eye666 Posted 18 February 2015 Share Posted 18 February 2015 The only time I was worried with Upson was when a ball went over the top and he was about 3 or 4 yards off the pace of the attacker. Other than that, having 2 CB's comfortable on the ball will see a massive improvement in our general overall play. Was is decent enough defensively but the man gives away possession so cheaply he ends up putting us under pressure immediately. I don't think it's a coincidence that we were playing some of our better football this season with 2 players that can play football at the back. Which was when we went 2 at the back and were pushing forward for an equaliser. Upson, huth and was as a 3 would make us more solid and allow us to play from the back better. No brainier in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayday Posted 18 February 2015 Share Posted 18 February 2015 Upson is a cart horse,not good enough for this level anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheLeagueFox Posted 18 February 2015 Share Posted 18 February 2015 Morgan and Konchesky are a real blind spot for Pearson. Hamer should never have been dropped. IMHO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitchandro Posted 18 February 2015 Share Posted 18 February 2015 The only time I was worried with Upson was when a ball went over the top and he was about 3 or 4 yards off the pace of the attacker. Other than that, having 2 CB's comfortable on the ball will see a massive improvement in our general overall play. Was is decent enough defensively but the man gives away possession so cheaply he ends up putting us under pressure immediately. I don't think it's a coincidence that we were playing some of our better football this season with 2 players that can play football at the back. Unless a large chunk of this post is sarcastic I'm not sure I know where to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4DD0gg Posted 18 February 2015 Share Posted 18 February 2015 Upson is a cart horse,not good enough for this level anymore. He is better than calamity based on his 1.5 performances that is for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 18 February 2015 Share Posted 18 February 2015 At a higher level pace in a centre back is less and less important, reading the game is the key ability. It's not Sunday League where teams just punt the ball in behind and get a fast striker to chase. Huth and Upson for me gives a balance of left/right foot, strong in the tackle and the air and can distribute the ball well. There's a lot folk won't notice about Upson what makes him a better defender than what we have. In aerial battles against Benteke, he was doing something which showed all his experience. He would get his body across him and underneath him. The likelyhood was that Benteke was going to win the header and you don't want to give away a foul. So by doing what he did, you make sure the header can't be powerful and its difficult to direct. Hence it largely nullified him. I'm yet to see all these carthorse attributes I was personally expecting. In fact, the one ball over the top he managed to get back and block the shot for a corner on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicesterisme Posted 18 February 2015 Share Posted 18 February 2015 Upson looked absolutely awful against Villa and came off injured against Arsenal. Why on earth would anyone want him in ahead of Wazza? I thought he looked pretty solid to be honest, certainly wasn't awful. I'd go with Huth and Wasyl as a pairing if we were going to start with just the 2 CB's though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
premier blues Posted 18 February 2015 Share Posted 18 February 2015 Upson looks like he's clinging onto fitness by a thread. Only aa matter of time before he's injured again and perhaps for the last time. Hugh looks a better prospect, but whichever way you look at it, that we're here with Schwarzer, Upson, Konch, Wasyl, Hugh, Morgan and Simpson makes a complete mockery out of any suggestion that Pearson is "building something" here. He's building something old and crap. Have we signed a new Centre Half called Hugh then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witch Posted 18 February 2015 Share Posted 18 February 2015 The only time I was worried with Upson was when a ball went over the top and he was about 3 or 4 yards off the pace of the attacker. Other than that, having 2 CB's comfortable on the ball will see a massive improvement in our general overall play. Was is decent enough defensively but the man gives away possession so cheaply he ends up putting us under pressure immediately. I don't think it's a coincidence that we were playing some of our better football this season with 2 players that can play football at the back. Wasyl is giving possesion away cheaply? Dude, are you sure you read these shirt numbers properly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 18 February 2015 Share Posted 18 February 2015 Morgan has been our worst player this season, yet he still plays, and captains the side. That on it's own demonstrates just how poor Pearson is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 18 February 2015 Share Posted 18 February 2015 I agree that pace isn't essential, at either centre half or at full back. What you need is good footballers, pace often just hides the fact that a player is actually quite a poor footballer for the standard that they're playing at (i.e. Schlupp and de Laet). Huth and Upson are more than experienced enough to make up for a lack of pace. It's not as if we play with an ultra high line I agree with that. How many goals we've conceded this season have been because of lack of pace? It's more down to silly mistakes rather than a lack of speed. Saying that, having more pace at the back does allow you to press a bit higher so we may be limiting ourselves without really realising it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 18 February 2015 Share Posted 18 February 2015 Upson looked absolutely awful against Villa and came off injured against Arsenal. Why on earth would anyone want him in ahead of Wazza? That's an overstatement if I've ever seen one. Didn't think he was any worse than the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzell Posted 18 February 2015 Share Posted 18 February 2015 Would prefer to see Wasyl and Huth personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 18 February 2015 Share Posted 18 February 2015 Upson looked absolutely awful against Villa and came off injured against Arsenal. Why on earth would anyone want him in ahead of Wazza? Upson wasn't awful, and certainly wasn't any worse than any other of our defenders. The only time I was worried was when the ball was played over the top because Upson lacks pace, but other than that he looked good on the ball and the most composed of our defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfox Posted 18 February 2015 Share Posted 18 February 2015 Bit worried about pace, especially if Simpson & Konch are the fullbacks complementing them. Was Huth Upson RDL ------------Schlupp ? Would stick to this for the time being. 3-5-2 with Mahrez coming into the centre of midfield in front of James & Hammond hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunbury Fox Posted 18 February 2015 Share Posted 18 February 2015 I think Upson can only play if we field 3 CBs. Too slow otherwise. A better team than Villa would have exploited that more. If we play 2 CBs it has to be Huth and Was for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAprice_ Posted 18 February 2015 Share Posted 18 February 2015 I really like the idea of Wasyl - Huth - Upson. It's very balanced with both Wasyl and Upson having a bit of full-back experience. For this to be most effective though we really need to consider playing De Laet ahead of Simpson and (maybe) Schlupp ahead of Konchesky. I say maybe because Konchesky is naturally quite an attacking minded fullback anyway (he started his career playing at left-mid back in the 1960s or whenever it was). I'd then go Matty James (second name on the team sheet atm!) and Cambiasso Then Mahrez just behind Kramaric (1st name on the team sheet!) and Nugent Off the ball it turns into a 5-4-1, maybe even 7-2-1, or Leicester's favourite 9-1 formation On the ball it's more like 3-4-2-1, real emphasis should be put on the wing-backs getting forward! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 18 February 2015 Share Posted 18 February 2015 I really like the idea of Wasyl - Huth - Upson. It's very balanced with both Wasyl and Upson having a bit of full-back experience. For this to be most effective though we really need to consider playing De Laet ahead of Simpson and (maybe) Schlupp ahead of Konchesky. I say maybe because Konchesky is naturally quite an attacking minded fullback anyway (he started his career playing at left-mid back in the 1960s or whenever it was). I'd then go Matty James (second name on the team sheet atm!) and Cambiasso Then Mahrez just behind Kramaric (1st name on the team sheet!) and Nugent Off the ball it turns into a 5-4-1, maybe even 7-2-1, or Leicester's favourite 9-1 formation On the ball it's more like 3-4-2-1, real emphasis should be put on the wing-backs getting forward! That would make him about 70 years old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 18 February 2015 Share Posted 18 February 2015 Wasyl and Huth, Individually I'd say Wasyl has probably been the best defender I've seen this season (including other teams), he is just a rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I blame Wellens Posted 18 February 2015 Share Posted 18 February 2015 Wasyl and Huth, Individually I'd say Wasyl has probably been the best defender I've seen this season (including other teams), he is just a rock. Agree but the sad thing is being our best defender this season has not been difficult to achieve. Don't know enough about other teams to comment on their defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 18 February 2015 Share Posted 18 February 2015 Agree but the sad thing is being our best defender this season has not been difficult to achieve. Don't know enough about other teams to comment on their defenders.my infatuation aside, I feel a bit sorry for him because he's barely done anything wrong but he's part of the worst defence in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 18 February 2015 Share Posted 18 February 2015 Wasyl and Huth for me, too, Upson to come in in a 3, maybe Upson an Huth will prove to be our best pairing, but Wasyl has been a rock this season, so wouldn't want him out the side and I think we should change Simpson for De Laet and changing 3 of the back 4 at once is probably too destabilising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 19 February 2015 Share Posted 19 February 2015 Huth and Wasyl with Upson on stand by for me. Morgan can go off and wrestle somewhere given his penchant for grappling and being on the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnup Posted 19 February 2015 Share Posted 19 February 2015 Huth and Wasyl with Upson on stand by for me. Morgan can go off and wrestle somewhere given his penchant for grappling and being on the floor. Wasyl being the less elbowy option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 19 February 2015 Share Posted 19 February 2015 Wasyl being the less elbowy option? Ha. The less calamitous option certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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