Sunderland away...... this is it!

[fuchsntf]

You have either been misinformed or talking absolute rubbish. Probably both.

I've lived in Sunderland for 26 years and I've never heard of Asda giving away tickets to Sunderland matches. But I'm sure you know better than me. I've been spending £400+ for a season ticket all these years when I could have got a match ticket every week with my weekly shop. No the wonder I'm broke!

Also, I'm not going to come on here and start comparing crowd sizes as that's too 'Newcastle' for me, but the way a lot of you are going on on here absolutely stinks of an inferiority complex.

Don't mind leicester, I quite like to see small clubs overachieve every now and again, but let's not get carried away here, your still Leicester City not Barcelona.

Anyway, good luck for the rest of the season and I hope you stay up, just not at our expense.

Also, if you could keep those tin-pot, plastic clappers at home this weekend that would be fantastic. They're tacky, absolutely embarrassing and have no place in the premier league or English football for that matter, Thanks.

The leicester are coming, then you will see us..... go like the clappers, hopefully with 3 points.

My friend any thought on levels of tackiness is relative....its helped with atmosphere, and helped to literally rock our stadium, if thats the reason we stay up, I'll take it.

Its a chicken or egg issue with soccer teams, was it the continual vocal support that changed our fortunes on the pitch, or was it the improved performances and results of the last 6-8 weeks that inspired the atmosphere.

Not to forget our Manu home game had the KP stadium rocking that the media were shitting themselves.

I dont like the fans around the PL bad mouthing each other, now..exchanging under the belt banter...well we are all Brits thats what we do.

Now back to the game,..you are in the situation of still fielding players, who have only had you involved consistently only in the bottom 8 of the PL and tradition of a big club not being upheld, relegation fear a consistent companion.

Releasing good steady managers, forgetting the saying, 'be carefull what you wish for'. Transfer money not well invested, then panic, and putting the name into the management seat and not the potential.

Have we been different, no not really...but we do seem now to have good club management (albeit foreign, but cleaning up club finances and organisation), not going out blowing millions.

Found potentially a strong manager, even though some wanted him away, for wrong reasons.Now with him, young 1st time Pl players slowly finding their topflight legs, and again some fans not really realising what we have slowly developed.

With help from older heads.....

We are the upsurpers, may turn out it will create some too arrogant over the top fans but we are on that magical run.

We are not small, but far from a big club, this base means more ever than not, the politics of the game just dont rule us.

We have had our moments of madness, believing big names mean something, we got it wrong, we learnt.!!

Big clubs who have lost that history and natural fear they brought with them, have not yet grown up, or consistently let their fans down, by being impatient.From Newcastle and Sunderland they have had good managers, but the club didnt back them with thought out plans for even their near future, they dropped the dishes as soon as a poor run, or form was laid

on their tracks.That has kept you in 'no mans land, mostly the nether regions of the PL, where top eight fights should be regular for your clubs, earning something has lost its meaning.

Only time will tell, if our foxes and management can forfill heady dreams, but you see, we dont EXPECT a so called right, our aims are not lower, no fan wants consistent relegation battles,but just a few years playing for 6-4, and/or just top ten, with a couple of finals, and longer cup runs.A nice long run in the top flight, to clock onto something like the modern Everton, or a Southampton If they can consolidate their PL position over a 10+year period.

If my club spends too long only surviving without imaginative management, no evolving either with same or new players, then we should go down, and give another inspiring club a chance.Painfull yes...earning the right is the only priority, in a game, in a period, in a season!!!!

[ceredigion]

But they did win the cup in 1973 and they're always the first to declare a result on election night.

[chris_lcfc_85]

Im delighted it'll be a full house. HUGE pressure on them with their last two fixtures after us so they badly need a win and the fans could be on their back early if it doesn't go their way

[joedawg]

You have either been misinformed or talking absolute rubbish. Probably both.

I've lived in Sunderland for 26 years and I've never heard of Asda giving away tickets to Sunderland matches. But I'm sure you know better than me. I've been spending £400+ for a season ticket all these years when I could have got a match ticket every week with my weekly shop. No the wonder I'm broke!

Also, I'm not going to come on here and start comparing crowd sizes as that's too 'Newcastle' for me, but the way a lot of you are going on on here absolutely stinks of an inferiority complex.

Don't mind leicester, I quite like to see small clubs overachieve every now and again, but let's not get carried away here, your still Leicester City not Barcelona.

Anyway, good luck for the rest of the season and I hope you stay up, just not at our expense.

Also, if you could keep those tin-pot, plastic clappers at home this weekend that would be fantastic. They're tacky, absolutely embarrassing and have no place in the premier league or English football for that matter, Thanks.

We're not all that bad, I always like to see a supporter from the other team post on here something that doesn't reek of bitterness and bitchiness, although I hate it when people reply to your post in the same manner, good luck for the season, will be a great game next week by two teams fighting for their lives and I personally can not wait, regarding the clappers, they do give an amazing atmosphere so although 'tacky', they really help

[Mark_from_USA]

If we beat Sunderland on Saturday and Hull lose/draw at Tottenham, or Newcastle lose at QPR, then we will be mathematically safe.

 

If we draw against Sunderland on Saturday and Hull lose at Tottenham then we will be mathematically safe.

 

But those are the only combinations of results which will guarantee safety this weekend. My guess is that we will go into the QPR game still with a chance of going down. I can see both Hull and Newcastle winning at the weekend.

 

At the moment 41 points is the cut so we need a win and a draw from our last 2 games as things now stand.

 

There are several other ways that only extremely unlikely goal difference swings would see us down.  As posted on another thread:

 

Assumption: Our goal difference cannot be overcome except possibly by Hull.

 

If City wins 1 match, all of these need to happen for us to go down:

• Hull need to win 2 times and overcome City's goal difference
• Newcastle needs to win 2 times
• Sunderland needs 2 wins or 1 win and 2 draws.
• Aston Villa would need 1 win

If City draws 1 match, all of these need to happen for us to go down:

• Hull needs to win their remaining 2 matches or win 1 and draw 1 and overcome City's goal difference
• Newcastle would need to win at least once
• Sunderland would need 1 win or 3 draws
• Aston Villa would need at least 1 draw

If City draws 2 matches, all of these need to happen for us to go down:

• Hull needs to win 2 times
• Newcastle would need to win 1 and draw 1
• Sunderand would need 1 win or 2 draws apart from their draw against Leicester
• Aston Villa would need 1 win or 2 draws

If City draws gets no further points, all of these still need to happen for us to go down:

• Hull need to win 1 game and draw one game or overcome City's goal difference
• Newcastle and Sunderland need 1 win or 2 draws

[Gerard]

From the Sunderland forum: 

 

My sons school received 50 free tickets last week, the headmaster was handing them out to patents in the school yard on Fri. Can't be the only school.

Why would we give Leicester any sort of advantage by giving them a bigger away following.

Read more: http://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/sunderland-v-leicester-city-ticket-sales.1075962/page-2#ixzz3ZrnJg82e

 

Considering they're such a massive club they still can't fill the ground for the biggest match of the season.

 

Free tickets with shopping at ASDA

Bring a friend for a tenner

And now giving thousands away to schools

And still there's tickets left   

 

What a bunch of muggy no marks   

[Russell sprout]

Looking forward to this,

There forums a joke,seems to be a real dislike to us,that we think we're the dogs bollox,a small club that's had a load of luck,for me,not a lots changed the last month or so in terms of performance,we're just more clinical and solid defensively,I think we'll beat them 3-1,and you can flip a coin wheatear they or hull go down,

They've no ambition for a 'big club',and will always be in newcastles shadow,there fans slag our fan base off,the selling tickets for £10,think theres gonna be 15,000 or so closet Sunderland fans there on Saturday,

Now let's see them take the bait

[ceredigion]

 

There are several other ways that only extremely unlikely goal difference swings would see us down.  As posted on another thread:

 

Assumption: Our goal difference cannot be overcome except possibly by Hull.

 

If City wins 1 match, all of these need to happen for us to go down:

• Hull need to win 2 times and overcome City's goal difference
• Newcastle needs to win 2 times
• Sunderland needs 2 wins or 1 win and 2 draws.
• Aston Villa would need 1 win

If City draws 1 match, all of these need to happen for us to go down:

• Hull needs to win their remaining 2 matches or win 1 and draw 1 and overcome City's goal difference
• Newcastle would need to win at least once
• Sunderland would need 1 win or 3 draws
• Aston Villa would need at least 1 draw

If City draws 2 matches, all of these need to happen for us to go down:

• Hull needs to win 2 times
• Newcastle would need to win 1 and draw 1
• Sunderand would need 1 win or 2 draws apart from their draw against Leicester
• Aston Villa would need 1 win or 2 draws

If City draws gets no further points, all of these still need to happen for us to go down:

• Hull need to win 1 game and draw one game or overcome City's goal difference
• Newcastle and Sunderland need 1 win or 2 draws

 

Agreed that GD muddies the water, but then it always does. If remaining fixtures go against us though, Hull would almost certainly catch us on GD as they would need only a 4 goal swing. But Sunderland can't be ruled out on that either, especially as they play us. If we find ourselves 2-0 down on Saturday with 5 or 10 minutes left, throwing caution to the wind and getting Kaspar up for corners might not be the best approach, because if we lost 3-0 our GD advantage over them would all but wiped out.

[st albans fox]

If we lose to them on Saturday, the chances of it being us v them on GD to stay up are minute. (Both teams finishing in 40 pts will have someone beneath ).

more dangerous is the issue of hull catching our GD up if they get one good win and a draw or narrow defeat.

I am confident we can get a result and I'm usually not.

[Tielemans63]

Can't believe anyone would criticize the clappers.

They're part of what makes us unique. Like the Eagle at Palace games, Z Cars at Goodison or those massive red gaps in the stands at Sunderland.

[ceredigion]

If we lose to them on Saturday, the chances of it being us v them on GD to stay up are minute. (Both teams finishing in 40 pts will have someone beneath ).

more dangerous is the issue of hull catching our GD up if they get one good win and a draw or narrow defeat.

I am confident we can get a result and I'm usually not.

 

If we lose to Sunderland then it becomes possible for all five teams (us, Sunderland, Villa, Newcastle and Hull) to end the season on 40 points. That would be incredible but it could occur.

[Kitchandro]

You have either been misinformed or talking absolute rubbish. Probably both.

I've lived in Sunderland for 26 years and I've never heard of Asda giving away tickets to Sunderland matches. But I'm sure you know better than me. I've been spending £400+ for a season ticket all these years when I could have got a match ticket every week with my weekly shop. No the wonder I'm broke!

Also, I'm not going to come on here and start comparing crowd sizes as that's too 'Newcastle' for me, but the way a lot of you are going on on here absolutely stinks of an inferiority complex.

Don't mind leicester, I quite like to see small clubs overachieve every now and again, but let's not get carried away here, your still Leicester City not Barcelona.

Anyway, good luck for the rest of the season and I hope you stay up, just not at our expense.

Also, if you could keep those tin-pot, plastic clappers at home this weekend that would be fantastic. They're tacky, absolutely embarrassing and have no place in the premier league or English football for that matter, Thanks.

 

 

Come on now, I'll be the first to admit that Sunderland have good support, but you've just embarrassed yourself there. Nobody on this forum has tried to make out we're some huge club. But we're certainly big enough to spend significant time in this league, send you down, and fill our stadium which is 32,000.

 

It's not like you get Newcastle's crowds is it?

 

You may have a fair point about the clappers, but only if you're home atmosphere was as good as ours. And let's be fair, it isn't. It's the atmosphere of an average sized, underachieving club.

[ealingfox]

Their reactions have literally been better than when we were winding up the Stoke fans. What a laughably pathetic bunch of small-time tobys.

 

Leicester wins this season before the start of April: 4

 

Sunderland wins this season before the start of April: 4

[weller54]

Rubbish Sundman!!... You wouldn't spend 2 year's salary on a season ticket to watch that crap!!.. Come on.. Pull the other one!

[Brizzle Fox]

They're just a poverty Newcastle...and that's saying something. Remind me a but of Villa as well. Big club about 100 years ago but now totally irrelevant. God they're so dull.

Saying that I'd still prefer the geordies or dull to go down seeing as we're not allowed to change the rules so all three drop.

[Callabinho]

if we go there and attack them like we have been doing, the game will be over at half time. We only have ourselves to blame if we lose this fixture, win it and we're safe simple as the lads need to go like its the last game of the season all of that hard work rolled into one game to achieve what we set out to do.

I believe that we will do it.

[st albans fox]

If we lose to Sunderland then it becomes possible for all five teams (us, Sunderland, Villa, Newcastle and Hull) to end the season on 40 points. That would be incredible but it could occur.

Like you said - incredible. We already have our run. There won't be two incredible things this season.

[Johnny B]

How did you lot buy Sunderland tickets in the home end? Online or phone?

Buy them online - they have loads right next to us, my mate have bought a couple,

[Guest Col city fan]

He's from Sunderland, of course he's upset.

Have you ever been to Sunderland?

It really is a shite-hole.

[weller54]

Have you ever been to Sunderland?

It really is a shite-hole.

The Stadium of Shight?

[roblcfc84]

Seen a lot of Sunderland and if we play to our strengths we have nothing to fear. Not a great side but the key will be pressuring the defence when they have the ball, they will try and cut out the midfield and play into the front three quickly. I expect he won't change a winning side but it would make sense to bring nugent in to pressure the back line with vardy

[weller54]

Seen a lot of Sunderland and if we play to our strengths we have nothing to fear. Not a great side but the key will be pressuring the defence when they have the ball, they will try and cut out the midfield and play into the front three quickly. I expect he won't change a winning side but it would make sense to bring nugent in to pressure the back line with vardy

Nugent is injured!

[LeicesterAreGoingUp]

So are we safe IF we win and Hull fail to win or newcastle lose?

[kingcarr21]

So are we safe IF we win and Hull fail to win or newcastle lose?

if we win and Hull lose we will be 6 points clear of them going into the last game. Even a draw for us and a Hull defeat puts us 4 points clear.

 

Forgetting Hull and Newcastle if we beat Sunderland that puts us 4 points clear of Sunderland. Our GD is already 7 goals better so say we win 1-0 that would put us 4 points clear of Sunderland and a 9 GD better than Sunderland. Therefore Sunderland would have to win both Arsenal away and Chelsea away to stand any chance of catching us.

 

Basically we beat Sunderland the job is done imo. Might not be mathmatical but there is no way we will be relegated on 40 points

[les-tah]

So are we safe IF we win and Hull fail to win or newcastle lose?