The_77 Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 I see yer da is all over FoxesTalk today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachyboy Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 19 hours ago, DennisNedry said: Lets play Albrighton and Gray at the same time and drop Mahrez. His form since our revival under Shakespeare has been poor, and he was again tonight. Yes I know he can occasionally pull something magical out of the bag, but how many times has that happened this season? Let's give Gray a chance at being the 'luxary' player and show Mahrez that he can't just turn up and expect to play. Any agreement here, or am I about to get slated? Good idea V Palace, bizarre why you'd leave out your best player though, Mahrez an Vardy were the two that looked any danger, an if Athletico weren't sneaky fouling cheats, bringing him down that will have been more obvious than it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleckneymike Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 Play Mahrez. Discussion over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sionnach gorm Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 If we pulled our players every time they played poorly we would have to commandeer the Lestershire Junior League players to play for us. I just don't see any one player without fault here. Drinky unfortunately seems to be in the biggest rut right now, but I don't believe we have too many options at the moment. I say let have some patience here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudgerfox Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 I'm against slagging players or anyone come to that. But I do think Mahrez was a liability last night and that virtually any other option would have been better. When the team is under pressure, he needs to understand that his job is to keep possession, win a throw in, draw the foul, anything which relieves the pressure on the defence. It's just basic game management. Sometimes a corner will do, better than running up a blind alley, losing the ball in open play and allowing the opposition to counter attack. It's so basic but he shows no awareness of it. One incident typified him last night. After a spate of Atletico attacks,he got the ball near our right hand defensive corner and could have easily won a throw in off the player closing him down. Instead he went into tricks mode, got knocked off balance, stretched to play back to Simpson but mishit straight to one of their attackers, maybe ten yards from the goal line.So instead of relieving the pressure on the defence, he ends up increasing it. The number of times the ball is taken off him cleanly really is extraordinary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 2 hours ago, the fox said: To whom? The overlapping RB or the box to box midfield, because I didn't see any in this team. If you don't like him (as a player) just come clean with it, mahrez didn't do much this season, but managed to contribute to 60℅ of our goals in the champions league. He's not been good enough this season to be an automatic choice as he appears to be with the management. Thats is my opinion; not based on only yesterday but the season as a whole. In the last seven or eight games he's produced very little in a side that has performed exceptionally well in the round, which counters your view that you've been spouting all season; namely that the rest of the team is the reason he's been shit. It simply does not wash with me, my old China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeGuy Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 Just now, NotTheMarketLeader said: He's not been good enough this season to be an automatic choice as he appears to be with the management. Thats is my opinion; not based on only yesterday but the season as a whole. In the last seven or eight games he's produced very little in a side that has performed exceptionally well in the round, which counters your view that you've been spouting all season; namely that the rest of the team is the reason he's been shit. It simply does not wash with me, my old China. Your consistency at slagging him off is quite amazing I must say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the fox Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 17 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said: He's not been good enough this season to be an automatic choice as he appears to be with the management. Thats is my opinion; not based on only yesterday but the season as a whole. In the last seven or eight games he's produced very little in a side that has performed exceptionally well in the round, which counters your view that you've been spouting all season; namely that the rest of the team is the reason he's been shit. It simply does not wash with me, my old China. The last 8 matches?, he played good vs hull and west ham, played great vs Sevilla and was decent vs Sunderland, against stoke, not so much, didn't play enough minutes vs Everton to call him bad, but yeah, he didn't preform offensively last game. I find it funny that you have a problem with people defending mahrez but you are going at him like he took your lunch money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 Even if he is having a bad game, teams set up in order to stop him, change game plans to stop him, leaving someone some space Like us yesterday with griezman, we swapped our strategy to stop him playing his style and seriously limited him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 Mahrez for us often reminds me of when LeTissier was at Southampton. LeTissier was often accused of beating lazy, not tracking back and drifting in and out of games. But like Mahrez, he was a footballing genius and capable of changing a game with a moment of magic. A 'luxury' player maybe, but LeTissier is revered as a god by saints fans and they always thought he would leave them for bigger clubs. But he stayed loyal and became a legend instead. I think Mahrez will leave in the summer which means we may only see him another 10 or so times in a Leicester shirt - just think about that for a second. I would never entertain the idea of dropping him and I want to see him play all our remaining games and give us just a few moments to remember. We'll all miss Riyad when he's gone and we should always be grateful for his contribution to our glory years. I love him but he's too good for us if we're honest. I'll follow is career with keen interest when he leaves but in the mean time, lets savour him while he's still with us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeGuy Posted 13 April 2017 Share Posted 13 April 2017 31 minutes ago, Izzy Muzzett said: Mahrez for us often reminds me of when LeTissier was at Southampton. LeTissier was often accused of beating lazy, not tracking back and drifting in and out of games. But like Mahrez, he was a footballing genius and capable of changing a game with a moment of magic. A 'luxury' player maybe, but LeTissier is revered as a god by saints fans and they always thought he would leave them for bigger clubs. But he stayed loyal and became a legend instead. I think Mahrez will leave in the summer which means we may only see him another 10 or so times in a Leicester shirt - just think about that for a second. I would never entertain the idea of dropping him and I want to see him play all our remaining games and give us just a few moments to remember. We'll all miss Riyad when he's gone and we should always be grateful for his contribution to our glory years. I love him but he's too good for us if we're honest. I'll follow is career with keen interest when he leaves but in the mean time, lets savour him while he's still with us... Never got over the fact that Le Tissier never really got a chance in the english team. The most baffling was that he didn't even had pace. Just strolling around until he got the ball. The way he skinned the opponents, his vision and his shooting ability were quite something. He was Xavi's idol. I think that's a fundamental problem in the mentality here and one of the reasons England never did well in the international tournaments: the lack of appreciation to flair players and failing to see that they can''t be judged on the sole work rate basis. Game changers win you not only a game but also a tournament. Mahrez is the touch of glamour in a team of hard workers and what he can do with a ball is absolutely amazing. He's been far off the standards he set last season but is still a joy to watching no matter how frustrating he can be. I'd start him from the bench for 1 game or two though, in the hope that he'd really turn up. Rather 7-8 games at full potential than 10 mild or poor ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireFox Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 Play him on the left - let him link up with a proper fullback in Fuchs & keep him away from their better fullback. Albrighton on the right, Slimani to start, and bench Vardy - they won't afford him the space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trabuch Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 Good plan - need to rest him before At Mad. Also we need to rest Drinkwater - but not necessarily just for At Mad, maybe until after the operation he seems to need.. (we have been quite unlucky with injuries this season - but I'll take that) Just read the Le Tiss comments - I wholeheartedly agree. Not playing him was/is everything that's wrong with England. Also - I imagine that any opposition we play would be quite happy if we left Mahrez out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trabuch Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 Oh shit - just read the Le Tiss comments - I wholeheartedly agree. Not playing him was/is everything that's wrong with England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxonMaui Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 It just boggles my mind when I see a thread like this!! Mind if I share a little perspective? Riyad will probably leave us for a top, top team this summer where he will be surrounded by other highly technically skilled team mates and he will find himself getting the ball delivered to his feet perfectly around 20 to 22 yards from goal and he will not only score a lot of superb goals but also produce many sublime assists. We will then have a thread on here wistfully remembering when we had the luxury of him in our side. To his credit this year he has never been seen to moan or act like a big time Charlie. What has he done ? Worked hard and greatly improved his defensive qualities and always been a team player. He clearly loves this club and genuinely is grateful up for the opportunity this club gave him. On top of that he is a humble guy. What more do all you want!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 13 hours ago, Izzy Muzzett said: Mahrez for us often reminds me of when LeTissier was at Southampton. LeTissier was often accused of beating lazy, not tracking back and drifting in and out of games. But like Mahrez, he was a footballing genius and capable of changing a game with a moment of magic. A 'luxury' player maybe, but LeTissier is revered as a god by saints fans and they always thought he would leave them for bigger clubs. But he stayed loyal and became a legend instead. I think Mahrez will leave in the summer which means we may only see him another 10 or so times in a Leicester shirt - just think about that for a second. I would never entertain the idea of dropping him and I want to see him play all our remaining games and give us just a few moments to remember. We'll all miss Riyad when he's gone and we should always be grateful for his contribution to our glory years. I love him but he's too good for us if we're honest. I'll follow is career with keen interest when he leaves but in the mean time, lets savour him while he's still with us... The lazy reference: I'm not complaining about this so much as I think in this respect he has improved in recent weeks. He lacks concentration much of the time more than anything on the defensive side of his game. Im talking about losing possession too easily, often not passing to players when that is a better option for the team, not creating enough chances, and not scoring enough goals. Saying that he is too good for us is an absolute joke. Look at his stats THIS SEASON in the PL, and he is miles off what he was last season. Lack of end product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeGuy Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 7 hours ago, FireFox said: Play him on the left - let him link up with a proper fullback in Fuchs & keep him away from their better fullback. Albrighton on the right, Slimani to start, and bench Vardy - they won't afford him the space. That's exactly what I had in mind for the home game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redouane Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 14 hours ago, Izzy Muzzett said: Mahrez for us often reminds me of when LeTissier was at Southampton. LeTissier was often accused of beating lazy, not tracking back and drifting in and out of games. But like Mahrez, he was a footballing genius and capable of changing a game with a moment of magic. A 'luxury' player maybe, but LeTissier is revered as a god by saints fans and they always thought he would leave them for bigger clubs. But he stayed loyal and became a legend instead. I think Mahrez will leave in the summer which means we may only see him another 10 or so times in a Leicester shirt - just think about that for a second. I would never entertain the idea of dropping him and I want to see him play all our remaining games and give us just a few moments to remember. We'll all miss Riyad when he's gone and we should always be grateful for his contribution to our glory years. I love him but he's too good for us if we're honest. I'll follow is career with keen interest when he leaves but in the mean time, lets savour him while he's still with us... I doubt he'd leave if he gets through to the 1/2 final of the UCL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redouane Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 58 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said: The lazy reference: I'm not complaining about this so much as I think in this respect he has improved in recent weeks. He lacks concentration much of the time more than anything on the defensive side of his game. Im talking about losing possession too easily, often not passing to players when that is a better option for the team, not creating enough chances, and not scoring enough goals. Saying that he is too good for us is an absolute joke. Look at his stats THIS SEASON in the PL, and he is miles off what he was last season. Lack of end product. Maybe he's not as good as last year, but neither is Vardy, or anyone for that matter. So why specifically target Mahrez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 He attracts the attention of the opposing backs and so creates space. Yes he needs to mix it up more... early ball in or dribble wide or cut inside to keep them guessing He should start... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 We have a number of players. . Grey slimani... mahrez and chillwell who need mentoring and specialist development to improve aspects of their game. Much team traing is too general to addesss this and may also focus on tactics for up coming games. These lads need a personal trainer for 1 hour per day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Nacho Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 Agree with this totally, his work rate has been abysmal recently and all he does it try to go on a mazy run beating 2 or 3 three players but then loses out. When there's an opportunity to pass it to someone he just wants to show off it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankMarvin Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 Was Simpson having a go about not defending or losing possession? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 14 April 2017 Share Posted 14 April 2017 3 hours ago, Redouane said: Maybe he's not as good as last year, but neither is Vardy, or anyone for that matter. So why specifically target Mahrez? I am repeating myself here. He has not improved to the same extent others have since Shakey took over. The rest of the team have improved markedly recently; not enough end product from RM, simple as that. You made the wrong choice in citing Vardy as a comparison who on the the other hand has missed a few chances - every striker does- but generally he's been on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DennisNedry Posted 14 April 2017 Author Share Posted 14 April 2017 3 hours ago, Redouane said: Maybe he's not as good as last year, but neither is Vardy, or anyone for that matter. So why specifically target Mahrez? Vardy is bang in form! As is most of the team in the past month or so. Except for Mahrez imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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