ktfox59 Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Get rid of Robinson he is complete waste of space. and he could cost us ore prem place. His tactics in this window are pathetic.Our squad is pitiful and short of quality.I believe the 1st team can compete if fit but their not.Every interview NP gives his states the importance of adding players and that message is not for the fans but for Robinson and the board. At last. A poster who sees where the real problems are lying. Its not about chucking money at everything, but also its knowing when to move on. Nige did that pretty quickly with Fanni, Frazier etc but this damn Cambiasso deal just keeps dragging on and on. And why. TR is working for Top not nige. Its clear the money men want EC and it appears nothing else will get done till EC makes his mind up. Nige is having to just get on with it and tbh is fast going to be the fall guy. Love to be wrong though.
Ric Flair Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 At last. A poster who sees where the real problems are lying. Its not about chucking money at everything, but also its knowing when to move on. Nige did that pretty quickly with Fanni, Frazier etc but this damn Cambiasso deal just keeps dragging on and on. And why. TR is working for Top not nige. Its clear the money men want EC and it appears nothing else will get done till EC makes his mind up. Nige is having to just get on with it and tbh is fast going to be the fall guy. Love to be wrong though. May I commend you on your rare ability of being able to stick your head up your own 'arris.
5waller5 Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Whilst there's still a few days left to sort what could be an impending disaster out (far too weak a squad) .... we were the first team promoted, we knew what we needed and have had 3 months to sort transfers out. The fact that we have a few days left and are now left with little choice but to pay more or get 3rd or 4th choice players suggests that we do have something wrong. My opinion ... we've learned the lessons from the Sven era but learnt them too well and gone too far the opposite way. We need to loosen those purse strings otherwise we'll be the richest relegated team.
Haydos Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Get rid of Robinson he is complete waste of space. and he could cost us ore prem place. His tactics in this window are pathetic.Our squad is pitiful and short of quality.I believe the 1st team can compete if fit but their not.Every interview NP gives his states the importance of adding players and that message is not for the fans but for Robinson and the board. Another post full of complete nonsense based on nothing.
5waller5 Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Another post full of complete nonsense based on nothing. Surely it's just like 99% of posts on here ... it's based on his opinion of what he sees and hears from the club and it's representatives. None of us know what's going on so we come to a forum to discuss our ideas of what might be and get the odd titbit of information. I just don't get the need for constantly attacking anyone chatting in a forum.... That's what it's for!!!
Haydos Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Surely it's just like 99% of posts on here ... it's based on his opinion of what he sees and hears from the club and it's representatives. None of us know what's going on so we come to a forum to discuss our ideas of what might be and get the odd titbit of information. I just don't get the need for constantly attacking anyone chatting in a forum.... That's what it's for!!! But it's just over the top rubbish. A lot of people actually do base their opinions on things. He's just decided that he wants to moan at someone else. I don't have any problem of the suggestion that it could be down to the DoF but the over the top assertion that it is by someone who genuinely has no idea is just embarrassing.
brookfox Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 It's fairly simple, with the transfer window it's a sellers (and players) market which favours clubs who are willing to throw financial caution to the wind. Rightly or wrongly, I'm guessing our owners, having had their hands burnt during the Sven era, aren't in the mood to do that. Added to that Pearson has stated that he wants to give the players who got us promotion a chance in the Prem which seems fair. Which leaves us looking for quality, cheap players willing to sit on the bench, of which there's not many about. I'd also guess he's keeping a bit back for January to give the squad a boost (similar to Hull last year with Jelavic and Long) when we lose players to the African Cup. You also get the impression that NP favours a tight knit smaller squad. It's just suffering from injuries to key players at the minute.
5waller5 Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 But it's just over the top rubbish. A lot of people actually do base their opinions on things. He's just decided that he wants to moan at someone else. I don't have any problem of the suggestion that it could be down to the DoF but the over the top assertion that it is by someone who genuinely has no idea is just embarrassing. Communication style ... I used to get wound up by this sort of thing .... took a break for a few months from FT and can now just let it float by and not bother me a jot!!
Haydos Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Communication style ... I used to get wound up by this sort of thing .... took a break for a few months from FT and can now just let it float by and not bother me a jot!! Haha, yeah, can you imagine him saying in real life what he posted? You'd think he was mad, I'd be all like "Steady on Dave, where's all this come from? You shouldn't bottle things up like that. Come on Dave, talk us through it."
ktfox59 Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 May I commend you on your rare ability of being able to stick your head up your own 'arris. . Thankyou
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Surely Pearson is aware that in the Premiership, decent signings will be at inflated cost? This has been going on for years, and it wont stop. To bring the right players, of the right quality, to this club, then we will HAVE to pay inflated prices to compete in the top league. It's a fact of football life. If we continue to lose out on quality, then I am afraid we are f----d. I feel that we have missed the boat, as the deadline is almost upon us, and we have only ourselves to blame.
Guest Posted 27 August 2014 Posted 27 August 2014 Surely Pearson is aware that in the Premiership, decent signings will be at inflated cost? This has been going on for years, and it wont stop. To bring the right players, of the right quality, to this club, then we will HAVE to pay inflated prices to compete in the top league. It's a fact of football life. If we continue to lose out on quality, then I am afraid we are f----d. I feel that we have missed the boat, as the deadline is almost upon us, and we have only ourselves to blame. I knew we'd awaken your cheery, light hearted side sometime in this transfer window
lgfualol Posted 28 August 2014 Posted 28 August 2014 My opinion of our scouting system has somewhat changed. I was telling people we'd get excellent unknown players early on, and the last thing Leicester will do is wait until the end of the transfer window. Guess my laid back attitude was similar to Nigel's. And now we are all panicking.
Finnegan Posted 28 August 2014 Posted 28 August 2014 My opinion of our scouting system has somewhat changed. I was telling people we'd get excellent unknown players early on, and the last thing Leicester will do is wait until the end of the transfer window. Guess my laid back attitude was similar to Nigel's. And now we are all panicking. We don't really know that though. Walsh could have turned up with a huge list of targets and the club may just not have been able to do business. Or maybe Pearson really doesn't want to expand the squad all that much. All we really know is that a few of our midfielders all got injured so we've chased a couple.
suffolk fox Posted 28 August 2014 Author Posted 28 August 2014 It's like the macarthur deal, discussions something like this? Errrrrrr how about one million up front now a years free entry for Dave and his family to Fusions restaurant, a free scarf, pie and pint, a free photo with Dave and his family with Filbert fox after six months and he has played ten games for us another million plus a free signed shirt? After he has made fifty appearances and we are still in the premiership? Big sigh here by Dof, we pay you the rest in monthly payments of half a mill a month towards the remainder? Errrrrrrr Do we have a deal Dave? Dave, Dave come back we only have four days to save our club? Dof, Can we ring Flash Gordan?
lgfualol Posted 28 August 2014 Posted 28 August 2014 We don't really know that though. Walsh could have turned up with a huge list of targets and the club may just not have been able to do business. Or maybe Pearson really doesn't want to expand the squad all that much. All we really know is that a few of our midfielders all got injured so we've chased a couple. That's true
jayfox26 Posted 28 August 2014 Posted 28 August 2014 I've said it many times in other threads and will say it again, there is absolutely no evidence to show that Terry Robinson, Nige, the owners or anyone at the club is to blame for our lack of transfers. We are not the only team to have struggled in this window, even united have struggled and have ended up paying massive fees for a few players and their squad isn't much better off for it. Palace and Burnley are 2 other clubs that have struggled. Nige clearly had list of targets and unfortunately for reasons not to do with the club, we havent been able to bring them in. Barry was never gonna come here and his wages were too high. Campbell wanted more money than we were prepared to give him ( that wasn't the club being tight, that was the club refusing to pay a player more than his ability warrants). Fanni clearly wasn't good enough or didn't have the right attitude. slimani has had issues with his club. deeney was massively overpriced. None of these can be blamed on the club or anyone in the club.
shiv Posted 28 August 2014 Posted 28 August 2014 I've said it many times in other threads and will say it again, there is absolutely no evidence to show that Terry Robinson, Nige, the owners or anyone at the club is to blame for our lack of transfers. We are not the only team to have struggled in this window, even united have struggled and have ended up paying massive fees for a few players and their squad isn't much better off for it. Palace and Burnley are 2 other clubs that have struggled. Nige clearly had list of targets and unfortunately for reasons not to do with the club, we havent been able to bring them in. Barry was never gonna come here and his wages were too high. Campbell wanted more money than we were prepared to give him ( that wasn't the club being tight, that was the club refusing to pay a player more than his ability warrants). Fanni clearly wasn't good enough or didn't have the right attitude. slimani has had issues with his club. deeney was massively overpriced. None of these can be blamed on the club or anyone in the club. Fair point. There are also players going on the cheap though. Pilkington and Richardson were sold for less than £2M combined. I know they're not world beaters but both have Premier League experience and play in positions we could do with cover in.
Bagworthblue Posted 28 August 2014 Posted 28 August 2014 There is no issue with the policy but people think these things just happen overnight. A club must be willing to sell, a player must be willing to move and the buying club must be willing and able to meet the requirements of both the existing club and player. In the middle of this agents are doing their job to secure the best deal possible and have no allegiance to the selling or buying clubs and they are often muddying the waters It has become clear we wanted to and we tried to do business early. LCFC had a number of targets. Many probably fell through as Pearson has stated. a reserve keeper - Hamer a winger - Albrighton 2 strikers - Ulloa + ?** ( I am guessing this will turn out to be N'Doye as it's on Sky's list for LCFC but see below ) an experienced Centre half - Upson A right back - Fanni fell through / other rumours circulating - I am guessing others fell through also as Pearson alluded to a CM - the Cambiasso deal has been ongoing since early summer (per Pearson) but imagine it was hoped he would have signed weeks ago and he hasn't simply due to unexpected issues beyond LCFC control. So what hasn't helped The owners banding about £180m whether taken in or out of context, this gave an impression to selling clubs to hold out for more money. Pearson has tried hard to make it clear this is not the case but LCFC are now working in a market with inflated prices as a result. We are odds on for relegation - It is a risk joining LCFC if you are an established Prem player **The McCormack deal inflated prices for championship strikers as I suggest we were targeting Deeney initially. ( I do not know this) buying a player is like buying a house. There is often a chain and selling clubs like to acquire replacements before agreeing to let players go. When players start talks they get a shock that we don't have the warchest to pay them the salary they expected from reading the papers 21st century contracts are complex. Often it is not as simple as salary and term but numerous additional clauses which place the emphasis of risk either on the player or the club. A high risk strategy lands you in administration these days if things go wrong so we will be looking to share the risk with the players. Players agents will be fighting these clauses moreso than the baseline salary and term As a result of the above, having to deal late in the window is also inflating prices Add to this, injuries to Upson, DD and Matty James. Pearson has now had to look at an additional CM in addition to Cambiasso late in the window which was not pre-planned. If we are so poor compared to other teams, why is it most clubs are still trying to get signings in late in the window. Did they all decide to sit and wait until the last week too?
MC Prussian Posted 28 August 2014 Posted 28 August 2014 Try to look at it from a slightly different angle: I can but assume that a large part of our potential transfer targets are on contracts running to the summer of 2015 at least. Robinson and Pearson don't strike me as the kind of people who'd rather chase after free transfers for the sake of it. Hence we're unlikely to throw around silly money now in order to buy players out of their current obligations, which can be very pricey - the situation in July next year could look a lot more interesting (provided we can maintain our stay in the top flight).
Number 6 Posted 28 August 2014 Posted 28 August 2014 Think the actual state of the market has caused many teams an issue, not just us. Trust in the guy who assembled this team, he knows what's needed. Staggered that some would want us to just throw money about now for the sake of it. Spoilt children.
Bettsj2 Posted 28 August 2014 Posted 28 August 2014 Players prices, wage demands etc etc are not the problem in my opinion. It appears that this window will be a learning curve for TR and NP. More so than the Championship, there are clearly agents, opposition managers, opposition chairman and players themselves that appear to do a lot of ****ing around in order to get a better deal. I think the days of agreeing a price and arranging the fine detail in a couple of days are sadly gone and even if a deal is agreed, until the ink is dry, we have to beware of other parties pissing about constantly. We're going for a different class of player now so they are bound to have a different breed of representation. Cambiasso is a good example of outside influences dominating the proceedings. If we want the player, we have to be prepared to enter into the cloak and dagger bullshit. NP's stance is admirable and completely correct, however it seems that doing the wright thing is no longer the wright thing to do.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 28 August 2014 Posted 28 August 2014 Monday will be a hive of activity, and could turn out to be very interesting from our point of view. Assuming Cambiaso and MacArthur have been signed prior to it, then I reckon a couple of surprises may be in the offing.
5waller5 Posted 28 August 2014 Posted 28 August 2014 I've said it many times in other threads and will say it again, there is absolutely no evidence to show that Terry Robinson, Nige, the owners or anyone at the club is to blame for our lack of transfers. We are not the only team to have struggled in this window, even united have struggled and have ended up paying massive fees for a few players and their squad isn't much better off for it. Palace and Burnley are 2 other clubs that have struggled. Nige clearly had list of targets and unfortunately for reasons not to do with the club, we havent been able to bring them in. Barry was never gonna come here and his wages were too high. Campbell wanted more money than we were prepared to give him ( that wasn't the club being tight, that was the club refusing to pay a player more than his ability warrants). Fanni clearly wasn't good enough or didn't have the right attitude. slimani has had issues with his club. deeney was massively overpriced. None of these can be blamed on the club or anyone in the club. If we only had 5 transfer targets then we need to ask some serious questions!!!!
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