Blizzard Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 This is a gross simplification, but in the case of Leicester this season I just wonder how much truth can be attached to this statement.
Bryn Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 I've been disenchanted with football for years. If our club hadn't been so entertaining in the last three or four years I'd have stopped watching. I've already given up on international football, I plan to boycott the Qatar and Russia world cups and their sponsors. I think Leicester going down with players on 100k a week would be the final nail in the coffin.
Dan Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 It ruined it all years ago. English football's become a bit of a farce really.
bovril Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 Money ruins most things, but especially professional sport.
norwichfox Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 Absolutely, I wish Sky's satellites would go off course and burn up in the atmosphere, there was none of this Prima Donna crap back in the good old days, no dodgy Billionaire foreigners running clubs, managers of most clubs were from these shores and many players even first division had a proper job as well, played with passion because they loved the game and their clubs. ( I'm being a bit "broad brush strokes", but you get the picture)
ealingfox Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 Find myself more interested in watching Bundesliga games than PL games that don't involve us these days.
foxinsocks Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 The positive side of money is that we have some great foreign players in the pl I like that. ... but the fa dont like the impact on the lack of experienced english players. Foitballers putty in the hands of agents who are driven by greed ..... Is it the money or the greed that is the problem?
Wymsey Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 Will be better when the FA isn't reluctant to change, but that'll be a slow process, and start thinking about any form of salary cap, sponsorship package changes and actually improving all aspects of football that makes the game more value for money - particularly in the Championship and the Premier League. Internationally it would also be better if FIFA gets renamed, totally disbanded and makes way for a strong-governed and clean organisation that aims to help curb corruption and financial greed in the game. The term 'FIFA' will now always be seen as unethical etc after the B latter saga. Though the first bit on the FA will probably occur, but only at a snail's pace.
Buzzell Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 The game was destroyed by money years ago. It will just get worse and worse.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 1 hour ago, Bryn said: I've been disenchanted with football for years. If our club hadn't been so entertaining in the last three or four years I'd have stopped watching. I've already given up on international football, I plan to boycott the Qatar and Russia world cups and their sponsors. I think Leicester going down with players on 100k a week would be the final nail in the coffin. This. Gave up on England 15 years ago (I watched the Iceland debacle with much hilarity - the most enjoyable England game I have watched in years btw!) Champions League has nothing I'm interested in, and over the last two years I've hardly bothered watching anything other than us. For me there has to be an emotional connection e.g. the local team I have supported for over 40 years for me to get excited about it, not interested otherwise. And in answer to the OP - yes.
Karljohn Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 I run an under 11s team and get more enjoyment watching them than Leicester. Our pitch is a mud heap, the nets have holes in which we tie up and we have to work hard to get sponsorship for shirts and training tops. In comparison Jamie Vardy 'earns' 5 million pounds a year. The kids idolise these players but there is a huge disconnect and most of it starts with money and their aloof attitude after hitting the big time.
yorkie1999 Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 12 minutes ago, Karljohn said: I run an under 11s team and get more enjoyment watching them than Leicester. Our pitch is a mud heap, the nets have holes in which we tie up and we have to work hard to get sponsorship for shirts and training tops. In comparison Jamie Vardy 'earns' 5 million pounds a year. The kids idolise these players but there is a huge disconnect and most of it starts with money and their aloof attitude after hitting the big time. That's all very well and good, but does your team attract 32000 fans paying 30 quid every home game, cos if it did i'm sure you'd be asking for new nets and a bit of wonga in the back pocket.
foxile5 Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 I was in the club shop the other day and it made me feel sick. Overflowing shelves of crap, over-branded and over-marketed crap. 'Champions 2016' wrist bands. Champions league branded teaspoons. Slippers with Vahrez monogram. All manner of useless, gaudy, branded crap. At each turn some manic, staring depiction of Filbert loomed and leered. It was horrifying the amount of garbage that has been generated, packed, marked at a extortionate price and set out for sale. The sheer volume of useless artifacts generated was saddening. Consumer-capitalism heaven. Heading this up was a till manager or something, she was wearing the panicked, greedy expression of a fat child at a birthday buffet who knows his mother is departing in 10 minutes. Running backwards and forwards and breathlessly hawking shit to families of people ill equipped to afford it. She turned my stomach. The look in her eyes, the single minded greed. The determination to suck every penny out of the customers for the benefit of some multi-billionaires who probably will never hear her name. Soul-rending. The worst part were the images of Kasper, Wes, Riyad and DD stood firm behind the tills. The weird irony of having these mega star millionaires watching the scrabbling masses purchase cheap shite to celebrate an achievement so distant...it didn't sit well. Much less the religious fervor with which people were shopping...so undeserved by the demi-gods failing to justify any of the crap. Ultimately the entire horror show was fuelled by money. So yeah. It probably has ruined the game.
TeamRocket Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 Can i have money? And then il give you my ansa
Clever Fox Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 Clubs where all owned by the Fans. Now their owned by the Business people and the Fans are mainly to blame for allowing it to happen. At the very least they should have an influential presence in all clubs and the FA should have insisted upon it. But as usual they were napping while the takeover happened. Now it's probably too late. What I'd like to see is Wages Capped and if players don't like it let them go elsewhere. Knowing that they have no England Int Future. Then the surplace profits could be filtered down to the lower leagues in and attempt to lift general standards and create a more level playing field. But I doubt any of it is going to happen.
Mike Oxlong Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 Ashley Cole's immortal words on being offered a derisory sum of money per week in 2007 ‘When I heard Jonathan Barnett (player’s agent) repeat the figure of £55K, I nearly swerved off the road. He (former Arsenal Director David Dein) is taking the piss Jonathan! I yelled down the phone. I was so incensed. I was trembling with anger. I couldn’t believe what I’d heard. I suppose it all started to fall apart for me from then on’ Case closed
whetstonefox Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 While I understand all the hatred of Sky etc, Sunday afternoons were deadly dull boring growing up, no live football- Star Soccer featuring Walsall v Notts County, shops were all shut. TV companies basically now capitalised on footballs greed to suit their own ends. The money is horrendous now , but the reality is that we all feed that through our subscriptions. Not sure of the answer but the 'good old days' were not all that great either
foxinsocks Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 7 hours ago, foxile5 said: I was in the club shop the other day and it made me feel sick. Overflowing shelves of crap, over-branded and over-marketed crap. 'Champions 2016' wrist bands. Champions league branded teaspoons. Slippers with Vahrez monogram. All manner of useless, gaudy, branded crap. At each turn some manic, staring depiction of Filbert loomed and leered. It was horrifying the amount of garbage that has been generated, packed, marked at a extortionate price and set out for sale. The sheer volume of useless artifacts generated was saddening. Consumer-capitalism heaven. Heading this up was a till manager or something, she was wearing the panicked, greedy expression of a fat child at a birthday buffet who knows his mother is departing in 10 minutes. Running backwards and forwards and breathlessly hawking shit to families of people ill equipped to afford it. She turned my stomach. The look in her eyes, the single minded greed. The determination to suck every penny out of the customers for the benefit of some multi-billionaires who probably will never hear her name. Soul-rending. The worst part were the images of Kasper, Wes, Riyad and DD stood firm behind the tills. The weird irony of having these mega star millionaires watching the scrabbling masses purchase cheap shite to celebrate an achievement so distant...it didn't sit well. Much less the religious fervor with which people were shopping...so undeserved by the demi-gods failing to justify any of the crap. Ultimately the entire horror show was fuelled by money. So yeah. It probably has ruined the game. You are right Yet a club could be different. Lcfc get so much from sky they don't need to fleece their supporters. A few years ago i was at an fcc mtg and questioned why we had to change the kit every year... forcing families to rebuy ... the lame excuse was that all pl clubs do it. I got shot down on here coz many fans like a new kit.... but it doesnt have to be 50 quid. Its not money .... ... it is how folk react to it.
Karljohn Posted 7 February 2017 Posted 7 February 2017 16 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: You are right Yet a club could be different. Lcfc get so much from sky they don't need to fleece their supporters. A few years ago i was at an fcc mtg and questioned why we had to change the kit every year... forcing families to rebuy ... the lame excuse was that all pl clubs do it. I got shot down on here coz many fans like a new kit.... but it doesnt have to be 50 quid. Its not money .... ... it is how folk react to it. Quite correct. I think also with owners who made their fortune from retail it's most likely the main reason the shop is full of overpriced shite. You might get a t shirt and a pie for going to Burnley but your giving it back when you buy a 99p mini football for 8 quid and a cuddly filbert sold at 750% mark up
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