have is a far more talented and technically proficient team - what we should do is play to OUR strengths, not to theirs. We didn't lose on Saturday because Millwall 'outmuscled' us or because they were 'too strong' for us - we lost because they were extremely well organised and we just didn't turn up. If we had passed the ball and kept posession like we know we can, it wouldn't have mattered how strong Millwall were - they wouldn't have gotten anywhere near the ball. We've done this against 'strong' midfields before - Blackburn was the prime example; everyone thought King and Drinkwater would struggle against Etuhu and Murphy, but what happened? Blackburn didn't get a sniff of the ball all game. The problem we have away from home begins before the match even starts - we let ourselves get intimidated, we start slowly, we give the opposition too much respect. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the tactics that we're currently employing and our position in the league reflects that - our away form is attrocious and it has more to do with our mentality rather than the personnel in the side and the way we set up. The fact that so many people seem to think that Neil Danns would have given us a far better chance of winning against Millwall shows how little some football fans know. He's got a bit of energy about him, I'll give him that, but his passing, his ball retention and his tackling are sorely lacking. The last thing you need against a well organised team like Millwall is some lumbering buffoon giving away free kicks and posession for 90 minutes. There's no intrinsic problem with the way we play, whatever some of you want to think, the problems come when we don't play well enough and on Saturday we didn't. Millwall were well-organised, they played well and they deserved their win. EDIT: For all those calling for Futacs; why on earth would we play a player who is poor in the air, has little physical presence and in a team which isn't equipped at all to play direct football? As soon as he came on it was long balls up to him, and what did it produce? Nothing. Millwall are not going to be beaten in the air by us. Just a question if Futacs is a shit as you are saying what does that make Pearson for buying him ?
The People's Hero Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Errrrrrrrrrrrr I mentioned earlier people - MARK MCGHEE is now available.
indierich06 Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Just a question if Futacs is a shit as you are saying what does that make Pearson for buying him ? I think he was a shit signing, I make no bones about that. Obviously Pearson bought him to give us a bit of a plan B in some games, but I don't think he provides the physical presence that Pearson thought he would. All managers have and will sign shit players in their time though, it's not a science. Pearson has signed enough quality players to get away with the odd dud every now and then. For every Marco Futacs there's a Tom Cleverley, Wes Morgan and Ben Marshall. For every Robbie Nielson, there's a Danny Drinkwater, Anthony Knockaert and Ritchie de Laet. Alex Ferguson spent £20 million on Anderson and £28 million on Hargreaves. What does that make him? A bad manager? No.
Babylon Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Then again Mr Babylon sir, maybe the fact we have now picked up only 12 points from our last 10 games, (hardly play off form) might suggest that things are going ever so slightly pear shaped at the moment. Or perhaps we are just going through a spell of poor form, who knows. We have improved, the table over ALL games so far shows that. Lets not forget the same people now moaning about being 5th are the same ones who completely wrote off our chances pres season due to us getting rid of our better players and having a thin squad with average players. We are doing better than they believed we would, and yet... it's still not good enough. Are there things we need to improve, yes that's clear. But we are still in touch, with a few players adding in Jan we really shouldn't be far away come the end of the season.
The People's Hero Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Does anyone actually care anymore? Pearson saps enthusiasm and interest from all involved.
Babylon Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Just a question if Futacs is a shit as you are saying what does that make Pearson for buying him ? Hang on... I'm sure you are the one who said we should give Walsh the praise for the good players he signs and not Pearson. Surely that works both ways.
indierich06 Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Or perhaps we are just going through a spell of poor form, who knows. We have improved, the table over ALL games so far shows that. Lets not forget the same people now moaning about being 5th are the same ones who completely wrote off our chances pres season due to us getting rid of our better players and having a thin squad with average players. We are doing better than they believed we would, and yet... it's still not good enough. Are there things we need to improve, yes that's clear. But we are still in touch, with a few players adding in Jan we really shouldn't be far away come the end of the season. It really amazes me when people come out with stuff like 'if you take away our 5 game winning run, we wouldn't be doing that well' or 'in the last few games we've not shown playoff form, so playoffs are out of the window' - why can't people look at ALL our results so far this season and make a judgement on that? Would that be too simple?
Happy Fox Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Where we are the league is a true reflection it not a lie-meter- our form has been playoff form of late, from our early spell it was automatic form and we have dropped off which is disappointing in that regard. But we are 5th and still in with a shout of automatic promotion 5 points of second which is realistic to claw back, I am certain that NP has identified his targets who he wants in January to push us on to get that elusive second spot or even first, hopefully the Thais will back him with the money to do so, it is our best chance of going up in the best part of a decade.
Bugg Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 It really amazes me when people come out with stuff like 'if you take away our 5 game winning run, we wouldn't be doing that well' or 'in the last few games we've not shown playoff form, so playoffs are out of the window' - why can't people look at ALL our results so far this season and make a judgement on that? Would that be too simple? Reminds me of a couple of seasons ago "if you took yakubu's goals out, he'd be a shit striker"
Bayfox Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Reminds me of a couple of seasons ago "if you took yakubu's goals out, he'd be a Emile Heskey"
NewburyFox Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Managers and teams can be sussed out. See what happened to us under Peter Taylor as an example. Love how the pro-Pearson brigade are getting giddy at us being within a couple of points of such footballing giants as Hull and Middlesbrough. Middlesbrough's squad cost hell of a lot more to build than ours. McDonald, Emnes and Hoyte alone cost a reported £9.5m or so.
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