Pearson speaks.

[Voll Blau]

Very gracious comments and great to hear he's still keeping an eye on how things are going here.

 

The sub who wrote that headline wants sacking though.

[Babylon]

There's been an amazing about turn from some on here. When the rimgate story first broke 99% of people on here were demanding instant dismissal of all 3 of the players. Now it's James Pearson (who nobody had a good word to say about him while he was our player) never actually said anything racist, he shouldn't have been sacked.

 

Do you want to back that up with facts. Who are these people who have changed their minds, could you provide the evidence?

 

Because, there were quite a few (myself included) who always said that Hopper should 100% be a dismissal and the other two wasn't so clear cut because they said nothing racist at all. 

[CosbehFox]

But he was signing players and running football operations long after the season was finished, and according to numerous reputable journalists he was sacked over the phone. I'm not sure why you'd even bother refuting that unless you're still clinging on to this 'Cambiasso did it' bollocks.

I am or was a Pearsonite but I have been firmly told transfers have always gone through Walsh.

[Babylon]

I am or was a Pearsonite but I have been firmly told transfers have always gone through Walsh.

Pearson himself stated he always had final say though, he liked to meet / talk to the players himself first. Fuchs admitted he spoke to Pearson on the phone.

[Webbo]

Do you want to back that up with facts. Who are these people who have changed their minds, could you provide the evidence?

 

Because, there were quite a few (myself included) who always said that Hopper should 100% be a dismissal and the other two wasn't so clear cut because they said nothing racist at all. 

The thread is 72 pages long so I'm not going to read it all.I can't quote either because the threads locked but post 119 is interesting 

 

It's the actions of a few shit youth team players, sack them and move on. Short term embarrassment, can't see it altering anything long term. 

 

 

http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/topic/101011-premier-league-stars-racist-orgy-shame-caught-on-camera-during-thailand-tour/page-4?hl=%20hopper%20%20pearson%20%20smith%20%20thailand

[inckley fox]

The thread is 72 pages long so I'm not going to read it all.I can't quote either because the threads locked but post 119 is interesting 

 

 

http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/topic/101011-premier-league-stars-racist-orgy-shame-caught-on-camera-during-thailand-tour/page-4?hl=%20hopper%20%20pearson%20%20smith%20%20thailand

 

Oh dear. To be fair, though, I think that post represents an underestimation of the consequences of sacking them, rather than a call for them to be fired. I think Babylon said on several occasions that it wasn't necessarily the case that all three should be fired.

 

Looking at what Pearson has said about it being a difficult summer for his family, and considering offers from overseas, I can't help but feel that it would have been very difficult for him, personally, to have continued in his post after what happened. A departure via mutual consent might have been more palatable for the fans and for him but, from the point of view of his family life, his exit has probably spared him a very diplomatically difficult return to work.

 

That's not to say it was the right thing to do for Leicester. But I remember a supposedly ITK poster on here claiming at the time that Pearson was a lot happier with the exit than the Mirror headlines, or the wording of the club statement suggested. I have no idea how that would work - as I said, if it suited Pearson to leave then why would his exit be framed as a sacking? - but in light of his words here I can't help but feel that the decision to part ways, be it for the good of the club or the right reasons or otherwise, has given him time to deal with some pretty thorny issues.

 

I would be astonished if the parting was on good terms, simply because of how bad it looked for all parties concerned (except in the Thai press, perhaps), but if Ranieri continues as he's begun and Pearson manages to excel in foreign football, then it will turn out to be the best thing for everyone. Fingers crossed.

[inckley fox]

My point being both was our greatest managers ??

Both gone ...

We move on?

 

Of course, you always have to move on. None of us want to be living in the past, remembering the glory days under O'Neill or Pearson, while our club slides into obscurity. But a good 50% of what we post on this forum concerns things that have already passed - be it ex-players, memories, debating decisions or performances - and Pearson's spell at the club will have an impact on the club for a good time to come; so long as we have our PL status and the likes of Mahrez, Huth, Vardy, Morgan, Drinkwater etc. in the team. So I don't see too much harm in his name cropping up every so often!

 

And, of course, we want to know more for a number of reasons. One, as you suggest, is probably over-obsessing with something which has gone and we can't change. On the other hand, knowing what happened may teach us something about how our club operates, and will operate in the future. In that way it wouldn't hurt to learn a little more.

[Babylon]

The thread is 72 pages long so I'm not going to read it all.I can't quote either because the threads locked but post 119 is interesting 

 

 

http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/topic/101011-premier-league-stars-racist-orgy-shame-caught-on-camera-during-thailand-tour/page-4?hl=%20hopper%20%20pearson%20%20smith%20%20thailand

And the ones that were posted AFTER watching the actual film?

 

If you've used the search function (which you would have needed to do) then you have purposely skipped to an old comment, missing out all of those before it where I said god knows how many times that it was only Hopper who made the racist comment.

 

"Minimum action is to sack whoever made the racist comment and severely reprimand the others."

 

"Only one of them seemed to make a racist comment"

 

"The most seriously viewed "crime" will be the racist comment and that came from one person from what I can tell.  I'm fairly sure that one is definitely sackable, but the others could depend on the interpretation of the wording in their contracts about what's expected."

 

"I'm not saying the others shouldn't be sacked, but I'd certainly be putting a bit more thought in to it than I was about Hoppers future."

 

"Don't know if what I've seen is the full thing but most of it seems to be coming from Hopper. Much of it was off camera but seemed to be the same voice. Don't see him surviving it, but I'm not sure the others should be treated as harshly if that's the case."

 

There are several posts saying that my mind had changed upon watching the film as it gives a totally different perspective on just going off the newspaper reports.

[Webbo]

And the ones that were posted AFTER watching the actual film?

 

If you've used the search function (which you would have needed to do) then you have purposely skipped to an old comment, missing out all of those before it where I said god knows how many times that it was only Hopper who made the racist comment.

 

"Minimum action is to sack whoever made the racist comment and severely reprimand the others."

 

"Only one of them seemed to make a racist comment"

 

"The most seriously viewed "crime" will be the racist comment and that came from one person from what I can tell.  I'm fairly sure that one is definitely sackable, but the others could depend on the interpretation of the wording in their contracts about what's expected."

 

"I'm not saying the others shouldn't be sacked, but I'd certainly be putting a bit more thought in to it than I was about Hoppers future."

 

"Don't know if what I've seen is the full thing but most of it seems to be coming from Hopper. Much of it was off camera but seemed to be the same voice. Don't see him surviving it, but I'm not sure the others should be treated as harshly if that's the case."

 

There are several posts saying that my mind had changed upon watching the film as it gives a totally different perspective on just going off the newspaper reports.

Well I wasn't talking about you especially in my original point. The majority of the posts in the thread were demanding that they all go.

[Merchant_Banker]

Comes across well in that interview and I wouldn't disagree with what he has said. Maybe he has been working on his media appearance before going for a new job!

[Guest Col city fan]

Without a doubt, wherever Pearson goes, the club are going to get a bloody good football manager and will be very fortunate.

He'll be back by Christmas time I suspect.

[Babylon]

Comes across well in that interview and I wouldn't disagree with what he has said. Maybe he has been working on his media appearance before going for a new job!

He has tried a few times to change himself and be happier... I just can't see it through. It's in his fabric and is part of all the little things that make him a good manager.

[ousefox]

I reckon he'll go to Villa or WBA. I think Villa would be perfect for him to realise their potential.

[Corky]

Very gracious comments and great to hear he's still keeping an eye on how things are going here.

 

The sub who wrote that headline wants sacking though.

 

It would be nice if the headline reflected the actual comments but "Pearson says I left the club in a good condition, pleased the team is doing well and the new manager is a good bloke" doesn't really grab attention/ make for a possible press conference "war of words" does it?

[Countryfox]

I reckon he'll go to Villa or WBA. I think Villa would be perfect for him to realise their potential.

 

Number one :  A team not too far away cus I am not moving house 

Number two :  A team that isn't doing too well so I can reshape it and change the style

Number three :  A team that is not in the prem cus I might come unstuck and bugger up my cv  ......

 

Forest !!!

[Donut]

SPOT ON DONUT ..... They will leave ... Their replacements have already been employed

 

Bye bye club in the healthiest state its ever been in in its history.

 

Bye bye owners that invest in the squad without quibble.

 

Bye bye good facilities and extended scouting network

 

Bye bye working with talented players.

 

Bye bye nice salary.

 

 

 

Hello squad full of shit

 

Hello club in dire straits

 

Hello little or no budget to work with

 

Hello worse facilities

 

Hello cutting my salary by 33%

 

Hello half empty stadium

 

 

 

Are they leaving through choice, or will they just get paid off? because no one would swap those two scenario's around unless they were actually clinically insane, which who knows, they probably are if theyre willing to give up everything we offer them voluntarily.

 

[davieG]

There's some fairly rich Championship clubs now.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_football_club_owners

[Wymsey]

Not surprised that Bolton are really struggling financially and their owner is just worth £40 million, compared to their league rivals.

 

Forest should be right up there with Brighton, but somehow find themselves in financial difficulty under Fawaz.

[Countryfox]

Bye bye club in the healthiest state its ever been in in its history.

 

Bye bye owners that invest in the squad without quibble.

 

Bye bye good facilities and extended scouting network

 

Bye bye working with talented players.

 

Bye bye

Hello squad full of shit

 

Hello club in dire straits

 

Hello little or no budget to work with

 

Hello worse facilities

 

Hello cutting my salary by 33%

 

Hello half empty stadium

 

 

 

Are they leaving through choice, or will they just get paid off? because no one would swap those two scenario's around unless they were actually clinically insane, which who knows, they probably are if theyre willing to give up everything we offer them voluntarily.

 

Ok Donut fair point but someone at our beloved club thinks that MAY happen or why else have a room full of people doing the same job..... If it don't happen fair enough just a few extra people at the Christmas party ... If it does happen well let's hope the new boys are up to the job and ... Who knows ... They might even be better ! .... Cross fingers sit back and watch

[Donut]

There's some fairly rich Championship clubs now.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_football_club_owners

 

Yeah, I mean, who knows, they could work for the Venky's......or even better Vincent Tan, hes got a few quid.

 

Then again, Massimo Cellino's sorted his tax bill out. He will help you find a few quality Italian players from Serie C. Just make sure you ask Neil Redfearn what the best way to fit them all in would be.

 

If all else fails, theres always our good friend Fawaz. He would back you to the hilt if they werent under and EMBARGO..........for the 9 months youre there. And then sack you.

 

 

If the staff choose to leave Leicester, they belong at Asylum FC.

[Donut]

Ok Donut fair point but someone at our beloved club thinks that MAY happen or why else have a room full of people doing the same job..... If it don't happen fair enough just a few extra people at the Christmas party ... If it does happen well let's hope the new boys are up to the job and ... Who knows ... They might even be better ! .... Cross fingers sit back and watch

 

In all seriousness, you are right, it could happen. And if Pearson's staff were to leave there is no doubt it would cause upheaval. Because those staff are absolutely top notch staff.

 

I very much hope they decide their futures lie at Leicester. If everyone holds a good relationship between each other, lets hope this happens.

[Countryfox]

In all seriousness, you are right, it could happen. And if Pearson's staff were to leave there is no doubt it would cause upheaval. Because those staff are absolutely top notch staff.

 

I very much hope they decide their futures lie at Leicester. If everyone holds a good relationship between each other, lets hope this happens.

Well said

[MPH]

I have said it before and i'll say it again.... That Sunderland Job has Pearson written all over it...

[Matt]

I have said it before and i'll say it again.... That Sunderland Job has Pearson written all over it...

 

Too far up north for him I reckon.

 

He'll wanna stay local, so a Yorkshire/Midlands club I reckon he'll wait for.

 

I just hope he doesn't end up at Villa!

[Master Fox]

I would prefer it if he doesn't take a job anywhere. If he does I really hope he takes an international job. 

 

If Nigel ends up at a another club I just hope he doesn't try and break up our backroom team. I love Nige but I want him to fail miserably wherever he goes now if it's at club level.