Babylon Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 You don't seem to have the nicest attitude yourself. Want to stand up? Here, I'll just issue you with a childish insult even though it's a perfectly acceptable venture you're engaging in. Well, first of all it was a joke. But seeing as you're getting all serious.... It's against the rules, read your ticket and thus not a perfectly acceptable venture. Secondly, something doesn't have to be against the law to make someone a selfish ignorant twonk for doing it. For instance, lets say I was a smoker. I could walk up to anyone in the street, stand next to them and start smoking letting all the smoke drift in their face. Would I be doing a "perfectly acceptable venture" well sure I'm breaking no law. But I'd be a selfish ignorant twonk for forcing someone else into a situation they don't like just for my own pleasure. Some people are capable of judging a situation, thinking about others and not just themselves. Others just do what the hell they like and sod anyone who doesn't like it as long as they are happy. Standing with like minded individuals and not impeding others, nah problemo. Standing up in front of a child or an old dear all game so they can't see, nah ok. But anyway, it was a joke... smile, laugh, spread the love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry - LCFC Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 Well, first of all it was a joke. But seeing as you're getting all serious.... It's against the rules, read your ticket and thus not a perfectly acceptable venture. Secondly, something doesn't have to be against the law to make someone a selfish ignorant twonk for doing it. For instance, lets say I was a smoker. I could walk up to anyone in the street, stand next to them and start smoking letting all the smoke drift in their face. Would I be doing a "perfectly acceptable venture" well sure I'm breaking no law. But I'd be a selfish ignorant twonk for forcing someone else into a situation they don't like just for my own pleasure. Some people are capable of judging a situation, thinking about others and not just themselves. Others just do what the hell they like and sod anyone who doesn't like it as long as they are happy. Standing with like minded individuals and not impeding others, nah problemo. Standing up in front of a child or an old dear all game so they can't see, nah ok. But anyway, it was a joke... smile, laugh, spread the love. Easy to say it was a joke now but given that you've got an argument to back it up I can't help but think you meant it, if only a little. It's well known by now that the done thing is to stand up at an away game. If you want to sit the onus is on you to put a little extra effort in and select your seats because you can't expect everyone else to change for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMicky Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 Easy to say it was a joke now but given that you've got an argument to back it up I can't help but think you meant it, if only a little. It's well known by now that the done thing is to stand up at an away game. If you want to sit the onus is on you to put a little extra effort in and select your seats because you can't expect everyone else to change for you. How does the 74 year old who has supported LCFC all his life go about that then? The TO won't give you an aisle or front row seat if they are all gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry - LCFC Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 How does the 74 year old who has supported LCFC all his life go about that then? The TO won't give you an aisle or front row seat if they are all gone. I'd have thought it would be possible to move seats if you ask politely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-man Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 How does the 74 year old who has supported LCFC all his life go about that then? The TO won't give you an aisle or front row seat if they are all gone. Stop being selfish and give his ticket to his tanked up grandson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 Easy to say it was a joke now but given that you've got an argument to back it up I can't help but think you meant it, if only a little. It's well known by now that the done thing is to stand up at an away game. If you want to sit the onus is on you to put a little extra effort in and select your seats because you can't expect everyone else to change for you. Sorry but that is bollocks and you sound like a right selfish twonk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry - LCFC Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 Sorry but that is bollocks and you sound like a right selfish twonk. In what way? My opinion is that the minority should try a little harder so they can get their preference. I'm trying to accommodate everyone here. I don't see how I could be accused of being selfish. If you disagree with my way of doing it the only other option would be to ask everyone else to sit and give up their preference. Now that would be selfish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMicky Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 In what way? My opinion is that the minority should try a little harder so they can get their preference. I'm trying to accommodate everyone here. I don't see how I could be accused of being selfish. If you disagree with my way of doing it the only other option would be to ask everyone else to sit and give up their preference. Now that would be selfish. So abiding by the law is now labelled as selfish?? I've heard it all now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry - LCFC Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 So abiding by the law is now labelled as selfish?? I've heard it all now. It's not illegal to stand at a football match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMicky Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 It's not illegal to stand at a football match. Apologies, the terms and conditions that you agree to when purchasing your ticket. Better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 Apologies, the terms and conditions that you agree to when purchasing your ticket. Better? i've just read my Palace ticket and it doesn't mention standing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMicky Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 i've just read my Palace ticket and it doesn't mention standing at all. Does it allude to the rules and regulations of the ground at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-man Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 As much as I enjoy reading these debates it's always going to go round and round in circles with the inevitable answer that safe standing is the only solution to appease all parties. Sadly as the government are insistent upon ruining it for everyone, me along with 80%+ other away fans are going to have to continue to be 'ignorant twonks' for the foreseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suffolk fox Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 It's not illegal to stand at a football match. Interesting debate this You are wrong though. If you look at most clubs ground rules every club has them I believe you will find one that states persistent standing will not be tolerated. There are a whole host of others. They are there so that when you get ejected for a very minor trivial matter, like standing, you will not have any grounds to appeal as you have broken a ground rule. Stewards will wait until you are on your own i.e. going for a pee on your own or going for a pie etc before they pounce and eject you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry - LCFC Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 Apologies, the terms and conditions that you agree to when purchasing your ticket. Better? Interesting debate this You are wrong though. If you look at most clubs ground rules every club has them I believe you will find one that states persistent standing will not be tolerated. There are a whole host of others. They are there so that when you get ejected for a very minor trivial matter, like standing, you will not have any grounds to appeal as you have broken a ground rule. Stewards will wait until you are on your own i.e. going for a pee on your own or going for a pie etc before they pounce and eject you. Officially that's the line they go with but they know it's not desirable to enforce the rule everywhere. Better to let some areas stand up so there isn't conflict between the two groups. Unofficially football clubs support standing in certain places as their actions show. It simply isn't a good idea to try to ban it outright. Again I want to highlight I'm not against people sitting down. I just think if you're in the minority you have to take a bit more responsibility if you want to sit. We see the reverse at home games every week - it's up to people to move to L or SK1 if they want to stand up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCFCCKEANO Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 Isnt it usually seated at the front, standing towards the back. Everyone accomodate eachother and ask for seats further down/higher up depending on preference. It isnt as if the old dears have trouble at any rate, i stood next to a couple at the last Palace away and i am 100% that they enjoyed the day, and there was no complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voll Blau Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 Just out of interest Big Micky, do you support the FSF's safe standing campaign? http://www.fsf.org.uk/campaigns/safe-standing/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lestajigs Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 Like I have said before, over 55s and under 18s and all females should be banned from away games!! Oh and those who refuse to stand to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonthefox Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 Like I have said before, over 55s and under 18s and all females should be banned from away games!! Oh and those who refuse to stand to Wrong. It's knobs like you, with an attitude like that who should be banned. Fookin grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burbo17J2 Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 Like I have said before, over 55s and under 18s and all females should be banned from away games!! Oh and those who refuse to stand to that's boll0cks, anyone who is prepared to support their team and spend the money to follow them can go on any away day they like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lestajigs Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 Wrong. It's knobs like you, with an attitude like that who should be banned. Fookin grow up. And let's make it everyone who's name is Jon banned to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevosevic Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 Our away ends are all standing now aren't they? They have been when I've been recently and have looked it on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevosevic Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 Whether its legal or not, everyone does it. What can they do with 1000s of people standing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 In what way? My opinion is that the minority should try a little harder so they can get their preference. I'm trying to accommodate everyone here. I don't see how I could be accused of being selfish. If you disagree with my way of doing it the only other option would be to ask everyone else to sit and give up their preference. Now that would be selfish. Brilliant. The minority... ie. those with a disadvantage should work harder to a accommodate the masses. Do you put this into action elsewhere? Sitting in the seats reserved for elderly or those with prams on the bus and make them go to the back of the bus so you aren't inconvenienced. Ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonthefox Posted 4 September 2014 Share Posted 4 September 2014 And let's make it everyone who's name is Jon banned to And anyone who can't spell Leicester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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