Wymsey Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 Trump was set for his first presidential medical today. His general presence makes me think his BMI management may need improving imo.
leicsmac Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 6 minutes ago, somebum said: Nice to see we are all such great experts in American politics now. Some FT users on this thread live in the US and have not unreasonable experience of the political system there. 2 minutes ago, somebum said: Listen ive spent a lot of time in Africa and most of it is a sh!thole. Trump is saying it how it is. Seeing the comments here about his intellectual capabilities is cringeable. Sooo...the straight talking makes him smart, then? TBH there are plenty of places in the US that are equally as shitholey as anywhere you'll find in Africa.
somebum Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 14 minutes ago, leicsmac said: Some FT users on this thread live in the US and have not unreasonable experience of the political system there. Sooo...the straight talking makes him smart, then? TBH there are plenty of places in the US that are equally as shitholey as anywhere you'll find in Africa. No what makes him smart is that he earns millions a year and pays as little tax as possible doing it? Or winning an election? His straight talk is refreshing. Fair enough some places in America are massive shitholes.. no doubt he will call them out as well. Whats your point? Was he incorrectly calling parts of africa a shithole? You ever been to africa? If so where?
leicsmac Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 17 minutes ago, somebum said: No what makes him smart is that he earns millions a year and pays as little tax as possible doing it? Or winning an election? His straight talk is refreshing. Fair enough some places in America are massive shitholes.. no doubt he will call them out as well. Whats your point? Was he incorrectly calling parts of africa a shithole? You ever been to africa? If so where? Ah...financial success (even if the odds are rigged in your favour and notwithstanding the business ventures that he failed on) is a metric of intelligence then? My point is that the way he comments on such matters lack any kind of statesmanship, but that aside, the key thing for me isn't that he called such places shitholes (I'm sure that there's some truth to that and I would acknowledge your words on there being a fair few places like that in Africa) but the first word of what he said: "Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?" The implication is that such places demand an additional reason to explain their presence here. Why, exactly, is it up to people from those places (but not say, a white Norwegian) to provide some extra level of justification for why they deserve the chance to be an American? A following implication is that Trump sincerely believes that some people deserve the chance to be Americans, and some people do not deserve the chance to be Americans, and your birthplace (and by extension, your race) is a key deciding factor in whether you deserve the chance to be an American. He is practically saying "America is for white people. The rest are interlopers until proven otherwise. Until someone explains to me WHY they're even allowed here." "Shithole" isn't actually the most pertinent word in that sentence, "why" is...because it means he's getting bent out of shape because the "wrong people" are enjoying the benefit of immigration to the US.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 I think we all know what sort of country America is, when we look at the two candidates that stood for the current Presidency. I thank God I wasn't born a bloody "Yank"
Stadt Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 The places in question are shitholes but it’s not unreasonable to expect the president of the US to act more statesmanlike
Rogstanley Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 4 hours ago, Alf Bentley said: True, but who's likely to glean most benefit? 1) The world's most powerful nation and largest economy, led by an aggressive "America First" President with a gift for scenting weakness 2) A medium-sized economy that may have just downgraded its trade and relations with its closest trading partners and that is visibly absolutely desperate for new trade deals to compensate I hope that the UK can do a mutually beneficial trade deal with the US on decent terms, but any deal will surely be on terms that overwhelmingly favour the US - and Trump & co, in particular (always assuming that a deal is possible and doesn't take a decade). The current lot can't even take the initiative in our own exit from the EU. For all Trump is in many ways a total idiot, he will walk all over May in any negotiate, then turn back and walk over her again for good measure. After that he'll probably grab her by the pussy and wish her a good trip back to whatever shithole she comes from. And May will still claim it as a victory.
Innovindil Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 You're telling me I bought 60,000 "I hate trump" bumper stickers and he's not even visiting?! That bastard.
Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 4 hours ago, Strokes said: It doesn’t matter who benifits most out of it, as long as their benifit isn’t a detriment to us. Which there is no reason why it should be. It will be a zero sum game. They will win and we will lose.
Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 2 hours ago, Webbo said: What's the worse that can happen, we'll get to buy the things we want to buy cheaper than we're buying them now. Even if we don't sell them a single extra thing we'll be better off. We will get flooded with their imports such as chlorinated chicken etc. That will impact on us adversely in terms of standards and potentially impact on home grown produce selling in the Uk. Not to mention health service issues. So how will we be better off?
Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 1 hour ago, somebum said: Listen ive spent a lot of time in Africa and most of it is a sh!thole. Trump is saying it how it is. Seeing the comments here about his intellectual capabilities is cringeable. He's a fvcking dangerous narcissistic buffoon who has not earned a penny in his life. Set up by Daddy and bailed out by the US Government in the 90s sadly when he was all but bankrupt having lost it.
The Fox Covert Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 1 hour ago, Wymeswold fox said: Trump was set for his first presidential medical today. His general presence makes me think his BMI management may need improving imo. Trump apparently eats Macdonalds takeaways every day. Two Big Macs and a Filet'o'fish is his favourite. Walking heart attack if you ask me.
somebum Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 4 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said: He's a fvcking dangerous narcissistic buffoon who has not earned a penny in his life. Set up by Daddy and bailed out by the US Government in the 90s sadly when he was all but bankrupt having lost it. Has. Not. Earned. A. Penny. Ok mate, thank you for that.
Countryfox Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 5 minutes ago, The Fox Covert said: Trump apparently eats Macdonalds takeaways every day. Two Big Macs and a Filet'o'fish is his favourite. Walking heart attack if you ask me. That waddling bowling ball in Korea doesn’t look too healthy either ... with a bit of luck there may yet be an answer to the who’s quickest on the nuclear draw problem ....
Innovindil Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 11 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said: We will get flooded with their imports such as chlorinated chicken etc. That will impact on us adversely in terms of standards and potentially impact on home grown produce selling in the Uk. Not to mention health service issues. So how will we be better off? I'll have cheaper chicken?
Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 10 minutes ago, somebum said: Has. Not. Earned. A. Penny. Ok mate, thank you for that. Read it up! You might learn something.
Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 8 minutes ago, Innovindil said: I'll have cheaper chicken? If you like bleach, you're welcome to it. And our farmers will love losing your trade.
Webbo Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 19 minutes ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said: We will get flooded with their imports such as chlorinated chicken etc. That will impact on us adversely in terms of standards and potentially impact on home grown produce selling in the Uk. Not to mention health service issues. So how will we be better off? First of all the EU admit that chlorinated chicken is harmless, secondly you won't be forced to buy it, thirdly we already import a lot of chicken. If we're buying stuff cheaper we'll have more money to spend on other stuff that will boost the economy.
Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 18 minutes ago, The Fox Covert said: Trump apparently eats Macdonalds takeaways every day. Two Big Macs and a Filet'o'fish is his favourite. Walking heart attack if you ask me. Let's hope so and soon
somebum Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 1 minute ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said: Read it up! You might learn something. 1 minute ago, Cadno'r Cymoedd said: Read it up! You might learn something. You're suggesting Trump has never made a penny profit. Seriously?
Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 Just now, Webbo said: First of all the EU admit that chlorinated chicken is harmless, secondly you won't be forced to buy it, thirdly we already import a lot of chicken. If we're buying stuff cheaper we'll have more money to spend on other stuff that will boost the economy. Well if you want to eat shit, you're more than welcome without considering the impact on us economically.
Mr Mister Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 Only in America would the people vote racist nutjobs like Reagan, Bush and Trump as their President.
Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 Just now, somebum said: You're suggesting Trump has never made a penny profit. Seriously? Yes.
Webbo Posted 12 January 2018 Posted 12 January 2018 Just now, Cadno'r Cymoedd said: Well if you want to eat shit, you're more than welcome without considering the impact on us economically. I have considered the impact on us economically, cheaper food means more money to spend on other things. It's a win win.
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