burnleyfan Posted 12 October 2014 Posted 12 October 2014 "We are better than Burnley in every position on the pitch" Where do you get that from? You may have looked far more impressive going forward than us, but in quite a few games your defence has looked a shambles. Against Man U. before you scored they walked through your defence at will. Against us, they didn't create one, yes one, clear goal scoring opportunity. Against Palace we should have won. Again, they didn't create one, yes one, clear goal scoring opportunity. They carved you open at will. Same with Sunderland. Only when we moved away from 4-4-2 against West Brom did we struggle. Never again will that be repeated. Over the season our defence, like last season will be head and shoulders ahead of yours. No doubt about that.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 12 October 2014 Posted 12 October 2014 Frigging hell, another one's turned up. That must be all of you now?
ScouseFox Posted 12 October 2014 Posted 12 October 2014 you should have thrown it on last week. i honestly don't know why we didn't. we could've played him as a midfield one and he'd have dominated your attempt at finding anyone in the whole of burnley to put in the middle haha. Against Palace we should have won. Again, they didn't create one, yes one, clear goal scoring opportunity. They carved you open at will. they scored twice from set pieces. Over the season our defence, like last season will be head and shoulders ahead of yours. No doubt about that. head and shoulders . wasn't it about 5 goals over 46 games?! as for this season i'd much rather concede 3 and score 5 than draw 0-0. just personal preference though i guess. i'm sure you're delighted with all your 0-0s and your position in the league.
Walker Posted 12 October 2014 Posted 12 October 2014 "We are better than Burnley in every position on the pitch" Where do you get that from? You may have looked far more impressive going forward than us, but in quite a few games your defence has looked a shambles. Against Man U. before you scored they walked through your defence at will. Against us, they didn't create one, yes one, clear goal scoring opportunity. Against Palace we should have won. Again, they didn't create one, yes one, clear goal scoring opportunity. They carved you open at will. Same with Sunderland. Only when we moved away from 4-4-2 against West Brom did we struggle. Never again will that be repeated. Over the season our defence, like last season will be head and shoulders ahead of yours. No doubt about that. That's because we go into every game wanting to compete and win games of football. In order to do this you need to take risks (push full backs up etc). Unfortunately, you only appear to be here to grind out a few draws here and there, defending the 18 yard box every game will more than likely always result in fewer goals conceded..
Corky Posted 12 October 2014 Posted 12 October 2014 head and shoulders . wasn't it about 5 goals over 46 games?! as for this season i'd much rather concede 3 and score 5 than draw 0-0. just personal preference though i guess. i'm sure you're delighted with all your 0-0s and your position in the league. It was 6 last season and 2 this season.
The Doctor Posted 12 October 2014 Posted 12 October 2014 "We are better than Burnley in every position on the pitch" Where do you get that from? You may have looked far more impressive going forward than us, but in quite a few games your defence has looked a shambles Everton, arsenal, stoke vs west brom, Sunderland and Swansea. I wonder why... We're better than you, get over it
Rob1742 Posted 12 October 2014 Posted 12 October 2014 Managers say things at times to suit their needs. I know of one situation with a manager that said something completely different to the players that he said to the media. They may also not want to give their genuine thoughts after a match as it could have a negative affect on the team. So although I listen to Pearsons comments, I think some can be taken with a pinch of salt.
shade Posted 12 October 2014 Posted 12 October 2014 who cares ultimately, a wolf doesn't lose sleep over the opinion of sheep.
Manwell Pablo Posted 12 October 2014 Posted 12 October 2014 "We are better than Burnley in every position on the pitch" Where do you get that from? You may have looked far more impressive going forward than us, but in quite a few games your defence has looked a shambles. Against Man U. before you scored they walked through your defence at will. Against us, they didn't create one, yes one, clear goal scoring opportunity. Against Palace we should have won. Again, they didn't create one, yes one, clear goal scoring opportunity. They carved you open at will. Same with Sunderland. Only when we moved away from 4-4-2 against West Brom did we struggle. Never again will that be repeated. Over the season our defence, like last season will be head and shoulders ahead of yours. No doubt about that. I guess it should do a job in the Championship the season after then.
Master Fox Posted 12 October 2014 Posted 12 October 2014 "We are better than Burnley in every position on the pitch" Where do you get that from? You may have looked far more impressive going forward than us, but in quite a few games your defence has looked a shambles. Against Man U. before you scored they walked through your defence at will. Against us, they didn't create one, yes one, clear goal scoring opportunity. Against Palace we should have won. Again, they didn't create one, yes one, clear goal scoring opportunity. They carved you open at will. Same with Sunderland. Only when we moved away from 4-4-2 against West Brom did we struggle. Never again will that be repeated. Over the season our defence, like last season will be head and shoulders ahead of yours. No doubt about that. Burnley
dsr-burnley Posted 12 October 2014 Posted 12 October 2014 only just got around to watching the Pearson interview. Good on him I say. He was perfectly entitled to retaliate after Dyche's slimy and bitter "many pound notes" nonsense last season, which was itself way more disrespectful than this, not least because what Pearson said was actually true, while what Dyche said was a load of ignorant crap. OK, I give up. I agree that Leicester do not pay any higher wages than Burnley. I agree that last year, Leicester did not pay any higher wages than Burnley. I agree that Leicester has no more supporters than Burnley, that Leicester has no more income than Burnley, that Leicester does not charge more for season tickets than Burnley, that Leicester has paid no more transfer fees than Burnley, and that Leicester's owners do not have any more money than Burnley, and have not put any more money into the club than Burnley. In fact, Leicester and Burnley are the same size club in every way. (Except trophies, of course.) This means that Sean Dyche was not correct to say Leicester have spent more than Burnley, and anyone who disagrees (including accountants and auditors) is plain wrong. And on behalf of Burnley FC, I apologise for all the angst that single remark has caused you in the 7 months since he said it.
Carl the Llama Posted 13 October 2014 Posted 13 October 2014 OK, I give up. I agree that Leicester do not pay any higher wages than Burnley. I agree that last year, Leicester did not pay any higher wages than Burnley. I agree that Leicester has no more supporters than Burnley, that Leicester has no more income than Burnley, that Leicester does not charge more for season tickets than Burnley, that Leicester has paid no more transfer fees than Burnley, and that Leicester's owners do not have any more money than Burnley, and have not put any more money into the club than Burnley. In fact, Leicester and Burnley are the same size club in every way. (Except trophies, of course.) This means that Sean Dyche was not correct to say Leicester have spent more than Burnley, and anyone who disagrees (including accountants and auditors) is plain wrong. And on behalf of Burnley FC, I apologise for all the angst that single remark has caused you in the 7 months since he said it. Erm... In response to the rest: Of course our owners are willing/able to put more into our club than yours, and of course a lot of money has been spent behind the scenes in comparison to yours, but Dyche's comment implied that Nigel had spent lots of money on players, which has been proved countless times already in this thread to be a rather ignorant appraisal the work he's done. Obviously he's just done it to big himself up and you have to say that worked out well for him. Did you notice when you guys won promotion how the prevailing rhetoric in his interviews was that it was a great achievement for him, the work of his players only being mentioned as an afterthought? That disturbed me more than his comments about us to be honest, but I certainly didn't spot any complaints from Burnley fans. You lot need to take a page out of the Geordies' book and start really questioning the man in charge of your club, not getting upset that our manager agrees with your manager about the quality of your club.
Dan Posted 13 October 2014 Posted 13 October 2014 Managers say things at times to suit their needs. I know of one situation with a manager that said something completely different to the players that he said to the media. They may also not want to give their genuine thoughts after a match as it could have a negative affect on the team. So although I listen to Pearsons comments, I think some can be taken with a pinch of salt. One situation? I assume that's the case more often than not.
MC Prussian Posted 13 October 2014 Posted 13 October 2014 "We are better than Burnley in every position on the pitch" Where do you get that from? You may have looked far more impressive going forward than us, but in quite a few games your defence has looked a shambles. Against Man U. before you scored they walked through your defence at will. Against us, they didn't create one, yes one, clear goal scoring opportunity. Against Palace we should have won. Again, they didn't create one, yes one, clear goal scoring opportunity. They carved you open at will. Same with Sunderland. Only when we moved away from 4-4-2 against West Brom did we struggle. Never again will that be repeated. Over the season our defence, like last season will be head and shoulders ahead of yours. No doubt about that. We've played more top sides than Burnley and conceded only two more goals in the process. We also should have won against you, so that balances out your performance against Palace. They did not "carve" us open at will, two dead balls decided a game that could've equally ended in a bore, scoreless draw. As for your West Brom game not repeating itself, that's wishful thinking. And even if your defense will be head and shoulders ahead of ours next May, you'll still be relegated.
BlackburnClaret Posted 13 October 2014 Posted 13 October 2014 We've played more top sides than Burnley and conceded only two more goals in the process. We also should have won against you"............ I'll tell you something, if that game had have gone on for another 10 minutes, there would have only been one winner. Should have won, I got lambasted on here when I said that after our games against Palace and Sunderland.
MC Prussian Posted 13 October 2014 Posted 13 October 2014 I'll tell you something, if that game had have gone on for another 10 minutes, there would have only been one winner. Should have won, I got lambasted on here when I said that after our games against Palace and Sunderland. At least that's one department where you're taking a 2-1 lead.
dsr-burnley Posted 13 October 2014 Posted 13 October 2014 ... not getting upset that our manager agrees with your manager about the quality of your club. Money. That's what Pearson was on about. He thinks Leicester are a better club because they're a big city club with a very rich owner, and have spent lots of money; Burnley is a town team and hasn't. Ultimately, we're proud that we're competing with the big cities like Leicester, in spite of not having your advantages of vast wealth and huge catchment area; you're proud that you're a big city club with pots of money. Be content.
chapero82 Posted 13 October 2014 Posted 13 October 2014 "We are better than Burnley in every position on the pitch" Where do you get that from? You may have looked far more impressive going forward than us, but in quite a few games your defence has looked a shambles. Against Man U. before you scored they walked through your defence at will. Against us, they didn't create one, yes one, clear goal scoring opportunity. Against Palace we should have won. Again, they didn't create one, yes one, clear goal scoring opportunity. They carved you open at will. Same with Sunderland. Only when we moved away from 4-4-2 against West Brom did we struggle. Never again will that be repeated. Over the season our defence, like last season will be head and shoulders ahead of yours. No doubt about that. It's ok having a great defence, we had nearly the best defence in the championship once, do you know where that got us? Relegated to league one
Soar Fox Posted 13 October 2014 Posted 13 October 2014 When were clubs not supposed to spend any money? Someone should tell Alex Ferguson that his achievements meant nothing as he spent many £££ notes.
David Guiza Posted 13 October 2014 Posted 13 October 2014 Burnley are just a recycled Blackpool under Hollohead, gain media praise for playing in a garbage tip stadium with no money. Ultimatley they'll be relegated and any players that shine throughout the season will move on, fair play on getting this far but the 'we're a small club with no money' line is boring. So were/are Wigan and they had not only sustained Premier League football, but also won an FA Cup.
Babylon Posted 13 October 2014 Posted 13 October 2014 OK, I give up. I agree that Leicester do not pay any higher wages than Burnley. I agree that last year, Leicester did not pay any higher wages than Burnley. I agree that Leicester has no more supporters than Burnley, that Leicester has no more income than Burnley, that Leicester does not charge more for season tickets than Burnley, that Leicester has paid no more transfer fees than Burnley, and that Leicester's owners do not have any more money than Burnley, and have not put any more money into the club than Burnley. In fact, Leicester and Burnley are the same size club in every way. (Except trophies, of course.) This means that Sean Dyche was not correct to say Leicester have spent more than Burnley, and anyone who disagrees (including accountants and auditors) is plain wrong. And on behalf of Burnley FC, I apologise for all the angst that single remark has caused you in the 7 months since he said it. Many pound notes... The teams that played at our place last season with a couple missing at the time added to the squads. What pissed people off is that Dyche and you lot don't seem capable of differentiating between Sven Leicester and Pearson Leicester, and the fact Dyche was trying to make out it was impossible for him to compete due to our team costing so much. 01 Schmeichel £1m 02 de Laet Booked £1m 03 Konchesky £1.2m 04 Drinkwater £1m 05 Morgan £1m 18 Moore Youth Team 24 Knockaert £700k 08 James 1m 09 Vardy £1m 35 Nugent Free 11 Dyer Free Substitutes07 Hammond Free 10 King Youth Team 15 Schlupp Youth Team 22 Taylor-Fletcher Free 23 Miquel Youth Loan 25 Logan Youth Team 27 Wasilewski Free If you add on to that Mahrez 400k and Wood £1.2m It's £9.5m. That's basically the squad we used last year. Burnley 01 Heaton FREE 02 Trippier 500k 06 Mee 500k 08 Marney 500k 04 Duff £30k 05 Shackell £1.2m 37 Arfield FREE 14 Jones FREE 09 Vokes £600 10 Ings £1m 19 Kightly Loan (has since cost £1.5m) Substitutes 03 Lafferty 200k 11 Stanislas £1.2 12 Cisak Free 15 Edgar £300k 22 Stock FREE 26 Treacy ??? 28 Long 300k Wallace £2m, Barnes £600k Total £8.93m
Raw Dykes Posted 13 October 2014 Posted 13 October 2014 I'll tell you something, if that game had have gone on for another 10 minutes, there would have only been one winner. You're certainly right about that. You're lucky there wasn't enough time for another one of our signature instant replies.
filbertway Posted 13 October 2014 Posted 13 October 2014 I don't know why we're only factoring in transfer fees here, pretty sure if we included wages as well we would be miles ahead. If not then fair play but I imagine our wage bill was considerably bigger than Burnley's. I'm not sure why there is so much hate for Burnley, I hate the smug attitude.
Babylon Posted 13 October 2014 Posted 13 October 2014 I don't know why we're only factoring in transfer fees here, pretty sure if we included wages as well we would be miles ahead. If not then fair play but I imagine our wage bill was considerably bigger than Burnley's. I'm not sure why there is so much hate for Burnley, I hate the smug attitude. Nobody is JUST including fees, but they are a part of it when comparing the two teams. Yes we'll no doubt we well ahead in terms of wages when the accounts are released.... but we will also be way ahead in terms of money coming into the club also. That could be anything from £6 to £12m ahead of what Burnley make. Burnley had staffing costs of £15m and lost £8m in their last accounts, they are hardly Paragons of Virtue themselves running a tight ship. They did very well to go up because they weren't fancied, but the "we did it on a show sting" stuff is well over played. Yes we have spent money over the last 5 years, but we all know what the club has done to put that right since Pearson returned and the accounts will no doubt look a lot better when they are released this year than they were. It's all very well looking at our accounts of previous years and stating x losses. But it's not really that easy as huge chunks included were the owners loan repayments that were just added to the debt. So about £14m worth of "losses" weren't actually losses as we never actually paid a penny due to all debts being written off. Then you have the changing of the squad value which equated for A £5m loss, again not actually a loss just paper shuffling. So £20m worth of "losses" the last two years weren't actually even losses, a penny never left the door.
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