CosbehFox Posted 15 November 2016 Posted 15 November 2016 21 hours ago, norwichfox said: We've no chance on current form...I predict 2-0 to Watford. Reached the point where I expect a ruined week following our fixtures....thank fcuk for the brill memories of last season. Still can't bring myself to watch the WBA match, watched Everton home game from last year instead a few times....at least It makes me happy again for a while. Define current form. Leicester 1 West Brom 2 Copenhagen 0 Leicester 0 Spurs 1 Leicester 1 Leicester 3 Palace 1 Leicester 1 Copenhagen 0 LDDWW 8 points for 15. It's not really that bad is it? Even more so when you consider Copenhagen is a notoriously hard place to get a result at and Spurs are a top six team.
norwichfox Posted 15 November 2016 Posted 15 November 2016 7 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: Define current form. Premier form for the season to date, as it's that period which sadly sees us 2 points above relegation zone.....
RumbleFox Posted 15 November 2016 Posted 15 November 2016 Gonna post a formation just because I am a loser and have nothing better to do and, like us all, somehow hope that Claudio might read this, see my formation and think "Wow, that guys got talent. Bring him to me, he is to be my new assistant. I might even give him a game upfront".... Not what I expect to see or would probably even be any good but I would go for.... Zieler Simpson Huth Morgan Fuchs Amartey Drinkwater Mahrez Okazaki Musa Slimani Or if Mendy is back.... Zieler Hernandez Huth Morgan Albrighton Fuchs Amartey Drinkwater Mendy Okazaki Vardy I await a call Claudio....... Rumble X (Yes I know I left one of our best players out of the top formation and another out of the bottom one. Resting rather than dropping). X
Monsell1976 Posted 15 November 2016 Posted 15 November 2016 17 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: Define current form. Leicester 1 West Brom 2 Copenhagen 0 Leicester 0 Spurs 1 Leicester 1 Leicester 3 Palace 1 Leicester 1 Copenhagen 0 LDDWW 8 points for 15. It's not really that bad is it? Even more so when you consider Copenhagen is a notoriously hard place to get a result at and Spurs are a top six team. This is a league game, and the league form, especially away is concerning. 8 points out of 15 would be ok if they were league points, but results in the champions league don't help our league position. Paper over the cracks if you want, our league form is cause for concern, and once we meet a decent champions league team, and exit the tournament, we might be fighting for survival, if we don't start improving in the league.
CosbehFox Posted 15 November 2016 Posted 15 November 2016 10 minutes ago, Monsell1976 said: This is a league game, and the league form, especially away is concerning. 8 points out of 15 would be ok if they were league points, but results in the champions league don't help our league position. Paper over the cracks if you want, our league form is cause for concern, and once we meet a decent champions league team, and exit the tournament, we might be fighting for survival, if we don't start improving in the league. I'm not papering over the cracks - you spoke to 80% of Leicester, post Spurs and they'd say we were back on track.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 15 November 2016 Posted 15 November 2016 A month ago people were calling those claiming we could be in a relegation battle 'clowns'. However, as someone has said previously we now sit 2pts above the relegation zone without an away point in the league. I don't think we will be relegated, but I submit on those points alone, (putting aside the lack of quality / quantity of our midfield, the lack of creativity that has become apparent, lack of desire and intensity that has been shown) as things stand we are in a relegation 'battle'. Because of - not regardless of - last season's heroics, this league campaign is a little embarrassing for the players I would suggest - so far!
Monsell1976 Posted 15 November 2016 Posted 15 November 2016 2 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said: I'm not papering over the cracks - you spoke to 80% of Leicester, post Spurs and they'd say we were back on track. The spurs game was better, especially away, being the first point away, and yes it gave hope that the city we know, had signs that we were still there, but we followed that by an awful performance in Copenhagen, which we were lucky to scrap a point. Its ok saying not many get anything at Copenhagen, but firstly they play in a very poor league, and if it wasn't for kasper, and their poor finishing, it could and should have been another heavy defeat, as we again look disorganised and lacked any ideas offensively. Then you move to the West Brom game, and we was so predictable and disorganised, West Brom found us very easy to deal with. Then look at before the spurs game, we have been hammered and had some awful performances and results. Look I really hope we can sort it out, because we know the players are good enough, as proved last season, but the mentality amongst the team this season is concerning, we seem to have lost that togetherness appearance, the willingness to fight for everything, and the knack of defending, all of which turned the players rejected by other clubs, or unknowns into champions. I trust Claudio to get it right, we owe him that, but everything I have said has brought negativity around the club, and with the constant poor performances and results, and lack of confidence on the pitch and stands, we have lots to be concerned about, and the corners has far from been turned.
Guest Col city fan Posted 15 November 2016 Posted 15 November 2016 2 hours ago, NotTheMarketLeader said: A month ago people were calling those claiming we could be in a relegation battle 'clowns'. However, as someone has said previously we now sit 2pts above the relegation zone without an away point in the league. I don't think we will be relegated, but I submit on those points alone, (putting aside the lack of quality / quantity of our midfield, the lack of creativity that has become apparent, lack of desire and intensity that has been shown) as things stand we are in a relegation 'battle'. Because of - not regardless of - last season's heroics, this league campaign is a little embarrassing for the players I would suggest - so far! It was the usual type of response from the usual suspects to be fair. Just look in the 'The dreaded question' thread. I've maintained I don't think we'll get relegated this season...I think there is enough quality to finish around mid table. BUT...We are playing some rubbish football in the league so nowt would surprise me anymore. I just think the likes of Swansea and Sunderland are so poor we'd really have to be bloody awful to go down..
sylofox Posted 15 November 2016 Posted 15 November 2016 2 hours ago, NotTheMarketLeader said: A month ago people were calling those claiming we could be in a relegation battle 'clowns'. However, as someone has said previously we now sit 2pts above the relegation zone without an away point in the league. I don't think we will be relegated, but I submit on those points alone, (putting aside the lack of quality / quantity of our midfield, the lack of creativity that has become apparent, lack of desire and intensity that has been shown) as things stand we are in a relegation 'battle'. Because of - not regardless of - last season's heroics, this league campaign is a little embarrassing for the players I would suggest - so far! So like penalties spuds away draws don't count either.
CosbehFox Posted 15 November 2016 Posted 15 November 2016 29 minutes ago, Monsell1976 said: The spurs game was better, especially away, being the first point away, and yes it gave hope that the city we know, had signs that we were still there, but we followed that by an awful performance in Copenhagen, which we were lucky to scrap a point. Its ok saying not many get anything at Copenhagen, but firstly they play in a very poor league, and if it wasn't for kasper, and their poor finishing, it could and should have been another heavy defeat, as we again look disorganised and lacked any ideas offensively. Then you move to the West Brom game, and we was so predictable and disorganised, West Brom found us very easy to deal with. Then look at before the spurs game, we have been hammered and had some awful performances and results. Look I really hope we can sort it out, because we know the players are good enough, as proved last season, but the mentality amongst the team this season is concerning, we seem to have lost that togetherness appearance, the willingness to fight for everything, and the knack of defending, all of which turned the players rejected by other clubs, or unknowns into champions. I trust Claudio to get it right, we owe him that, but everything I have said has brought negativity around the club, and with the constant poor performances and results, and lack of confidence on the pitch and stands, we have lots to be concerned about, and the corners has far from been turned. I don't disagree with a lot of what you say. However, it's literally been one game what's killed the optimism which was building. The West Brom game and performance was hugely disappointing as we'd have been three points off 6th and looking at the potential of an European spot. Whereas now we are looking down. My opinion on the Copenhagen away game is a bit more alien than most. We've seen countless English sides go away to so called poor opposition and watched them get ripped apart on the counter-attack. West Ham at Maribor and Astra, Southampton last season at Midtjylland, Man U at Fenerbahce. We had a game plan like most European teams do away from home. After having time to think back on the West Brom game, we've signed a lot of players and Ranieri's gotta work out how to tease the best out of them. I must admit I find it bewildering that we don't play Albrighton when Slimani is on the pitch. Similarly odd that Musa has gone from a centre forward to a left winger (where we are well stocked there and turned down a bid for Jeffrey chuffing Schlupp). Or that we can't utilise Mahrez better because he simply as no support. There's only one way we win on Saturday and we didn't do it against WBA. Worker hard and up the tempo.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 15 November 2016 Posted 15 November 2016 37 minutes ago, Col city fan said: It was the usual type of response from the usual suspects to be fair. Just look in the 'The dreaded question' thread. I've maintained I don't think we'll get relegated this season...I think there is enough quality to finish around mid table. BUT...We are playing some rubbish football in the league so nowt would surprise me anymore. I just think the likes of Swansea and Sunderland are so poor we'd really have to be bloody awful to go down.. Agreed
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 15 November 2016 Posted 15 November 2016 33 minutes ago, sylofox said: So like penalties spuds away draws don't count either. Oh yeah. Forgot that draw. Dont get the penalty reference however? The overall point is we have been very poor in half our league games - all but one of away games - and are near the relegation zone, which for defending Champions is a shocking showing is it not?
Monsell1976 Posted 15 November 2016 Posted 15 November 2016 28 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: I don't disagree with a lot of what you say. However, it's literally been one game what's killed the optimism which was building. The West Brom game and performance was hugely disappointing as we'd have been three points off 6th and looking at the potential of an European spot. Whereas now we are looking down. My opinion on the Copenhagen away game is a bit more alien than most. We've seen countless English sides go away to so called poor opposition and watched them get ripped apart on the counter-attack. West Ham at Maribor and Astra, Southampton last season at Midtjylland, Man U at Fenerbahce. We had a game plan like most European teams do away from home. After having time to think back on the West Brom game, we've signed a lot of players and Ranieri's gotta work out how to tease the best out of them. I must admit I find it bewildering that we don't play Albrighton when Slimani is on the pitch. Similarly odd that Musa has gone from a centre forward to a left winger (where we are well stocked there and turned down a bid for Jeffrey chuffing Schlupp). Or that we can't utilise Mahrez better because he simply as no support. There's only one way we win on Saturday and we didn't do it against WBA. Worker hard and up the tempo. I think the point you make is a good one, and is pretty much sums up our problems, there is little or no support for the attacking players, and we aren't creating a lot of problems for teams, which makes it easier for them to create us problems, and I'm afraid we are not good enough defensively to deal with teams, see Man U, Liverpool, hull, West Brom and so on. Again spot on, the only way we will complete is hard work and tempo, which on the whole has been missing this season. If we played with the tempo and desire of last season, the results until now wouldn't concern me, as you can see the results will come, but I cannot at present. Anyway, I will be there Saturday, and let's hope the players are hurting after West Brom and turn up, and we can start to feel positive again.
foxes21 Posted 15 November 2016 Author Posted 15 November 2016 We can't play 3 CM's because it'll leave the strikers isolated . Shinji in the 4-4-1-1 is the closest we can get to playing 3 CM's.
AyewJoking Posted 15 November 2016 Posted 15 November 2016 20 minutes ago, foxes21 said: We can't play 3 CM's because it'll leave the strikers isolated . Shinji in the 4-4-1-1 is the closest we can get to playing 3 CM's. this argument would hold more weight if we had at least looked dangerous with 2 strikers. I would have the three CM's with amartey the enforcer, drinkwater the creator and king the silent but deadly assasin. vardy will have to put a shift in but with mahrez/gray/musa on the wings, less hindered by defensive responsibilities with a 3 man CM then we could do some damage.
Simo86 Posted 15 November 2016 Posted 15 November 2016 17 minutes ago, Royston. said: this argument would hold more weight if we had at least looked dangerous with 2 strikers. I would have the three CM's with amartey the enforcer, drinkwater the creator and king the silent but deadly assasin. vardy will have to put a shift in but with mahrez/gray/musa on the wings, less hindered by defensive responsibilities with a 3 man CM then we could do some damage. King's pretty much silent in whatever formation you play him in
Russell sprout Posted 15 November 2016 Posted 15 November 2016 5 hours ago, norwichfox said: Premier form for the season to date, as it's that period which sadly sees us 2 points above relegation zone..... And 5 points off 8th, really comes down to who's glass is half full and who's is half empty
sylofox Posted 15 November 2016 Posted 15 November 2016 2 hours ago, NotTheMarketLeader said: Oh yeah. Forgot that draw. Dont get the penalty reference however? The overall point is we have been very poor in half our league games - all but one of away games - and are near the relegation zone, which for defending Champions is a shocking showing is it not? Not a great showing no but i do think we will turn it round and be fine. The peno ref people against Nugent claimed half his goals did not count as they were penalties. But it seems now if Vardy or Mahrez bag them they do count.
NewquayFox Posted 15 November 2016 Posted 15 November 2016 This is the game where we turn our season around, Vardy will find the net for England tonight and go on another decent run of scoring, would sooner see Amartay in for King and Vardy in for Musa.... Up the City....
UPinCarolina Posted 15 November 2016 Posted 15 November 2016 22 hours ago, steveherbe said: Thought Riyad scored at Watford? I was there... I hate getting old! I'm apparently losing my marbles!
fuchsntf Posted 15 November 2016 Posted 15 November 2016 10 hours ago, Col city fan said: I guess what I'm saying mate is that we aren't far off fighting a relegation battle, let alone languishing in mid table mediocrity. It's games like Watford that define whether a team remains near the bottom or starts moving up the table. Points wise, it's not a 'must win'. Psychologically I think it's a 'must not lose'. Thats how its shaping up unfortunately. Like the Last 2 seasons, this one more than the title year, is going to give us a pix n mix character of games. The big 'R' will shadow us for a while.I really dont see how we can call it, and I myself will go back into my own protective shell by not take it game by game. I will stand back and see how one can judge the 4-5 game overlapping periods,..eg november, then november- middle december,...etc etc. Twist and turns Will be the the main stay of our season right till the end. Your topic you delivered a month ago was top notch !! 'The dreaded question' , will be a constant partner. We reached amazing hights and earned the title, but we have to earn still our futures history, where we can talk about the " leicester era" . I have a feeling the whole forum would love to skip forward 6-8 yrs ju s t to see if we made it so we can relax now..lets face it ,its this insecurities and unknown that make the happy memories if they turn out successfull. Like last season , I say sit back enjoy the journey, or we'll br e ak all time records, of Heart attacks From one given forum...
steveherbe Posted 15 November 2016 Posted 15 November 2016 2 hours ago, UPinCarolina said: I'm apparently losing my marbles! We call it the Trump Factor over here!
Will1981 Posted 15 November 2016 Posted 15 November 2016 would like us to give Abrighton a go in central midfield and would also like us to not use inverted wingers. Zieler Simpson -- Morgan -- Huth -- Fuchs Gray -- Albrighton -- Drinky -- Mahrez Vardy -- Slimani
WigstonWanderer Posted 16 November 2016 Posted 16 November 2016 14 hours ago, Russell sprout said: And 5 points off 8th, really comes down to who's glass is half full and who's is half empty Hmmmm.... 5 > 2
Ted Maul Posted 16 November 2016 Posted 16 November 2016 11 hours ago, Will1981 said: would like us to give Abrighton a go in central midfield and would also like us to not use inverted wingers. Zieler Simpson -- Morgan -- Huth -- Fuchs Gray -- Albrighton -- Drinky -- Mahrez Vardy -- Slimani Not sure about Albrighton CM, but you're definitely onto something with the wingers. Last season, they were constantly switching, giving the opposition full backs something extra to think about. This season, they are just sticking to their side and not having much luck. I think they need to swap 3 or 4 times throughout the game, and we should cause more problems.
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