Sunday Times To Reveal Doping Scandal

[owen]

Having read the story, the only time that we are named is when he says he has treated a few footballers who "have been or are currently members of the playing staff of Arsenal, Chelsea and Leicester City."

This suggests, if this isn't just a load of BS, that it could be a player who played for us at some point and he has decided to pick out the fact that they played for us due to current high profile of the club. Sounds to me like this guy was just trying to big up whatever sketchy stuff he does by name dropping us, just to make a sale.

I don't think we have much too worry about. As others have said, our players seem to be tested after most games; we would have known if someone was doping before now!

[FoxCal]

Are you mental ?

Adam Johnston was a pedo and played

You expect us to drop someone if they just so happens to have met and got some supplements off a quack ?

Cop yourself on please

I suspect we have be the most tested team in the history of the league

NO One at are club is doping

All the drugs alleged here are testable and routine tests at that

I literally said that it's 'unlikely' we're involved. There is no way that somebody involved with the first team, whether physios or otherwise could have no idea if a player of ours was, and to risk involving players who were even suspect would be unprofessional on the management team's behalf, who it's fair to say are more than experienced and intelligent enough to know better. I was just suggesting that if one of the current crop were involved, they'd be unlikely to play. I fully expect an un, or minimally changed side.

[Fox92]

Tanner just tweeted saying Chelsea and Arsenal have made statements. Expect Leicester too soon. Also expect us to do more. 

 

So I'm hoping he means suing. 

[Carl the Llama]

People are too hung up on trying to convince themselves that we aren't involved (we probably aren't) to accept that this is a legit big news story regardless of how involved our club is or isn't. 

[Itsthejoeker]

Even if players went to him for a course of treatment for a long term injury they were struggling to heal from, why would speeding up the process be against the rules?

[st albans fox]

Tanner just tweeted saying Chelsea and Arsenal have made statements. Expect Leicester too soon. Also expect us to do more. 

 

So I'm hoping he means suing.

Would be tough to sue as they haven't stated its a club thing. If it's about individual players, would the club know what it's players have been doing during their down time - every hour of each day ?? The suing could be re tweets which have mentioned individuals and the accused the club of doping. People need to be a bit more savvy re Twitter. It's slander!

[st albans fox]

Even if players went to him for a course of treatment for a long term injury they were struggling to heal from, why would speeding up the process be against the rules?

Depends what drugs they were taking. Many are prohibited.

[Carl the Llama]

Even if players went to him for a course of treatment for a long term injury they were struggling to heal from, why would speeding up the process be against the rules?

That's not what the Bonerman's said though.  At one point in the video he specifically clarifies that his treatment's all about performance enhancement but explains to the undercover reporters things he can say in public to make it sound like legitimate treatment.

 

He also talks about not doping above and beyond reasonable performance levels so it's not like he's trying to make supermen but it's still chemical manipulation of performances using banned substances.

[The Doctor]

Would be tough to sue as they haven't stated its a club thing. If it's about individual players, would the club know what it's players have been doing during their down time - every hour of each day ?? The suing could be re tweets which have mentioned individuals and the accused the club of doping. People need to be a bit more savvy re Twitter. It's slander!

It's libel, not slander as it's written not spoken and the club could argue that mentioning us in connection to it when it's a player rather than a club thing amounts to damage of our reputation, which would be provable by the reaction on Twitter.

[Jace]

We are being mentioned regularly on WWE Raw now, our players all of a sudden became 2x quicker than the rest of Premier League, Huth and Morgan have turned into a complete unit at the back and we've been thinking our success has all been because of the clappers? Common think about it.......

[Fox92]

I asked Tanner about suing in which and reply was "If the claims cannot be backed up with evidence it is an option. Their reputation, globally, is damaged".

 

Cannot disagree with that. 

[Carl the Llama]

Yesss then we can use Murdoch's millions to buy more steroids for our players to outperform next season's anti-Leicester conspiracy.

[FoxCal]

It's libel, not slander as it's written not spoken and the club could argue that mentioning us in connection to it when it's a player rather than a club thing amounts to damage of our reputation, which would be provable by the reaction on Twitter.

I'm no expert, but the fact that it's libelous is surely better for the club in terms of a case if it comes to that? Slander can't always be substantiated with evidence, whereas any tweets/facebook posts etc are evidence in themselves?

 

*Obviously the video of this Doctor implicating us would suffice as evidence in respect of slander though, I expect.

[Jace]

If we get a point deduction at least Spurs should too 

 

[Raj]

With a very limited insight into the clubs set up ID ssy this is BS and we have nowt to worry about .....hopefully

[FoxInTheBirstallBox]

BREAKING: Leicester receive box of anabolic steroids and announce it on the lcfc snapchat!!

Loljk I'm more concerned about how many doughnuts I can try and get today rather than some cabbage London scrote trying to get fame.

[GaelicFox]

Probably be a good idea to whack this thread in General Sport

This

[st albans fox]

must be early in a Sunday - course it's libel not slander!

The point here is that many have been sullying the clubs name with doping accusations for months now and this will embolden them. The club should come out and state that from now on, anyone writing such stuff on social media must have evidence for their claim or they are liable to be sued.

[Webbo]

I asked Tanner about suing in which and reply was "If the claims cannot be backed up with evidence it is an option. Their reputation, globally, is damaged".

 

Cannot disagree with that. 

This story will have been picked over by a team of top lawyers. It's very unlikely that there's anything suable about it.

[DJ Barry Hammond]

Webbo - I doubt lawyers have looked at this story, it will be the editor who makes the call on whether to run it.

Maybe judgement needs to be reserved for a bit... The Times may have some more that they plan to drip feed through the week?

[foxes_rule1978]

We are being mentioned regularly on WWE Raw now, our players all of a sudden became 2x quicker than the rest of Premier League, Huth and Morgan have turned into a complete unit at the back and we've been thinking our success has all been because of the clappers? Common think about it.......

There is better evidence that it is clappers than anything else

[Webbo]

Webbo - I doubt lawyers have looked at this story, it will be the editor who makes the call on whether to run it.

Maybe judgement needs to be reserved for a bit... The Times may have some more that they plan to drip feed through the week?

I believe it's standard procedure with any story like this.

 

I suspect you're right about drip feeding stories through the week. They won't necessarily be about us.

[st albans fox]

Webbo - I doubt lawyers have looked at this story, it will be the editor who makes the call on whether to run it.

Maybe judgement needs to be reserved for a bit... The Times may have some more that they plan to drip feed through the week?

I guarantee that lawyers will have poured over it. Every national newspaper have their own in house legal people.

You may be right on the second point

[ARM1968]

Substance, veracity, everything is irrelevant to timing with this. It's a non story, but the timing of it is the key.

[Alf Bentley]

This story will have been picked over by a team of top lawyers. It's very unlikely that there's anything suable about it.

 

 

Indeed. As I understand it, they have said that this bloke treated unnamed players and have implied that they were treated individually, not sent for treatment by the clubs.

If the players were named, they could sue. If the article said they'd been sent by the clubs, the clubs could sue.....but that doesn't seem to be the case.

 

They could just as easily find a known heroin dealer, video him saying that he's supplied heroin to unnamed people at Buckingham Palace and run the story: "I supplied heroin to Buckingham Palace".

 

If the press have some genuine evidence, implicating particular people, they need to produce it - and presumably will. If this is all they have, the Sunday Times might sell a few more papers today, but it will damage its reputation.

 

Mainly, I just hope that our management are ensuring that no playing or coaching staff are distracted by this (unless there's some genuine substance, of course). Hopefully, that's the case.