Premier League, 2017-2018 Season Thread

[ARTY_FOX]

41 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

No he doesn't.

Yes he does. 

[the fox]

1 minute ago, Wookie said:

"Failed to deliver time and time again"

He probably should have won the Champion's League more than once but he's had an ousting career and is one of the managerial greats

You know that I meant the CL.

 

He is one of the best managers ever, don't get me wrong. What I'm saying is; people shower Pep with praise and many talk about how he's the best manager out there. To me, he's yet to prove that he can Win when the odds are stacked against him. He always had the boards backing and had the best team in his league almost every year but when he has the opportunity to prove his doubters wrong, he withers in the background.

 

I expect a lot from him to the point of taking his league wins for granted. him failing to acknowledge his weaknesses is frustrating. he's too prideful to a fault. He wants to direct the game to his liking and when he doesn't get when he wants, he withers away. He's not a crises manager and can only sail when the winds are backing him. 

 

I want him to do good but it comes a time when you get frustrated with someone so talented yet so stubborn.

 

[BenTheFox]

This has probably been the worst premier league season ever. The title has been done and dusted since November, the top four has been sorted for weeks, the relegation battle looks like it's probably sorted and there are so many bang average teams in the league. The style of football you see being played throughout the other top leagues in Europe is far more commendable as is their policy of bringing through young players. Just think the premier league this season hasn't had anything going for it whatsoever. 

Edited 15 April 2018 by BenTheFox

[Stadt]

1 minute ago, the fox said:

You know that I meant the CL.

 

He is one of the best managers ever, don't get me wrong. What I'm saying is; people shower Pep with praise and many talk about how he's the best manager out there. To me, he's yet to prove that he can Win when the odds are stacked against him. He always had the boards backing and had the best team in his league almost every year but when he has the opportunity to prove his doubters wrong, he withers in the background.

 

I expect a lot from him to the point of taking his league wins for granted. him failing to acknowledge his weaknesses is frustrating. he's too prideful to a fault. He wants to direct the game to his liking and when he doesn't get when he wants, he withers away. He's not a crises manager and can only sail when the winds are backing him. 

 

I want him to do good but it comes a time when you get frustrated with someone so talented yet so stubborn.

 

What do you want him to do, play long ball? He probably is a bit stubborn but it's worked well so far in his career. What exactly are his weaknesses?

[Samilktray]

That's not me 

[StanSP]

19 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

This has probably been the worst premier league season ever. The title has been done and dusted since November, the top four has been sorted for weeks, the relegation battle looks like it's probably sorted and there are so many bang average teams in the league. The style of football you see being played throughout the other top leagues in Europe is far more commendable as is their policy of bringing through young players. Just think the premier league this season hasn't had anything going for it whatsoever. 

how?

Only West Brom are certified to go. Today's result just prolongs the inevitable for them.

 

Then it's realisitcally between Southampton, Stoke and Swansea for the other 2 spots. They all have to play each other still. West Ham and Palace not totally out of it but unlikely they'll drop, needing probably just one more win.

[BenTheFox]

2 minutes ago, StanSP said:

how?

Only West Brom are certified to go. Today's result just prolongs the inevitable for them.

 

Then it's realisitcally between Southampton, Stoke and Swansea for the other 2 spots. They all have to play each other still. West Ham and Palace not totally out of it but unlikely they'll drop, needing probably just one more win.

There's a five point gap between Swansea in 17th and Southampton in 18th with five games to go. That's pretty commanding. Things may change, but I doubt it.

[z-layrex]

1 hour ago, StanSP said:

the ultimate cringe

 

Holy shit that's disgusting.

[z-layrex]

6 hours ago, ScouseFox said:

have you watched man city play this season? it’s been the complete opposite of dull and depressing from start to finish 

Yeah disagree entirely. A depressing season with absolutely nothing about it, capped off with an equally depressing oil club as champions.

[gurru991]

32 minutes ago, z-layrex said:

Yeah disagree entirely. A depressing season with absolutely nothing about it, capped off with an equally depressing oil club as champions.

I disagree

Man City showed the league that there is another way to play football. Good Job !!

We can talk forever about where the money came from but at the end of the day the product was Excellent

[Jattdogg]

3 hours ago, StanSP said:

the ultimate cringe

 

That is a fookin joke right? Am i dreaming????????

 

They should be stripped of the title for that. Disgraceful lol.

Edited 16 April 2018 by Jattdogg

[Jattdogg]

https://mobile.twitter.com/vtavares00/status/985612278585180160/video/1

 

 

epic celebrations at the Etihad.  What support they have.

[Stadt]

Crikey that is dogshit, at least the Chelsea Spurs game was dramatic. 

 

 

 

Man City get a lot of shit for "oil money blah blah blah, soulless blah blah" but United are just as bad with official noodle partners and tractor sponsors, Burnley are the only top half side that are true to their roots. We're just as bad.

[FrankieADZ]

least it wasnt just me thinking there was a lack of celebration from the Man City fans, probably more at one pub in Leicester than there at the Etihad after the Utd result

 

guess the whole winning the league thing means more to us than them I suppose....

[ZeGuy]

So Kane scored for West Brom? and won Oil City the title? PFA this year then.

Edited 16 April 2018 by ZeGuy

[Bert]

Arsenal no point away from home in the league in 2018. We all know when that's coming. 

[Finnegan]

9 hours ago, Wookie said:

"Failed to deliver time and time again"

He probably should have won the Champion's League more than once but he's had an outstanding career and is one of the managerial greats already

Like twice? 

[ScouseFox]

7 hours ago, z-layrex said:

Yeah disagree entirely. A depressing season with absolutely nothing about it, capped off with an equally depressing oil club as champions.

who cares how much money they spent, never understood crying about that. they could’ve spent twice as much as they did for all i care, they’ve produced sensational football from the first game til their most recent and it’s been an absolute pleasure to watch. 

[Finnegan]

4 minutes ago, ScouseFox said:

who cares how much money they spent, never understood crying about that. they could’ve spent twice as much as they did for all i care, they’ve produced sensational football from the first game til their most recent and it’s been an absolute pleasure to watch. 

 

Yeah I have mixed feelings. The money in football is sad but that's not the player's fault or the manager's. 

 

It's not like they paid 200m for Kevin de Bruyne either, or that he and Sterling were anywhere near that good until Pep got there. 

 

Credit to all of them. Doesn't matter how much their marketing team are a bunch of melts or their owners are oil barons, the players deserve it. 

 

I mean for about the same spend, you could be united. Look at the state of them. 

[StanSP]

At least he's spent and won the thing. 

 

Mourinho spent £90m on a striker and obscene wages on Sanchez and others to not win it... 

[The Guvnor]

12 hours ago, ARTY_FOX said:

Then I feel for you. I really do. If you can't differentiate the man from the job then you must hate a hell of alot of people. Funny thing isn't it that people are talking about mourinho and not the fact his players fluffed however many opportunities. Exactly the opposite of what we heard on here yesterday. 

 

Wether you like him or not. Mourinho is one of the best at what he does. 

Arty, there is a difference between disliking someone and 'Hating' them. I dislike him. And you are right he is the best at what he does, he certainly has no equal when it comes to the whining dept.

[ARTY_FOX]

9 minutes ago, The Guvnor said:

Arty, there is a difference between disliking someone and 'Hating' them. I dislike him. And you are right he is the best at what he does, he certainly has no equal when it comes to the whining dept.

He isn't even world class in whining department he's lacking behind Wenger, Hughes and most definitely pique in that department.

 

Like I said, the conversation when he loses is all about mourinho. Love him or hate him it's smart it's mind games. After the Burnley game you had all the puel out lot still calling for his head and the people that wanting him to stay pointing out it was a poor finishing from our players and that's not puels fault, it's the players fault. 

 

So a day later, Man Utd lose to bottom of the league, 3 wins all season prior to kick off West Brom. After the game all the talk is on mourinho. How he handed city the title and disecting how he was wrong and how he made mistakes. When in reality his players had more than enough chances to put the game to bed before West Brom scored. Nobody is blaming the players nobody is talking about their failings it's all on mourinho. 

 

The players get off free because everyone is talking about mourinho. There's instantly less pressure there. He is one of the best football managers in the world. Easily. He's popular with people that meet him away from football, because he has a persona in front of the media and he does what he has to do to ease the pressure or motivate his players. As did Fergie. Who to many, is the best ever. 

[Finnegan]

Mourinho is the new Wenger tbh. 

 

Both undoubtedly brilliant early in their careers but both lost their edge. 

 

Ferguson survived because he constantly looked to reinvent himself and never lost his passion for the game. 

 

Mourinho and Wenger don't have the hunger of younger coaches and it shows. Mourinho used to have swagger, now his arrogance takes the form of lashing out at everyone else and denial.

 

He used to be the Zlatan of coaches, now he sounds beaten. 

 

Genuinely wouldn't want him anywhere near my club. 

[ScouseFox]

1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

 

Yeah I have mixed feelings. The money in football is sad but that's not the player's fault or the manager's. 

 

It's not like they paid 200m for Kevin de Bruyne either, or that he and Sterling were anywhere near that good until Pep got there. 

 

Credit to all of them. Doesn't matter how much their marketing team are a bunch of melts or their owners are oil barons, the players deserve it. 

 

I mean for about the same spend, you could be united. Look at the state of them. 

meh, just don’t get it. ticket prices, prices of kits if you want one etc yeah that’s where “money in the modern game” and pisses fans off but i don’t watch kevin de bruyne make his own assist of the season competition or leroy sane rinse the 5th man of his mazy run to score and think “oh god no, didn’t he cost more than burnley could spend on john walters?!” i just think fu cking hell this is sensational football. 

[Stadt]

2 hours ago, Finnegan said:

Like twice? 

I meant with another club