MPH Posted 10 January 2017 Share Posted 10 January 2017 22 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said: I guess Conte worked with him at Juve as well. I get them points but still strikes me as strange but then again if they only play with 1 striker unless Costa gets injured he wont play anyway. It's tricky being a top team and having an out an out first choice - you then have to find an able replacement who is happy tget a few splinters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox 4 Life Posted 10 January 2017 Share Posted 10 January 2017 Claudio has made it pretty clear we aren't selling him. Plus why would we want to arm Swansea (our genuine relegation rivals) with a striker that could help keep them up. Just rehashing an old story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 10 January 2017 Share Posted 10 January 2017 2 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said: Claudio has made it pretty clear we aren't selling him. Plus why would we want to arm Swansea (our genuine relegation rivals) with a striker that could help keep them up. Just rehashing an old story Because if they don't buy Ulloa it will be someone else, we're not cutting our own throats. On the contrary Ulloa is surplus here especially if we start playing 4-5-1 like we did against Everton. if we can get a 30 year old reserve off the books with 18 months on his contract for a decent fee then that's good business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 10 January 2017 Share Posted 10 January 2017 6 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said: Claudio has made it pretty clear we aren't selling him. Plus why would we want to arm Swansea (our genuine relegation rivals) with a striker that could help keep them up. Just rehashing an old story I would disagree with that comment. Things have picked up recently, and i never thought we were relegation candidates anyway.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonFox Posted 10 January 2017 Share Posted 10 January 2017 Don't want to sell him, as I still think he brings something to the squad...especially when we play to his strengths. He might go in the summer though, when we have more time to get a replacement at a reasonable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costock_Fox Posted 10 January 2017 Share Posted 10 January 2017 1 hour ago, Simo86 said: Yeah and Conte has signed him and managed him before at Juve Will teach me not to read all posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costock_Fox Posted 10 January 2017 Share Posted 10 January 2017 34 minutes ago, MPH said: It's tricky being a top team and having an out an out first choice - you then have to find an able replacement who is happy tget a few splinters... True but you must admit they would be able to find a better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 10 January 2017 Share Posted 10 January 2017 Just now, Costock_Fox said: True but you must admit they would be able to find a better option. Well even hernandez for us is apparently unhappy at not playing very often... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costock_Fox Posted 10 January 2017 Share Posted 10 January 2017 5 minutes ago, MPH said: Well even hernandez for us is apparently unhappy at not playing very often... Needs shipping out anyway, not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 10 January 2017 Share Posted 10 January 2017 34 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said: Needs shipping out anyway, not good enough. Well someone who is bought in as a back up is rarely going to be better than the person they are covering... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox 4 Life Posted 10 January 2017 Share Posted 10 January 2017 1 hour ago, MPH said: I would disagree with that comment. Things have picked up recently, and i never thought we were relegation candidates anyway.. Have you seen our next 6 games, without our most creative player? I wouldn't be so sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 10 January 2017 Share Posted 10 January 2017 54 minutes ago, Fox 4 Life said: Have you seen our next 6 games, without our most creative player? I wouldn't be so sure! Did you see the man city game recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox 4 Life Posted 10 January 2017 Share Posted 10 January 2017 1 minute ago, MPH said: Did you see the man city game recently? Yes, I also saw the Middlesborough and Everton (league) games after that. Let's be honest the Man City game was the exception rather than the rule this season. I really hope we can kick on but we are playing with such little attacking threat this season and to now lose Mahrez, I am not confident. Hopefully Ndidi can add some spark in the middle and help turn things around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 10 January 2017 Share Posted 10 January 2017 2 hours ago, Fox 4 Life said: Have you seen our next 6 games, without our most creative player? I wouldn't be so sure! Gray a more than adequate stand in ... Imo ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devonfox1884 Posted 10 January 2017 Share Posted 10 January 2017 As an aside, I reckon Antonio would be quality for Chelsea with the system they play... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 11 January 2017 Share Posted 11 January 2017 Antonio as a wing back in Chelsea's system could be lethal. Harsh on Moses though I think he's been ace this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 11 January 2017 Share Posted 11 January 2017 19 hours ago, Fox 4 Life said: Yes, I also saw the Middlesborough and Everton (league) games after that. Let's be honest the Man City game was the exception rather than the rule this season. I really hope we can kick on but we are playing with such little attacking threat this season and to now lose Mahrez, I am not confident. Hopefully Ndidi can add some spark in the middle and help turn things around. Quite honestly the way Mahrez has been playing I'm not sure we'll even miss him. He's barely turned up at all this season, not creating much, not scoring much. Might give a chance to Gray and Musa to come in and impress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROB-THE-BLUE Posted 11 January 2017 Share Posted 11 January 2017 20 minutes ago, Babylon said: Quite honestly the way Mahrez has been playing I'm not sure we'll even miss him. He's barely turned up at all this season, not creating much, not scoring much. Might give a chance to Gray and Musa to come in and impress. Agreed. Mahrez has been a passenger far too often this season and a luxury we can't afford at times. Would like to see Musa and Gray make the most of their opportunity this month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 11 January 2017 Share Posted 11 January 2017 50 minutes ago, Babylon said: Quite honestly the way Mahrez has been playing I'm not sure we'll even miss him. He's barely turned up at all this season, not creating much, not scoring much. Might give a chance to Gray and Musa to come in and impress. To be fair, the player isn't at fault alone here. Other reasons why we haven't seen Mahrez so much this season: a) the opposition usually double-up on him, much more than last season, trying to stifle his range and limiting his skills early on - here, his teammates ought to be more active and position themselves so they are ready and available to receive the ball b) he's hardly ever swapping sides, which makes it even more prefictable - he needs more freedom to roam all areas up front I think we'll soon see an improvement, with Ndidi now doing Kanté's job, allowing fore more fast breaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al-aLondon-Foxile Posted 11 January 2017 Share Posted 11 January 2017 23 hours ago, Gerard said: Because if they don't buy Ulloa it will be someone else, we're not cutting our own throats. On the contrary Ulloa is surplus here especially if we start playing 4-5-1 like we did against Everton. if we can get a 30 year old reserve off the books with 18 months on his contract for a decent fee then that's good business. Would you think it good business if he went to a rival and smashed in 12 goals over the remaining season, and we suffer a few injuries up top and have less strength in depth? Right now we have options, if we sell Leo and suffer an injury to one or two forwards then we'd look very silly. I wouldn't let him go this month without a replacement and that's unlikely to happen. I actually think he has something to offer us, at least from the bench. Maybe not as mobile as some of our options but he does well in the air at both ends of the pitch which is important at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 11 January 2017 Share Posted 11 January 2017 55 minutes ago, Al-aLondon-Foxile said: Would you think it good business if he went to a rival and smashed in 12 goals over the remaining season, and we suffer a few injuries up top and have less strength in depth? Right now we have options, if we sell Leo and suffer an injury to one or two forwards then we'd look very silly. I wouldn't let him go this month without a replacement and that's unlikely to happen. I actually think he has something to offer us, at least from the bench. Maybe not as mobile as some of our options but he does well in the air at both ends of the pitch which is important at times. We have five strikers. How many other clubs operate with five established strikers. Ulloa is 30 with 18 months on his contract left and arguably could be 5th choice, if we always thought of the nightmare scenario we would need a squad of 40 players and would never have an efficient squad. Even if we got rid of Ulloa and lost three of the other four strikers we could always play one up top and Mahrez or Gray as No 10 or attacking wide midfielders in a 4-5-1. People were panicking on here about selling Ulloa or Schlupp in the summer but would we have missed them in the game time they've had? Short answer is no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al-aLondon-Foxile Posted 11 January 2017 Share Posted 11 January 2017 2 hours ago, Gerard said: We have five strikers. How many other clubs operate with five established strikers. Ulloa is 30 with 18 months on his contract left and arguably could be 5th choice, if we always thought of the nightmare scenario we would need a squad of 40 players and would never have an efficient squad. Even if we got rid of Ulloa and lost three of the other four strikers we could always play one up top and Mahrez or Gray as No 10 or attacking wide midfielders in a 4-5-1. People were panicking on here about selling Ulloa or Schlupp in the summer but would we have missed them in the game time they've had? Short answer is no. Fair points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WigstonWanderer Posted 12 January 2017 Share Posted 12 January 2017 On 11 January 2017 at 22:40, Gerard said: We have five strikers. How many other clubs operate with five established strikers. Ulloa is 30 with 18 months on his contract left and arguably could be 5th choice, if we always thought of the nightmare scenario we would need a squad of 40 players and would never have an efficient squad. Even if we got rid of Ulloa and lost three of the other four strikers we could always play one up top and Mahrez or Gray as No 10 or attacking wide midfielders in a 4-5-1. People were panicking on here about selling Ulloa or Schlupp in the summer but would we have missed them in the game time they've had? Short answer is no. Think that was before Slimani & Musa signed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 12 January 2017 Share Posted 12 January 2017 Just now, WigstonWanderer said: Think that was before Slimani & Musa signed All the same if you have players who can't even guarantee they can get on the bench and they're mid 20's+ then sell them especially for a good offer. I love Leo but if we get £20m for him and Schlupp then that's great business to thin out the squad and roll the dice on other signings who may become one of our best players in time. You could argue: Ulloa is 5th choice striker Schlupp 3rd choice left back Schlupp 6th choice left winger We would need a real injury crisis to not be able to cover that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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