HighPeakFox Posted 13 May 2017 Posted 13 May 2017 1 minute ago, st albans fox said: Shakey said it wasn't malicious. Shakey's wrong.
Clever Fox Posted 13 May 2017 Posted 13 May 2017 I don't know what you're all so confused about. The Rule states that nobody is supposed to be in the Box other than the Kicker and the Goalkeeper. Period. The Ref is supposed to ensure that's the case before he allows the Game continue. Which meant it should have been a retaken Penalty Kick. Had it been a legit kick the Ref was right your not allowed two touches. But it wasn't legit and so it should have been retaken.
wokinghamfox Posted 13 May 2017 Posted 13 May 2017 5 hours ago, Koke said: It was the correct decidion by Madley. Agree. Should never stand but had I been the ref as a Leicester fan I would've given it.?
sylofox Posted 13 May 2017 Posted 13 May 2017 13 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Shakey said it wasn't malicious. Really is that what he believes or what he thinks he should say. 12 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said: Shakey's wrong. Yes. Had Youngy Elliott or Walsh been on the pitch that dirty cvnt would have been laid out.
syston_fox Posted 13 May 2017 Posted 13 May 2017 32 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Good point the law is an ass in this case and needs changing. Imagine this was the last minute of injury time and you were trying to stay up. The defender dives to push your shot away off the line. He is sent off but it's no big deal as game is over. And then your penalty taker does a Riyad? No attempt to gain an advantage - just an accident. The ball goes in but the other team get an indirect free kick. Where is the justice ? You are denied a certain goal and have not had the benefit of retribution. Could even be due to the turf giving way as you take the kick. and then the final whistle goes and you are relegated.............. we can change the kick off (what's the point!) - we can get this law changed aswell. No intention should mean retake if the ball goes in. If you miss then it's just bad luck. You can't re write history. Where do you draw the line? John Terry's slip in the champions league final? Beckham lashing one over the bar for England because the turf moved? Both unfortunate but I wouldn't suggest either should be retaken but in "normal" circumstances, both would have scored but instead went on to lose the games. Yes it sucks and is incredible bad luck in this case but I don't think a rule change is needed.
st albans fox Posted 13 May 2017 Posted 13 May 2017 1 minute ago, syston_fox said: Where do you draw the line? John Terry's slip in the champions league final? Beckham lashing one over the bar for England because the turf moved? Both unfortunate but I wouldn't suggest either should be retaken but in "normal" circumstances, both would have scored but instead went on to lose the games. Yes it sucks and is incredible bad luck in this case but I don't think a rule change is needed. I said that if the player misses then it's bad luck - you can't rewrite history. If the player scores then it should be a retake. the line is fairly clear ?
Chairman of the Bored Posted 13 May 2017 Posted 13 May 2017 The ref should have used his common sense and ruled that the second touch was involuntary and therefore not deliberate and allowed the goal to stand.
syston_fox Posted 13 May 2017 Posted 13 May 2017 5 minutes ago, st albans fox said: I said that if the player misses then it's bad luck - you can't rewrite history. If the player scores then it should be a retake. the line is fairly clear ? So in this case, standing foot catches the ball and it goes in then Mahrez gets to retake? Standing foot catches the ball and he misses and that's just bad luck? That tiny touch with the standing foot could be the reason why you score rather than Miss or vice versa.
st albans fox Posted 13 May 2017 Posted 13 May 2017 2 minutes ago, syston_fox said: So in this case, standing foot catches the ball and it goes in then Mahrez gets to retake? Standing foot catches the ball and he misses and that's just bad luck? That tiny touch with the standing foot could be the reason why you score rather than Miss or vice versa. But the ball DOES go in. If it misses then you can never know if it would have gone in. If it goes in then what is there to debate. No intent to gain an advantage shouldn't mean you lose the opportunity to score your penalty. i am surprised that anyone thinks changing the law isn't a sensible thing to do to avoid this happening again. (To anyone)
syston_fox Posted 13 May 2017 Posted 13 May 2017 2 minutes ago, st albans fox said: But the ball DOES go in. If it misses then you can never know if it would have gone in. If it goes in then what is there to debate. No intent to gain an advantage shouldn't mean you lose the opportunity to score your penalty. i am surprised that anyone thinks changing the law isn't a sensible thing to do to avoid this happening again. (To anyone) But take the first touch away and god knows where the ball would have gone. If you want a rule change then it would have to be retake regardless of whether the ball goes in or not. For me though, it's football. These things happen. It's bad luck.
syston_fox Posted 13 May 2017 Posted 13 May 2017 Oh and anyone moaning about encroachment and keepers off their line.... ive just watched back the Kasper save against Sevilla and he was off his line and Huth and N'didi both had a foot in the box as the ball was struck. If that had been retaken and Sevilla had scored then I probably would have cried.
Manwell Pablo Posted 13 May 2017 Posted 13 May 2017 26 minutes ago, Chairman of the Bored said: The ref should have used his common sense and ruled that the second touch was involuntary and therefore not deliberate and allowed the goal to stand. Yeah but if he does that he's not applying the rules of the game, whether it is an accident or not. Changing the rules is one thing and arguing it should of been retaken is another but there is absolutely no arguement for allowing it to stand. He's there to enforce the rules not play god with them.
Manwell Pablo Posted 13 May 2017 Posted 13 May 2017 8 minutes ago, syston_fox said: Oh and anyone moaning about encroachment and keepers off their line.... ive just watched back the Kasper save against Sevilla and he was off his line and Huth and N'didi both had a foot in the box as the ball was struck. If that had been retaken and Sevilla had scored then I probably would have cried. Slimani is in the box when mahrez scores as well, so pretty sure it's a retake no matter the outcome.
Finnegan Posted 13 May 2017 Posted 13 May 2017 It should have been taken again because of encroachment and the keeper being a mile off his line but Riyad did fvck up and it technically wasn't a goal.
Ashley Posted 13 May 2017 Posted 13 May 2017 3 hours ago, Lionheart10 said: Your Nationality is determined by your place of birth mate not what National Team you play for,he was born in France which makes him French. So his parents aren't nothing to do with it mate?
Clever Fox Posted 13 May 2017 Posted 13 May 2017 I can see this reaching 100 pages and still no agreement.
Ashley Posted 13 May 2017 Posted 13 May 2017 4 hours ago, jammie82uk said: He's about as much Algerian as Wes Morgan is Jamaican Alergian and morrocan parents.. So yeah... Good comparison?
Manwell Pablo Posted 13 May 2017 Posted 13 May 2017 1 minute ago, Clever Fox said: I can see this reaching 100 pages and still no agreement. Its simple really he took two touches and was called up for it. You want to look at players in the box I'd imagine over half all have players in the box when the ball is struck, as syston has pointed out re the Sevilla penalty save no ones concerned when refs ignorance towards the rule goes in your favour.
st albans fox Posted 13 May 2017 Posted 13 May 2017 Shearer agrees with me ........ not sure if that's a good thing !
fazzyfox Posted 13 May 2017 Posted 13 May 2017 Isn't that Slimani on the far right, outside the box or is it Benny? He's leaning forwards but his feet are well outside and he doesn't look like any of him is in to me.
chapero82 Posted 13 May 2017 Posted 13 May 2017 5 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Shearer agrees with me ........ not sure if that's a good thing ! What did he say?
st albans fox Posted 13 May 2017 Posted 13 May 2017 2 minutes ago, chapero82 said: What did he say? He said the law should be amended to allow instances like today to mean the goal stands. (Or is retaken). He didn't go into that much detail!
Clever Fox Posted 13 May 2017 Posted 13 May 2017 6 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said: Its simple really he took two touches and was called up for it. You want to look at players in the box I'd imagine over half all have players in the box when the ball is struck, as syston has pointed out re the Sevilla penalty save no ones concerned when refs ignorance towards the rule goes in your favour. Maybe it's time the players are sent to the center circle while penalty kicks are being taken. That would comply with the Rule on encroachment. Then the Ref only has to watch the Goalkeeper and Kicker.
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