Jack1993 Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 He's been on his calculator all day for nothing?! Haha it seems so! I genuinely can't believe he had the audacity to call somebody stupid when he himself was wrong. He's now claiming that he was talking about our result independently, which, if you check back he absolutely was not, he owes whoever he called stupid an apology.
Gerard Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 Haha it seems so! I genuinely can't believe he had the audacity to call somebody stupid when he himself was wrong. He's now claiming that he was talking about our result independently, which, if you check back he absolutely was not, he owes whoever he called stupid an apology. If your IQ's were much lower they give you a corner each and water you once a week. I'm past explaining it because it's beyond the pair of you but if you think a point at Sunderland is a good result then you should be at the very least neutral with a point at home to West Ham or there is no logic to your argument. Also Sunderland have won 4 games from 15 at home this season and we should be happy just not to get beat after losing four games in a year.
Jack1993 Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 If your IQ's were much lower they give you a corner each and water you once a week. I'm past explaining it because it's beyond the pair of you but if you think a point at Sunderland is a good result then you should be at the very least neutral with a point at home to West Ham or there is no logic to your argument. Also Sunderland have won 4 games from 15 at home this season and we should be happy just not to get beat after losing four games in a year. A point at Sunderland is a good result if Arsenal and Spurs lose, you agreed to that earlier, it is subjective. You won't explain it again because I proved you wrong the first time. If you are saying a point is always a bad result then mathematically you are wrong (see above). If on the other hand you're now trying to backtrack and pretend you meant our independent result then you are effectively trying to tell a forum of football fans YES FOOTBALL FANS that it is more beneficial for a team to get 3 points than 1 (Who knew ayy hahaha, cheers for letting us know that 3 is a bigger number than 1) Professional gambler hahaha, course you are pal. You won't explain it again cause you'll be proved wrong again. Laughing and brushing it off doesn't cover that up.
ithuriel Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 Sorry, ran out of popcorn, give me a minute and then carry on, cheers
Gerard Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 A point at Sunderland is a good result if Arsenal and Spurs lose, you agreed to that earlier, it is subjective. You won't explain it again because I proved you wrong the first time. If you are saying a point is always a bad result then mathematically you are wrong (see above). If on the other hand you're now trying to backtrack and pretend you meant our independent result then you are effectively trying to tell a forum of football fans YES FOOTBALL FANS that it is more beneficial for a team to get 3 points than 1 (Who knew ayy hahaha, cheers for letting us know that 3 is a bigger number than 1) Professional gambler hahaha, course you are pal. You won't explain it again cause you'll be proved wrong again. Laughing and brushing it off doesn't cover that up. There is a 75% chance that at least one of Arsenal or Tottenham will win this weekend so a draw will be a bad result . Of course everything is subjective, that goes without saying. Our results aren't independent they're intrinsically linked with what our title rivals do, is this even up for debate that it's so obvious? I really can't be bothered typing the same thing out again and again but we're going to be a ballpark similar price to beat Sunderland, West Ham, Swansea and Everton so by definition if a point is a good result at Sunderland it's at least a neutral result in all the other games. If you don't believe my profession then fair enough but you could PM @@Izzy Muzzett and ask him, I haven't seen him for about 8 years but he'll tell you. I do the maths for a living mate so that's twice your wrong.
theessexfox Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.
Gary Eatfood Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 This is 100% fact. If we were to win this weekend it would be the first time in the Premier League era that we would have won 5 games on the bounce.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 This is another "Must Win" game for us. We need to be positive and clinical, and get the job done. All this theorising is quite frankly, unnecessary, and pretty bloody pointless.
Jack1993 Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 There is a 75% chance that at least one of Arsenal or Tottenham will win this weekend so a draw will be a bad result . Of course everything is subjective, that goes without saying. Our results aren't independent they're intrinsically linked with what our title rivals do, is this even up for debate that it's so obvious? I really can't be bothered typing the same thing out again and again but we're going to be a ballpark similar price to beat Sunderland, West Ham, Swansea and Everton so by definition if a point is a good result at Sunderland it's at least a neutral result in all the other games. If you don't believe my profession then fair enough but you could PM @@Izzy Muzzett and ask him, I haven't seen him for about 8 years but he'll tell you. I do the maths for a living mate so that's twice your wrong. I'm glad you agree that it's subjective meaning that the odds you're quoting do not mean a thing, we're finally on the same page, thank you! I am 100% certain that after this weekend when all results are in we will both agree on whether our result was good or bad.
johnny the fox Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/04/07/charlie-adam-offers-sunderland-boss-sam-allardyce-some-tactical/? god bless you charlie...thank you.
Gerard Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 I'm glad you agree that it's subjective meaning that the odds you're quoting do not mean a thing, we're finally on the same page, thank you! I am 100% certain that after this weekend when all results are in we will both agree on whether our result was good or bad. They mean something but you can't quantify it unless your omnipotent. If you think you know a better way than converting odds to percentages from a global betting market then you could make a fortune by taking out the wrong prices. I suspect you don't though. The global betting market thinks we have a 73% chance of winning the title. How many points would you guess we need for the rest of the season to be 73%?
Jack1993 Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 They mean something but you can't quantify it unless your omnipotent. If you think you know a better way than converting odds to percentages from a global betting market then you could make a fortune by taking out the wrong prices. I suspect you don't though. The global betting market thinks we have a 73% chance of winning the title. How many points would you guess we need for the rest of the season to be 73%? Depends on other results mate, it's subjective as you said earlier
Gerard Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 Depends on other results mate, it's subjective as you said earlier Would you take a draw now without knowing the other results?
Great Boos Up Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 Nice to see I'm not only the only one starting to get really tense over this match
Izzy Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 Looks like I've missed all the fun on this thread today! Just to confirm that @@Gerard is in fact a very successful (and last time I checked very rich) professional gambler. He also resembles a 7ft brick wall so I wouldn't argue to his face
biggs Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 Jack and Gerard.....it's gotten incredibly boring...might want to start a new thread......see if it goes 100 pages.....5000/1 odds on skybet
Great Boos Up Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 Looks like I've missed all the fun on this thread today! Just to confirm that @@Gerard is in fact a very successful (and last time I checked very rich) professional gambler. He also resembles a 7ft brick wall so I wouldn't argue to his face Is he going to Sunderland? I got beaten up there once and would like to stand behind him. In my defence I was...very...very drunk.
treer Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 i dont understand what there is to discus really, city need to get to 100% chance of winning the league if city have a 73% at the moment i and we don't beat sunderland the 73% becomes less beat sunderland the 73% becomes more i.e nearer 100%(the title) Therefore pretty imperative we beat Sunderland
fuchsntf Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 Sorry, ran out of popcorn, give me a minute and then carry on, cheers Best post, in the last 24hrs.
themightyfin Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 The maths is simple Spurs need to get just over a point more than us EVERY game for them to catch us. It's not rocket science.
Oxshottfox Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 The maths is simple Spurs need to get just over a point more than us EVERY game for them to catch us. It's not rocket science. Whatever, you can prove anything with facts
Izzy Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 Is he going to Sunderland? I got beaten up there once and would like to stand behind him. In my defence I was...very...very drunk. I think I read he was going in the Sunderland end. Probably causing havoc like the old days!
Great Boos Up Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 Defoe gets caught offside a lot. He does stray but I think Huth and Wes will be aware of this and keep a deep tight line. If we lose the line too high he's fast and lethal.
norwichfox Posted 7 April 2016 Posted 7 April 2016 I'll stick with my 1-1 prediction, I really daren't change it.....
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