Finnegan Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 ****ing hell. Is this still going? You've got one serious inferiority complex.
dsr-burnley Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 Seeing how Dyche's comments are still talked about 7 months on, it needn't surprise you that Pearson's comments last over a week.
foxfanazer Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 How many pages will this thread reach before Burnley are relegated?
Finnegan Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 Seeing how Dyche's comments are still talked about 7 months on, it needn't surprise you that Pearson's comments last over a week. You serious? If I go to a Burnley forum now am I actually, really going to find an active thread full of Leicester fans crying about market leaders?
MC Prussian Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 I'd put that sudden influx of Burnley fans down to one reason, and one reason only: Jealousy. They wish they had the attacking options we possess at the moment. (On the other hand, I'd love our defenders to be as reliable as Burnley's)
BlackburnClaret Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 I'd put that sudden influx of Burnley fans down to one reason, and one reason only: Jealousy. They wish they had the attacking options we possess at the moment. (On the other hand, I'd love our defenders to be as reliable as Burnley's) If it was jealousy I'd be on several other club's forums, not this one.
sylofox Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 If it was jealousy I'd be on several other club's forums, not this one. Why would you. You can not afford to spend what we do so would look stupid moaning on a chelsea man city forum. You should be able to match us but can't so you are jealous of us. Just one question. Where did the money go last time and where will it all go this time? Whatever happens to us we know where our money has gone.
Robin JD Popley Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 Just going to put this out there as most of us are probably thinking it.... WHY ARE WE STILL DISCUSSING A MATCH THAT ENDED TEN DAYS AGO IN A DRAW?! This has nothing on the sensational 3-3 draw against Arsenal in 1997 so why are we wasting our time worrying about Sean Dyche. Nigel certainly doesn't. We shouldn't!
AKCJ Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 Poor bloody Burnley. The world's against 'em ya know?
Robin JD Popley Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 Poor bloody Burnley. The world's against 'em ya know? Haha fair enough, but yes, my point stands...
Stadt Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 Sean Dyche will get away with taking Burnley down because "they've got a small budget" rather than he didn't spend what funds he did have very well, admittedly it's not much but it's not as if we've spent £10m more, is it? Surviving on a budget is possible you've just got to spend wisely, Dyche hasn't.
BlackburnClaret Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 Sean Dyche will get away with taking Burnley down because "they've got a small budget" rather than he didn't spend what funds he did have very well, admittedly it's not much but it's not as if we've spent £10m more, is it? Surviving on a budget is possible you've just got to spend wisely, Dyche hasn't. Way too early to tell yet, Wookie. We're only seven games in.
Corky Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 Way too early to tell yet, Wookie. We're only seven games in. He's right that Dyche will get no criticism if you go down. If he keeps you up I reckon he might be given Manager of the Year, similar to Pulis last year.
GuestAppearance Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 Just want to preface this by saying I have nothing against Leicester as a football club, city or set of fans (though reading this thread ran that close a couple of times). I'm a Burnley fan and given it's in the international break I was getting a little club football starved so stumbled over this board and thread with our last game in mind. A few points I'd like to make that seem to be being missed. Firstly regarding "many pound notes" & "better club on every level" I've seen it said a few times that Pearson was being disrespectful but was right, whereas Dyche was being disrespectful but was wrong. The basis for this seems to be that the two first team squads on that day cost similar amounts in transfer fees (which they didn't but let's ignore that for a second). There seems to be a real lack of understanding of player expenditure, with the majority ignoring player wages altogether. Your wage bill 2 seasons ago was just under £23 million, I understand you made moves to reduce this but it's not going to have been cut in half in a season and looking at your comings/goings in that time I'd argue it most likely wouldn't have dropped by a quarter either. We don't have our figures any more than we have yours but we were spending £15.4 million 2 seasons ago but made even more effort than yourselves to reduce this. Let's be generous and say we didn't decrease ours (% wise) by any more than you did and you'd still be spending over £6 million more than us on wages alone. I'd be willing to bet that when the accounts are published in March/April that your wage bill last season would have been one of the top 5 in the league* whereas we'll be somewhere in the middle and that yours outstripped ours by at least the £6 million I've estimated above. *QPR, Wigan, Leicester, Blackburn Rovers & Nottingham Forest I’d guess Expenditure is an absolute, being a "better club on every level" is subjective. I guess what I'm saying is if you're going to look at the validity of the statements (regardless of whether they were disrespectful or not) you can't say Pearson was right but Dyche was wrong. Secondly there’s a lot of messages along the line of "Burnley are going down because they couldn’t beat you at your worst". Irony is a concept that must be lost on some there because we had a left back and a winger playing in central midfield, we were missing both of our best strikers through injury and by the end of the game our top assist maker was stretchered off injured. If Leicester can’t beat Burnley then… The Burnley-are-shit-and-definitely-going-down attitude I’d expect from long time Premier League plastics but I honestly expected better from fans of a club that has only just returned to this level after a decade’s absence. I get it, to an extent, we had our share that got carried away 5 years ago when we were on (coincidentally) 9 points after 7 games, having beaten Manchester United, but I don’t remember seeing/hearing anyone slagging off our fellow promoted teams or writing anyone off as shit and definitely going to be relegated. Finally another irony problem in asking why Burnley fans are still whinging about it. You have to go back 5 pages on our Clarets Mad forum to find the topic about Pearson’s comment less than two weeks ago, 7 months on and Dyche’s “many pound notes” is still repeatedly mentioned here. Before you point out I’m commenting on it I’ve posted this response to the messages on this (and the “do they mean us?”) thread, I had no intention of posting until I’d read some of the nonsense being spouted. Do I think Burnley will survive? I hope so and I think with a fully fit squad we have as good a chance as you. It’s way too early to be halfway sure for either of us. I wish you the very best of it and hope you enjoy the season. At the end of the day even though you spent more money than us you more than deserved the title and were nowhere near QPR's extreme's of money-spunkery so I do hope you stay up (as long as it's not at our expense)
foxfanazer Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 Just want to preface this by saying I have nothing against Leicester as a football club, city or set of fans (though reading this thread ran that close a couple of times). I'm a Burnley fan and given it's in the international break I was getting a little club football starved so stumbled over this board and thread with our last game in mind. A few points I'd like to make that seem to be being missed. Firstly regarding "many pound notes" & "better club on every level" I've seen it said a few times that Pearson was being disrespectful but was right, whereas Dyche was being disrespectful but was wrong. The basis for this seems to be that the two first team squads on that day cost similar amounts in transfer fees (which they didn't but let's ignore that for a second). There seems to be a real lack of understanding of player expenditure, with the majority ignoring player wages altogether. Your wage bill 2 seasons ago was just under £23 million, I understand you made moves to reduce this but it's not going to have been cut in half in a season and looking at your comings/goings in that time I'd argue it most likely wouldn't have dropped by a quarter either. We don't have our figures any more than we have yours but we were spending £15.4 million 2 seasons ago but made even more effort than yourselves to reduce this. Let's be generous and say we didn't decrease ours (% wise) by any more than you did and you'd still be spending over £6 million more than us on wages alone. I'd be willing to bet that when the accounts are published in March/April that your wage bill last season would have been one of the top 5 in the league* whereas we'll be somewhere in the middle and that yours outstripped ours by at least the £6 million I've estimated above. *QPR, Wigan, Leicester, Blackburn Rovers & Nottingham Forest I’d guess Expenditure is an absolute, being a "better club on every level" is subjective. I guess what I'm saying is if you're going to look at the validity of the statements (regardless of whether they were disrespectful or not) you can't say Pearson was right but Dyche was wrong. Secondly there’s a lot of messages along the line of "Burnley are going down because they couldn’t beat you at your worst". Irony is a concept that must be lost on some there because we had a left back and a winger playing in central midfield, we were missing both of our best strikers through injury and by the end of the game our top assist maker was stretchered off injured. If Leicester can’t beat Burnley then… The Burnley-are-shit-and-definitely-going-down attitude I’d expect from long time Premier League plastics but I honestly expected better from fans of a club that has only just returned to this level after a decade’s absence. I get it, to an extent, we had our share that got carried away 5 years ago when we were on (coincidentally) 9 points after 7 games, having beaten Manchester United, but I don’t remember seeing/hearing anyone slagging off our fellow promoted teams or writing anyone off as shit and definitely going to be relegated. Finally another irony problem in asking why Burnley fans are still whinging about it. You have to go back 5 pages on our Clarets Mad forum to find the topic about Pearson’s comment less than two weeks ago, 7 months on and Dyche’s “many pound notes” is still repeatedly mentioned here. Before you point out I’m commenting on it I’ve posted this response to the messages on this (and the “do they mean us?”) thread, I had no intention of posting until I’d read some of the nonsense being spouted. Do I think Burnley will survive? I hope so and I think with a fully fit squad we have as good a chance as you. It’s way too early to be halfway sure for either of us. I wish you the very best of it and hope you enjoy the season. At the end of the day even though you spent more money than us you more than deserved the title and were nowhere near QPR's extreme's of money-spunkery so I do hope you stay up (as long as it's not at our expense) Welcome Your post raises some interesting points. I think both managers comments were ill advised and disrespectful. Can't really comment on Dyche but it was very unlike Pearson. I was very disappointed with the point against you a couple of weeks ago, we looked really casual amd lacked any sort of urgency, most unlike us as energy and work rate are our main weapon. For what it's worth I think Burnley will be relegated, not because I think you're shit but because I don't think you've invested sufficiently to avoid the drop. Time will tell whether we are one of the teams to join you. Dyche will have worked wonders if he keeps you up and will deserve the plaudits. All the best fpr the rest of the season
shade Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 Just want to preface this by saying I have nothing against Leicester as a football club, city or set of fans (though reading this thread ran that close a couple of times). I'm a Burnley fan and given it's in the international break I was getting a little club football starved so stumbled over this board and thread with our last game in mind. A few points I'd like to make that seem to be being missed. Firstly regarding "many pound notes" & "better club on every level" I've seen it said a few times that Pearson was being disrespectful but was right, whereas Dyche was being disrespectful but was wrong. The basis for this seems to be that the two first team squads on that day cost similar amounts in transfer fees (which they didn't but let's ignore that for a second). There seems to be a real lack of understanding of player expenditure, with the majority ignoring player wages altogether. Your wage bill 2 seasons ago was just under £23 million, I understand you made moves to reduce this but it's not going to have been cut in half in a season and looking at your comings/goings in that time I'd argue it most likely wouldn't have dropped by a quarter either. We don't have our figures any more than we have yours but we were spending £15.4 million 2 seasons ago but made even more effort than yourselves to reduce this. Let's be generous and say we didn't decrease ours (% wise) by any more than you did and you'd still be spending over £6 million more than us on wages alone. I'd be willing to bet that when the accounts are published in March/April that your wage bill last season would have been one of the top 5 in the league* whereas we'll be somewhere in the middle and that yours outstripped ours by at least the £6 million I've estimated above. *QPR, Wigan, Leicester, Blackburn Rovers & Nottingham Forest I’d guess Expenditure is an absolute, being a "better club on every level" is subjective. I guess what I'm saying is if you're going to look at the validity of the statements (regardless of whether they were disrespectful or not) you can't say Pearson was right but Dyche was wrong. Secondly there’s a lot of messages along the line of "Burnley are going down because they couldn’t beat you at your worst". Irony is a concept that must be lost on some there because we had a left back and a winger playing in central midfield, we were missing both of our best strikers through injury and by the end of the game our top assist maker was stretchered off injured. If Leicester can’t beat Burnley then… The Burnley-are-shit-and-definitely-going-down attitude I’d expect from long time Premier League plastics but I honestly expected better from fans of a club that has only just returned to this level after a decade’s absence. I get it, to an extent, we had our share that got carried away 5 years ago when we were on (coincidentally) 9 points after 7 games, having beaten Manchester United, but I don’t remember seeing/hearing anyone slagging off our fellow promoted teams or writing anyone off as shit and definitely going to be relegated. Finally another irony problem in asking why Burnley fans are still whinging about it. You have to go back 5 pages on our Clarets Mad forum to find the topic about Pearson’s comment less than two weeks ago, 7 months on and Dyche’s “many pound notes” is still repeatedly mentioned here. Before you point out I’m commenting on it I’ve posted this response to the messages on this (and the “do they mean us?”) thread, I had no intention of posting until I’d read some of the nonsense being spouted. Do I think Burnley will survive? I hope so and I think with a fully fit squad we have as good a chance as you. It’s way too early to be halfway sure for either of us. I wish you the very best of it and hope you enjoy the season. At the end of the day even though you spent more money than us you more than deserved the title and were nowhere near QPR's extreme's of money-spunkery so I do hope you stay up (as long as it's not at our expense) good post, right about most things apart from two points: you will finish in the bottom three. we will finish in the middle third.
MC Prussian Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 If it was jealousy I'd be on several other club's forums, not this one. Hence the emphasis on "our attacking options" in my previous post, which you willfully ignored. It's not the "many pound notes" part or Pearson's verbal retaliation that keeps you coming back on here, admit it. Everything at Leicester is better than at Burnley - infrastructure, squad, manager, fans, attendances... Even our forum p****s on yours. Deep down, you wish you were us. Poor, poor Burnley. (Now, can we have your defense, please?)
Guest Col city fan Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 Can't be bothered to read the whole of this nonsense. IMO Burnley will be relegated AND be bottom. The bookies are in complete agreement. And I would have no surprise if they are followed by QPR, who, at present, look an utter shambles.
Stadt Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 I think Burnley are more likely to stay up than QPR
Carl the Llama Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 I really hope Burnley do go down, but there is a caveat to that sentiment: If they junk Dyche and stay up I would be content.
The Doctor Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 I think Burnley are more likely to stay up than QPR At the moment, I'd agree, but on paper QPR have a team good enough to stay up, they've just got junk in the dugout - if they were to tip bagpuss in favour of a decent manager, they'd probably scrape clear of relegation - Burnleys problem meanwhile is they're shit - scrapping Dyche would do nothing to help that.
BlackburnClaret Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 At the moment, I'd agree, but on paper QPR have a team good enough to stay up... Embarrassingly poor.
The Doctor Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 Embarrassingly poor. Yeah, Rob Green, Rio Ferdinand, Mauricio Isla, Eduardo Vargas, Sandro, Adel Tarabt, Niko Kranjcar, Junior Hoilett, Stephen Caulker & Leroy Fer are all crap. Seriously, between suggesting Jones is as good as Drinkwater, that Cambiasso isn't by far and away better than Dean Marney and now this, I've got to ask - do you actually watch football or do you sit there for 90 minutes with your eyes closed?
BlackburnClaret Posted 14 October 2014 Posted 14 October 2014 Yeah, Rob Green, Rio Ferdinand, Mauricio Isla, Eduardo Vargas, Sandro, Adel Tarabt, Niko Kranjcar, Junior Hoilett, Stephen Caulker & Leroy Fer are all crap. Seriously, between suggesting Jones is as good as Drinkwater, that Cambiasso isn't by far and away better than Dean Marney and now this, I've got to ask - do you actually watch football or do you sit there for 90 minutes with your eyes closed? Sorry, the poor was a reference to your contribution, not QPR. The QPR that we finished 13 points clear of last season, by the way. And if you honestly think the addition of Ferdinand and the other mercenaries has made them stronger, then you are mental.
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