Sharpe's Fox Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 Might as well as pissed on the ball the way he touched it, it barely went in a different trajectory. Clear penalty.
Crazy Kop Corner Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 Clear penalty. Takes Vardy before the ball. I'm not sure why Vardy isn't our regular penalty taker?
sdb Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 100% penalty. Pulls his shoulder first, then goes straight through Vardy before getting an uncontrolled scrape of the ball. Only in super slow motion when you ignore everything bar the ball does it look slightly like a tackle, and even then it's not really.
suffolk fox Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 Anywhere else on the pitch any tackle from behind regardless if you get some of the ball is always a foul. Both were penaltys and both should have been given. Referee bottled the second one on little old Bournemouth.
Corky Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 Not sure on the first one, second looked a better shout. But we weren't getting the second after the first was given.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 My view of it is that he got a slight nick on the ball which didn't alter the path of the ball a great deal, and Vardy would still have quite easily have got shot away had he not been hacked down. So I'd say it was a penalty. Agreed. Touching the ball does not mitigate the offence of bringing someone down in the process - the ball would have still been under Vardy's control, had he not been brought down. That's a foul so it's a pen. Same situation re Stones and the penalty given away against Stoke earlier in the week at Everton.
KP Fox Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 There's a misconception about tackling from behind. It is not an offence to do so if you take the ball cleanly but if a foul is committed the offender receives a yellow card. If the ref deems it to be dangerous play then he has the right to send the offender off. In my view Francis got the ball without making contact so no foul no penalty. The second one there was contact but wasn't dangerous and Vardy was not going towards goal so that was a penalty and a yellow card for foul from behind.
4everfox Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 It doesn't matter, justice was done when Boruc saved it. Vardy was blatantly fouled in the 90th minute though so the referee has potential screwed us out of three points because he probably wanted to level out his previous poor decision which wasn't our fault. We were punished for the referees incompetence.
Buzzell Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 Some bloke in front of me said it wasn't a penalty and infact a brilliant tackle but you can't go diving into tackles and taking the man out, especially in the box. Clear peno for me.
Bayfox Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 Not sure on the first one, second looked a better shout. But we weren't getting the second after the first was given. I think both were. He gets a touch on the ball with the 1st one. But he clearly takes vardys leg to get to the ball. However I agree entirely with the 2nd part he was never giving us the 2nd unless some launched common assault in the area.
Number 6 Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 What facecloth said for me. Slight contact on the ball doesn't constitute winning it for me. Definitely a pen and a red. Thought the same about the Stones one too. If you making last ditch tackles like that it's because you've got yourself in a bit of a mess.
Countryfox Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 First one was a clear penalty. You can't rip through the back of someone and say it's fine because I got a tiny touch on the ball, not these days. Second one Vardy did his trick where he quickly shifts into the path of the defender and allows himself to be taken down. I don't think that should have been a penalty. Ref got it right both times for me. Spot on for me ... ref got it right. Bit of pen training required this week though ... fine margins at the top and that one cost us.
cityfanlee23 Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 As the OP said, If the shoe was on the other foot..... Half of our fans went mental when kante took out a player in our own box a few weeks back, kante was more of a penalty than vardys yesterday and loads of people were defending him. No point debating this sort of thing with Biased fans. By the letter of the law it HAS to be a penalty, But in reality it was a fantastic tackle and did not warrant it.
Dr The Singh Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 Doesn't matter if they are or not. It's about scoring them, and yesterday we didnt
Guest Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 There's a misconception about tackling from behind. It is not an offence to do so if you take the ball cleanly but if a foul is committed the offender receives a yellow card. If the ref deems it to be dangerous play then he has the right to send the offender off. In my view Francis got the ball without making contact so no foul no penalty. The second one there was contact but wasn't dangerous and Vardy was not going towards goal so that was a penalty and a yellow card for foul from behind. So in your understanding you can take a player down who is in a position to socre as long as you touch the ball first! Even if he touched the ball first - which he didn't - he then took Vardy's legs who was in front of him and closest to the ball. Clear peno whatever way you look at it. I guess if you touch the ball first you've the right to beat a player to death afterwards.
Countryfox Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 I guess if you touch the ball first you've the right to beat a player to death afterwards.
KP Fox Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 So in your understanding you can take a player down who is in a position to socre as long as you touch the ball first! Even if he touched the ball first - which he didn't - he then took Vardy's legs who was in front of him and closest to the ball. Clear peno whatever way you look at it. I guess if you touch the ball first you've the right to beat a player to death afterwards. No, I didn't say that. Please take time to carefully read again what I did say. Francis took the ball without committing a foul. It does not matter if it's from behind. It's not a penalty not even a yellow card. Please also take time to read the rules.
David Hankey Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 Tackling from behind has been outlawed whether we like it or not and on that basis this was a penalty. If this one wasn't the second one on Vardy most certainly was!!
weller54 Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 Wonder if Mahrez would have taken the second one?...
Jimbo Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 At the game I didn't think it was a penalty, watching the replays I didn't think it was a penalty. However the ironic thing is I watched a youtube video stating that it wasn't a penalty and then I thought that it was. For the Bournemouth player to get the ball he traps Vardy's foot between his legs, contact with the player and the ball at the same time. Too many people these days believe that just because you get the ball it's a nice clean tackle. If you make contact with the player, or go through him (a bit of an over statement in this case) then it's a foul regardless if you make contact with the ball or not. A harsh penalty in the sense that if it'd been given against us I would not be happy, but it's a penalty
filbertway Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 Ddidn't notice it till they just showed it on goals on sunday. The contact looks like it's actually outside the area anyway.
Strokes Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 Definate penalty, even if he did get to the ball first (which i dont think he did) he diddnt move the ball away enough to stop vardy having a goal scoring opportunity.
Guest Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 No, I didn't say that. Please take time to carefully read again what I did say. Francis took the ball without committing a foul. It does not matter if it's from behind. It's not a penalty not even a yellow card. Please also take time to read the rules. Well I've watched it 50 times and I can see that he takes Vardy's leg, then he touches the ball, then he takes Vardy to the floor. Clear peno.
Carl the Llama Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 No, I didn't say that. Please take time to carefully read again what I did say. Francis took the ball without committing a foul. It does not matter if it's from behind. It's not a penalty not even a yellow card. Please also take time to read the rules. Sometimes life is good when we follow our own advice: FIFA Laws of the Game 2015-16 Direct free kick A direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any of the following seven offences in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force: kicks or attempts to kick an opponent trips or attempts to trip an opponent jumps at an opponent charges an opponent strikes or attempts to strike an opponent pushes an opponent tackles an opponent A direct free kick is also awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any of the following three offences: holds an opponent spits at an opponent handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area) A direct free kick is taken from the place where the offence occurred (see Law 13 - Position of free kick). Penalty kick A penalty kick is awarded if any of the above ten offences is committed by a player inside his own penalty area, irrespective of the position of the ball, provided it is in play. Read more at http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/laws/football-11-11/law-12---fouls-and-misconduct#yIcGED2uxVffzJra.99 Straight forward decision when you've read up a bit. Leave the cries of "no pen!" to the uneducated masses I say. (Well maybe debate the first point of contact ie. inside or outside the box but come on now, blatant foul all day long.)
Guest Posted 3 January 2016 Posted 3 January 2016 And on Mahrez penalty there are Bournemouth players inside the box before he kicks it. What does your rule book say about that?
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