Jam orton Posted 20 April 2018 Share Posted 20 April 2018 Didn't have the best game , far too lazy ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ge12 Posted 20 April 2018 Share Posted 20 April 2018 Looked fairly lively in periods last night and made some positive contributions. Towards the end of the game though he seemed to start strolling around at times which was a bit infuriating. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Campbell Posted 9 May 2018 Share Posted 9 May 2018 On 19/04/2018 at 01:34, Grebfromgrebland said: If we don't keep Gray after all the time we've invested in him he'll go and blossom with someone else. He played well on Saturday and is getting better. Him Chillwell Ndidi Maguire Diabate Iheanacho are the future of Leicester City and they're all young and only going to get better. The future looks bright but we have to be patient. Agreed, Still think Gray will be good next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeGuy Posted 9 May 2018 Share Posted 9 May 2018 (edited) On 20/04/2018 at 11:08, CarbonVirtine said: I reckon this is what we'll see next season. I'll be interested to see if Puel rates Musa sufficiently to consider him an option (for the bench to begin with) We've the makings of a very tricky forward line, a couple of astute signings and we'll be looking more balanced and cohesive for next season. Gray, Diabate and Iheanacho are attacking players for our future. He never used him, not even as benchwarmer and sent him on loan as soon as he could. One of the few things he got right. Edited 9 May 2018 by ZeGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wizard Posted 9 May 2018 Share Posted 9 May 2018 One trick pony, lazy one at that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 9 May 2018 Share Posted 9 May 2018 What evidence is there that Grey is lazy? I mean compared to other players in the squad? X 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 9 May 2018 Share Posted 9 May 2018 2 minutes ago, RumbleFox said: What evidence is there that Grey is lazy? I mean compared to other players in the squad? X None. Its also not true that he doesnt track back, though people trot that out a lot. He tracks back all the time 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 9 May 2018 Share Posted 9 May 2018 1 minute ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said: None. Its also not true that he doesnt track back, though people trot that out a lot. He tracks back all the time Would it be highly outrageous of me to suggest that the colour of skin has a bearing on the words "lazy" and "bad attitude" being used disproportionately when describing him? X 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 9 May 2018 Share Posted 9 May 2018 1 minute ago, RumbleFox said: Would it be highly outrageous of me to suggest that the colour of skin has a bearing on the words "lazy" and "bad attitude" being used disproportionately when describing him? X It does make one go there a bit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 9 May 2018 Share Posted 9 May 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said: It does make one go there a bit Not accusing anyone directly obviously and I do say it with hesitation but I do tend to think it can play a part which is depressing. Or maybe I am over thinking things. Either way, Gray is a real conundrum. He shows flashes of brilliance and sometimes he looks like he could become the real deal, especially when he is subbed on, but often when he starts he struggles to make an impact. The optimist in me thinks he'll improve but I do understand why people are frustrated with him. I have no reason to believe he is lazy. Maybe a little unfocussed and he is inconsistent as 90% of young players are but I see no particular evidence of laziness. Personally I would like to see him here next season and see if he finally pushes on but we'll see what happens. X Edited 9 May 2018 by RumbleFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 9 May 2018 Author Share Posted 9 May 2018 If he wants to make people believe that's he's been working on his game and deserves more praise etc, he should step-up now regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 9 May 2018 Share Posted 9 May 2018 16 minutes ago, RumbleFox said: Not accusing anyone directly obviously and I do say it with hesitation but I do tend to think it can play a part which is depressing. Or maybe I am over thinking things. Either way, Gray is a real conundrum. He shows flashes of brilliance and sometimes he looks like he could become the real deal, especially when he is subbed on, but often when he starts he struggles to make an impact. The optimist in me thinks he'll improve but I do understand why people are frustrated with him. I have no reason to believe he is lazy. Maybe a little unfocussed and he is inconsistent as 90% of young players are but I see no particular evidence of laziness. Personally I would like to see him here next season and see if he finally pushes on but we'll see what happens. X His interviews and social media posts from a year ago seem to rankle with people still, maybe its just that But he has been a little disappointing although from what I see he is working on his game, just not had the run in a side thats ticking. Think our team is a difficult one to play for atm, especially for a youngster trying to get his game together. I'm not sure about Gray, but personally I always like to see him on the pitch because with him there is potential and its a bit more exciting to watch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucey Posted 9 May 2018 Share Posted 9 May 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, RumbleFox said: Would it be highly outrageous of me to suggest that the colour of skin has a bearing on the words "lazy" and "bad attitude" being used disproportionately when describing him? X I don't think it's disproportionate personally. Gray, Mahrez, Slimani and Nacho get described as having a poor attitude, yet Diabate, Simpson, Morgan, Amartey, Ndidi and Choudhury don't. Those with a 'bad attitude' reputation have all previously reacted poorly to being subbed, if I remember correctly. Edited 9 May 2018 by brucey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mod hero Posted 9 May 2018 Share Posted 9 May 2018 25 minutes ago, RumbleFox said: Would it be highly outrageous of me to suggest that the colour of skin has a bearing on the words "lazy" and "bad attitude" being used disproportionately when describing him? X “ my favourite actor of all time was Mr Sidney Poitier”... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyrobot Posted 9 May 2018 Share Posted 9 May 2018 20 minutes ago, RumbleFox said: Would it be highly outrageous of me to suggest that the colour of skin has a bearing on the words "lazy" and "bad attitude" being used disproportionately when describing him? X I’m not buying the race card as the reason Gray gets criticised overall on foxestalk. For me he is judged on what he brings to the team with regards to creating opportunities, scaring the opposition full back, actual assists and by scoring goals and generally positively influencing the team and the game. This is where Gray currently falls short. He does sometimes track back, he sometimes doesn’t. He does often look less than happy but that doesn’t mean he has an attitude. Does Chilwell get criticised for his occasional slack defending because he is white or could it be that it is justified? Judge him on his football definitely. Currently based on that he rightly does get some criticism at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 9 May 2018 Share Posted 9 May 2018 1 minute ago, mod hero said: “ my favourite actor of all time was Mr Sidney Poitier”... Watched the whole series again recently. Still the GOAT in my humble opinion. X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 9 May 2018 Share Posted 9 May 2018 1 minute ago, funkyrobot said: I’m not buying the race card as the reason Gray gets criticised overall on foxestalk. For me he is judged on what he brings to the team with regards to creating opportunities, scaring the opposition full back, actual assists and by scoring goals and generally positively influencing the team and the game. This is where Gray currently falls short. He does sometimes track back, he sometimes doesn’t. He does often look less than happy but that doesn’t mean he has an attitude. Does Chilwell get criticised for his occasional slack defending because he is white or could it be that it is justified? Judge him on his football definitely. Currently based on that he rightly does get some criticism at the moment. I hope you are right, I really do. X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 9 May 2018 Share Posted 9 May 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said: His interviews and social media posts from a year ago seem to rankle with people still, maybe its just that But he has been a little disappointing although from what I see he is working on his game, just not had the run in a side thats ticking. Think our team is a difficult one to play for atm, especially for a youngster trying to get his game together. I'm not sure about Gray, but personally I always like to see him on the pitch because with him there is potential and its a bit more exciting to watch Yeah I agree. The problem is he often plays when we are struggling and usually as a substitute. I think ideally we would see him replace Riyad for a few games rather than shoehorned in somewhere else because Riyad is undroppable (I love Mahrez and think he is one of our greatest ever players but if he really does want to leave we should be brave enough to drop him and look to the future). Yeah some of his social media stuff was maybe careless but people forget these are young boys. I did some complete nobber things in my youth but like to think I would not be judged on them forever. I wish we could be a little more supportive on our younger players as a fanbase and a little more patient but it doesn't seem to be the case. X Edited 9 May 2018 by RumbleFox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Fox Posted 9 May 2018 Share Posted 9 May 2018 38 minutes ago, RumbleFox said: Would it be highly outrageous of me to suggest that the colour of skin has a bearing on the words "lazy" and "bad attitude" being used disproportionately when describing him? X We have players of different races who nobody could call lazy (Vardy, Okazaki, N’Didi). I think most people have the idea of him being lazy due to his attitude when he first arrived. He thought he was the finished article when he clearly wasn’t. His persona probably doesn’t do him any favours either. People have had their minds made up about him for a while and it’ll take something special from him to change that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlloverthefloorYesNdidi Posted 9 May 2018 Share Posted 9 May 2018 19 minutes ago, RumbleFox said: Yeah I agree. The problem is he often plays when we are struggling and usually as a substitute. I think ideally we would see him replace Riyad for a few games rather than shoehorned in somewhere else because Riyad is undroppable (I love Mahrez and think he is one of our greatest ever players but if he really does want to leave we should be brave enough to drop him and look to the future). Yeah some of his social media stuff was maybe careless but people forget these are young boys. I did some complete nobber things in my youth but like to think I would not be judged on them forever. I wish we could be a little more supportive on our younger players as a fanbase and a little more patient but it doesn't seem to be the case. X Riyad being undroppable is definitely an issue atm imo And yeah, if I was 20 years old, playing pro football, i'd be a competet tool. More of a tool Pretty sure i'd be making a fool of myself on social media and generally bothering young women 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Babylon Posted 9 May 2018 Popular Post Share Posted 9 May 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, RumbleFox said: Would it be highly outrageous of me to suggest that the colour of skin has a bearing on the words "lazy" and "bad attitude" being used disproportionately when describing him? X I think a players background absolutely has an affect on how they are perceived on here, I held that belief for a long time and not mentioned it too much for fear of being lynched. The criticism is often disproportionate to that of other players who seem to have bad performances glossed over or excused. There are many things chucked about, whether it's attitude, or lack of brains, moody etc. I don't think it's a conscious thing on the part of most people, I hasten to add. Edited 9 May 2018 by Babylon 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 9 May 2018 Share Posted 9 May 2018 1 hour ago, Babylon said: I think a players background absolutely has an affect on how they are perceived on here, I held that belief for a long time and not mentioned too much for fear of being lynched. The criticism is often disproportionate to that of other players who seem to have bad performances glossed over or excused. There are many things chucked about, whether it's attitude, or lack of brains, moody etc. I don't think it's a conscious thing on the part of most people, I hasten to add. I tend to agree but I do understand why people get defensive when it is mentioned and obviously criticising Demarai does not = racism but I do think it plays a role as you say. Anyhoo, let's whup Arsenal! X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samilktray Posted 9 May 2018 Share Posted 9 May 2018 4 hours ago, RumbleFox said: Would it be highly outrageous of me to suggest that the colour of skin has a bearing on the words "lazy" and "bad attitude" being used disproportionately when describing him? X Glad somebodies came out and said this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxInTheBirstallBox Posted 9 May 2018 Share Posted 9 May 2018 ****ing get rid, another baby to throw his toys out the pram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfcsnow Posted 9 May 2018 Share Posted 9 May 2018 18 minutes ago, FoxInTheBirstallBox said: ****ing get rid, another baby to throw his toys out the pram Are you referring to him trunching off the pitch whilst the rest went round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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