bovril Posted 18 July 2015 Posted 18 July 2015 Agree there. I like how you've un-bolded "odious" as if this was too much, but "parasites" is ok.
Fox92 Posted 18 July 2015 Posted 18 July 2015 I like how you've un-bolded "odious" as if this was too much, but "parasites" is ok. I'm fine with 'parasites'.
bovril Posted 18 July 2015 Posted 18 July 2015 I'm fine with 'parasites'. I'm not such a huge fan of the tendency these days to describe people as 'leeches', 'parasites' etc, but each to their own.
Webbo Posted 18 July 2015 Posted 18 July 2015 How can anyone discuss this seriously? The Queen was 7 years old, they might have been taking the piss. Any excuse for some people to have a go.
katieakita Posted 18 July 2015 Posted 18 July 2015 Bit like going back on FT and seeing peoples views on NP 1st time or the appointments of the likes of Holloway.
The Doctor Posted 18 July 2015 Posted 18 July 2015 How can anyone discuss this seriously? The Queen was 7 years old, they might have been taking the piss. Any excuse for some people to have a go. Unlikely given at that point Edward was around and hadn't gone completely off his rocker at that point.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 18 July 2015 Posted 18 July 2015 This is so pathetic, typical shite journalism from that absolute rag of a paper. Was an 8 year old meant to know that a previously harmless movement would grow to be associated with the Nazi's atrocities years later? That's like high fiving someone, the high 5 being adopted as the formal greeting of Isis and then lambasting anyone who has ever high fived anyone 70 years ago onwards. Fvck off.
Danno Posted 18 July 2015 Posted 18 July 2015 This is so pathetic, typical shite journalism from that absolute rag of a paper. Was an 8 year old meant to know that a previously harmless movement would grow to be associated with the Nazi's atrocities years later? That's like high fiving someone, the high 5 being adopted as the formal greeting of Isis and then lambasting anyone who has ever high fived anyone 70 years ago onwards. Fvck off.Ahahahhaa
Guest ttfn Posted 18 July 2015 Posted 18 July 2015 This is so pathetic, typical shite journalism from that absolute rag of a paper. Was an 8 year old meant to know that a previously harmless movement would grow to be associated with the Nazi's atrocities years later? That's like high fiving someone, the high 5 being adopted as the formal greeting of Isis and then lambasting anyone who has ever high fived anyone 70 years ago onwards. Fvck off. Some of this is so weird I think you must be on the wind up but the Nazis were not "previously harmless" in 1933. Nobody in their right mind could hold this against the Queen, but it does call into question the motivations and sympathies of some of her deceased relatives.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 18 July 2015 Posted 18 July 2015 Some of this is so weird I think you must be on the wind up but the Nazis were not "previously harmless" in 1933. Nobody in their right mind could hold this against the Queen, but it does call into question the motivations and sympathies of some of her deceased relatives. If you went up to someone in the UK in 1933 and pulled a Nazi salute would they be offended? Serious question as my pre war history isn't great.
Rincewind Posted 18 July 2015 Posted 18 July 2015 Well the Royal Family was linked to the German Royal family at the time. Germany did not want to go to war with England just the surroundind terrorties that the believed was theirs to start with. Saying that it is a bit OTT to associate the Queen as she is to the Nazi party. She did do a bit of sevice as a land girl on Britains side so I doubt she grew up supporting the Germans. Would have made a hell of a double agent if she had have done and not being found out. Prince Phillip on the other hand....... What did he say to a member of the public during a tour? 'What benefit are you scrounging then'? Was that supposed to be a joke? If said to me I'd feel insulted. What a twat.
Mark_w Posted 18 July 2015 Posted 18 July 2015 If you went up to someone in the UK in 1933 and pulled a Nazi salute would they be offended? Serious question as my pre war history isn't great. I think it's pretty clear that his issue is with the assertion that the Nazis were harmless pre-1933/34 ( ). Whether any random Brit knew or not, whether they'd be offended or not, Edward would have known in 1933 without a shadow of a doubt. Again judging the Queen as a result of this article is stupid and it doesn't tell us anything we didn't know, but to suggest it doesn't reflect badly on people, who in fairness we already knew were fascist sympathizers, is a bit silly.
davieG Posted 18 July 2015 Posted 18 July 2015 If you went up to someone in the UK in 1933 and pulled a Nazi salute would they be offended? Serious question as my pre war history isn't great. The British Union of Fascist were around in 1933 with Oswald Mosely marching around London mostly with their anti-Jewish sentiments they were massive supporters of Hitler and Mussolini and fashioned themselves as the Brownshirts giving the Nazi salute, whether you would be offended or not I guess would depend a lot on your feelings towards the Jewish population. The Daily Maail was an early supporter with the Labour and Communist parties very anti. I doubt the Princess would have had a clue as to what was going on,you can't lay the sins of parents or uncle on their children
Leicesterpool Posted 18 July 2015 Posted 18 July 2015 I'm not into the royal family, but I think this is a desperate story to be put on the front of a newspaper. We've already read these stories in books anyway.
orangecity23 Posted 18 July 2015 Posted 18 July 2015 So the Queen and her family were fans of Hitler before he went mainstream and took over the world, then after that they didn't like him anymore? What a bunch of ****ing hipsters.
johnny the fox Posted 18 July 2015 Author Posted 18 July 2015 Who cares? This is your fookin history.... that's why you should care..shight comment...
Guest seanfox778 Posted 18 July 2015 Posted 18 July 2015 I used to nazi salute all the time as a child, I was told to stop doing it one time in school but it made me do it more because I wasn't supposed to. Learnt it from Mark Bosnich. Just to clarify though, I had no idea what it meant and I'm not a nazi lover in any way, shape or form.
Wymsey Posted 18 July 2015 Posted 18 July 2015 My Grandad also did the 'salute' whenever he was leaving after social do's - but not considered 'Nazi' as he didn't stretch his arm too far out. I reckon it's used more these days than certain people tolerate.
Stadt Posted 19 July 2015 Posted 19 July 2015 Many of the establishment were admirers of the Nazis and Hitler, it wasn't until they were a genuine threat to Britain that we actually confronted them. If you're sending letters and having him over for tea you must have some idea of what his plans are. Either way the royal family are a bunch of odious parasites. Great piss boiling from the queen!!
bovril Posted 19 July 2015 Posted 19 July 2015 I thought there was a poll Hitler invaded, that's what started the war.
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 19 July 2015 Posted 19 July 2015 The British Union of Fascist were around in 1933 with Oswald Mosely marching around London mostly with their anti-Jewish sentiments they were massive supporters of Hitler and Mussolini and fashioned themselves as the Brownshirts giving the Nazi salute, whether you would be offended or not I guess would depend a lot on your feelings towards the Jewish population. The Daily Maail was an early supporter with the Labour and Communist parties very anti. I doubt the Princess would have had a clue as to what was going on,you can't lay the sins of parents or uncle on their children In my opinion, I think you'd be very hard pressed to have found anyone who would have been massively offended by a Nazi salute pre Nuremburg laws being passed. Neville Chamberlain would salute Hitler openly right up to their "Peace in our time" meeting at the Eagles Nest in 1938/9 (not sure of exact date!)
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