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Leicester City v Manchester United post match thread 5 - 3

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Steven

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Tommy87 anyone on here? Fair comment I think. :D

 

http://discussion.theguardian.com/comment-permalink/41252751

 

 

 

Some of the comments are almost beyond words. The delusions that have infected the United fan base after 20 years of unparalleled success will take some time to shift.

It's always someone else's fault isn't it? First it was Moyes. He got treated disgracefully by the club, gets sacked by media and then his replacement given £100s of millions to spend in a supermarket sweep trolley dash, culminating in a 4-0 win over QPR and United returning to their rightful place as champions elect.

But what's this? Nasty Leicester beat the champions elect? Must be somebody's fault, but whose? Nigel Pearson's (and we'll get on to that later)? No, can't be giving credit to a British manager, they don't get fancy-dan things like tactics. The team for completely melting in the second half? No, because it's full of world class players who trounced QPR last week. LvG's? No, because he invented tactics, it can't be him.

So who?

 

Ah yes, Mark Clattenburg. So, let's look at the "contentious" issues here (and matters 1 and 4 I actually can't believe I am having to explain):

1) Leicester's first goal. The whole of the ball is not over the whole of the line. It is not even that close. Somebody above said it must have been because three United players put their hands up. I've seen players hoof the ball out of play for throw ins and three of their team mates claim for it, it's a nonsense argument which takes away from the fact that it was brilliant play from Vardy.

2) The first penalty. This should not have been given as a penalty, I'm in complete agreement. It should have been a foul for Vardy's challenge on Rafael and that was a refereeing error. Rafael then gets up, stupidly runs into Vardy (who had the temerity to USE HIS BODY TO SHIELD THE BALL - THE SWINE!) and concedes a penalty. One bad refereeing call compounded by Rafael's idiocy.

3) De Laet - rightly booked. Then committed a couple of other couple of other fouls which fell into seen them given territory. Maybe lucky, maybe not.

4) This "foul" on Blackett in the build up to the 5th goal. Fvck me is this what we've come to? There's barely a touch, it is what is known by anybody with half an experience of watching or playing football as the attacker using his body well. Rooney did the exact same thing at upton park last year for his wonder goal (actually it wasn't the same, Rooney's was far closer to a foul) before his wonder strike but nothing was heard on that from the United fans.

So maybe Clattenburg got one or two things wrong, but certainly not to the extent that is being talked about by some United fans. It smacks of Ovrebo Syndrome. Once one decision goes against you you start convincing yourself that every remotely debatable call is a clear conspiracy.

 

As for Pearson, he did outwit van Gaal by having the temerity - nay, THE CHEEK to man-mark Blind with Nugent. Blind went from completing over 100 passes against QPR to 42 against Leicester. United were stifled at source by Leicester, who struck well on the counter attack.

Pearson also had the common sense to, y'know, leave his best player on. Di Maria is ace.

gerrytaggart

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Now imagine that with Alan Young saying it. Youngy would have graced this day with such passion and such love for the club that non of us could have voiced it better. Just so sad he was not there on Radio Leicester to have done the commentary for this game. Because he deserved to have been commentating. ps he was right about Knockert.

You are entitled to your opinion Alan.

Nalis

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Got a lot of respect for the guy you quoted Steven, hope we are as humble in defeat as that guy is next time we get beat by a supposed smaller team...

Further thoughts on the match... I know its wasn't but it almost felt like Brazil v Germany in that 25 min spell, particularly as Schlupp was close to Number 6 towards the end. Still on cloud 9.

Carl the Llama

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Watching this back is incredible.  Listening the the commentators eulogise at every completed Man Yanited pass grated yesterday, but today it feels like a creamy golden shower all over my faceholes and I'm very much into that sort of thing.

Kitchandro

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Now imagine that with Alan Young saying it. Youngy would have graced this day with such passion and such love for the club that non of us could have voiced it better. Just so sad he was not there on Radio Leicester to have done the commentary for this game. Because he deserved to have been commentating.  ps he was right about Knockert.

 

I really hope this is a joke.

 

If not you'll be right at home on his facebook page.

MC Prussian

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It's not just the fans who were at the King Power with memory loss syndrome - did that game really take place? Even at home, sat in front of the laptop, it felt so surreal seeing Leicester coming back from 3-1 down and scoring four straight goals in the space of only 21 minutes.

 

In some ways, you could say it's part of the retribution campaign we're running - at least that's the way I'm seeing it. Compensating for the dire past ten years and the financial turmoils we had to go through, the plethora of foreigners with fancy names who never really lived up to their alleged reputation and talent, relegation, the Mandaric reign, administration scenarios, etc.

 

Pearson himself has not directly said it, but he's alluded to his second stint as "making up" for past mistakes and for finishing a job properly, managing properly and building something longer-lasting.

 

I think this patience is now paying off and I'm delighted to see the progress we've made in the space of two years.

It takes sportive tragedies like Watford away in the playoffs or getting ousted by Cardiff at the same stage a few months earlier to appreciate what you've really got and learn from your mistakes, coming back stronger each year - both in terms of skill as well as from a psychological point of view. In that regard, Andy King must be a real source of inspiration, as he's seen it all.

 

Also, I've mentioned this a few times before, it's refreshing to notice a previously rather unknown English manager being so successful and getting all the plaudits, as well as an English manager putting so much faith in English players in his starting eleven week in, week out.

 

The most important part now after this beauty of a match against Manchester United is to keep everybody's head on level and prepare for our next opponent, Crystal Palace.

Each game is another test of faith and willpower - it's against teams like these we have to perform. Everything else is just the icing on the cake - and sometimes, just like yesterday against the Red Devils, that cake makes for a perfect end to a great meal.

Floridafox

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At first I was ticked by all the Man U fans blaming the loss on Clattenberg but it really just goes to show far they have fallen. Cos the difference between them and Chelsea right now is that Chelsea would have shrugged off the contentious penalty, got on with it and still won 4 or 5-2. Man U are beginning to resemble the post-1990-91 Liverpool, enduring the mediocrity of repeatedly finishing of 7th/8th and going through a conveyor belt of failed managers. Us, on the other hand, are well and truly on the up. COYB!

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Wow I am stilly absolutely buzzing, what a game, what a team, what an atmosphere!  :scarf:

 

I also see our glory hunting chav friends up and down the country are still filling their nappies because Vardy decided to party all over their god damn face!

Jace

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Defiantly time to give the King Power Stadium a new nickname, after Man Utds performance I think Theatre of Nightmares would be fitting 

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Still pinching myself.

 

Absolutely incredible day. Did that really happen?!

Thracian

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I think it was January 21, 1961 that we beat United 6-0, but this eclipsed even that and was probably the most exciting Leicester game I've ever seen against United and perhaps the best performance of all my 57 years of watching. Even at 3-1 though I never thought City were dead and buried. For all the excellence of United's early attacking we started so positively it was clear the United defence was liquid. I just  didn't imagine they end up looking like the aftermath of an enema.   :)

yorkie1999

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Quick question seeing as i was at the other end, i've read a lot of shit around the web today and one common thing was our first goal, did the ball go out of play for Vardy's cross to Ulloa?

Kitchandro

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Quick question seeing as i was at the other end, i've read a lot of shit around the web today and one common thing was our first goal, did the ball go out of play for Vardy's cross to Ulloa?

 

No.

 

You can tell anyone who thinks it was out that they are a cvnt.

 

Love, Kitch xx

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Quick question seeing as i was at the other end, i've read a lot of shit around the web today and one common thing was our first goal, did the ball go out of play for Vardy's cross to Ulloa?

No. It was close, but there's nothing conclusive. It's just that there are loads more Manchester United fans than Leicester fans and to a man they are bitter.

 

Brilliant, brilliant play from Vardy which is not getting the credit it deserves.

Kitchandro

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If it was actually over the line it would really look like it was over the line. Remember it's the whole of the ball, which means the majority of the ball would need to look very clearly over for it to actually be out.

 

As it happens, it looked close to the line. It was absolutely nowhere near actually being over the line.

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