Micky Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 We have pocketed a shed load of cash from both the champions league and winning the title. We are still in a very good position to attract some real quality players yet it seems that we are going to do very little. I think we are in risk of missing a great opportunity and we may live to regret not being ambitious and taking some risks. Perhaps I am jumping the gun and maybe the club will surprise me in the coming weeks? If we lose Mahrez we suddenly become a very average team who will be battling at the bottom of the table. To add to this we have a very inexperienced manager. I am not feeling too optimistic about our future at the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLAN Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 Took enough risks last summer none of which seem to have worked out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 We may be being ambitions behind the scenes but it could be those players don't fancy coming to little ol Leicester, you only have to see Mahrez wanting to leave and players like Keane and Sigurdsson and preferring Everton to see that. We're not as attractive as some fans seem to think we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 I think, to try and give a reasonable response to this, it will take rather longer than any of us wants it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 Same type of thread, different day, it seems. Who knows? Seriously, I'm with you..I think our recruitment at LCFC is ok, but could be better. But there IS still nearly two weeks to go and anything can happen in that time. Mahrez is still here and we don't have to sell him So, chill yer beans. Watch and see if what you are thinking will happen, actually does. Cos it might not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSpaM Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 You don't need to spend 80 million on a single player to be competitive in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 6 minutes ago, Micky said: We have pocketed a shed load of cash from both the champions league and winning the title. We are still in a very good position to attract some real quality players yet it seems that we are going to do very little. I think we are in risk of missing a great opportunity and we may live to regret not being ambition and taking some risks. Perhaps I am jumping the gun and maybe the club will surprise me in the coming weeks? If we lose Mahrez we suddenly become a very average team who will be battling at the bottom of the table. To add to this we have a very inexperienced manager. I am not feeling too optimistic about our future at the minute. We've got the 6th highest net spend since the 14/15 season, we've started paying huge amounts in wages and bumped everyone's all at the same time. We also look likely to be adding another £25m to that, which would take us up to 4th highest net spend on the list (before any sales) We've taken risks, not many clubs our size spend £25m and £30m on players. Sadly, to date way too many of the purchases we've made haven't worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGLCFC Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 If we sign Ihaenacho, I think this would be a satisfactory pre season transfer dealings. We have a better back up keeper, Maguire looks like a starter and Iborra looks like he is an upgrade on King and possibly Mendy. Ihaenacho will be better than Okazaki in the number 10 role. There is still over a month to the close of the window and I would expect two or three more signings. If, as likely seems, Mahrez leaves, then it is vital to purchase a quality creative player. However, I suspect Shakespeare is totally aware of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 1 minute ago, Babylon said: We've got the 6th highest net spend since the 14/15 season, we've started paying huge amounts in wages and bumped everyone's all at the same time. We also look likely to be adding another £25m to that, which would take us up to 4th highest net spend on the list (before any sales) We've taken risks, not many clubs our size spend £25m and £30m on players. Sadly, to date way too many of the purchases we've made haven't worked out. You can prove ANYTHING with statistics... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheppyFox Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 I'll be livid if nacho is our last signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 I don't think the right people are behind the scenes right now for us to go out and take massive risks. The scouting team that put together our title winning team, on the most part aren't there anymore. Neither is Walsh who oversaw that team being put together. When those guys went out and signed a player, I felt good about it as i believed in them, I don't have the same confidence in Rudkin and our current scouting network. Is it possible that the owners don't have the same belief in our current lot to hand them the same freedom/cash to go out and take major risks. I reckon that they've took the safe approach and establish ourselves as a top half of the table team, build our backroom staff and the trust that the owners have in them before making another push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose2010 Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 4 minutes ago, SheppyFox said: I'll be livid if nacho is our last signing. Livid? really? you think the squad is worse than last season?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 We are a very average team anyway, with or without Mahrez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 Massively missed opportunity, we did the unimaginable and won the league. Teams have spent hundreds of millions and spent decades trying to achieve what we did who are far more established and far more resolutely built to achieve it. We turned up and did it, we ripped up the rule book. Sadly, we were in no way capable of remaining at the top, globally behind the scenes our directors and executives weren't cut out for taking us to the next level and we didn't act fast enough to bring in a chief exec and a DOF to cope with this. We had a small window of opportunity to gain ground on the elite and we missed it. Then you look at our recruitment team and our academy and both are nowhere near what you'd expect for a club that has won the biggest prize of all in English football, again we didn't act fast enough to cash in on our lofty status and get in some real clout with experience of being at the top. We knew what we'd achieved was nigh on a miracle and we'd not ever get there again without serious progression, but we made a horribly fist of trying to improve a team that was sporting gold. Our academy is also appallingly ran, it's job for the boys and until a certain regime is removed it'll not improve. We've quite a negative philosophy going on from academy to first team right now and there's certainly no real desire to give these kids the platform and belief to get an opportunity in our first team. Harvey Barnes is the most recent example, it's beggars belief he's not had any minutes with the first team in a match this summer, shocking. Sent instead to play some 50 minute matches in some dog shit tournament in France, well done. The signings we made last summer are scary, especially when you consider how methodical and shrewd we seemed to be in the Pearson and Walsh era. It was as if we genuinely had no idea what sort of calibre signing we needed to go for now we were in the Champions League. I'd actually rather we'd stuck to what we knew best in signings made under Pearson but we seemed to go for the players who'd done well in crap leagues like Russia, Portugal and Poland and hoped for the best. Not a single one of them has really improved the XI we've now had for several years, an XI that is getting very old and familiar especially at the back. I also think we're now at a cross roads, we properly need to rebuild but we've a manager who's probably not brave enough to completely change things. He's allegiances to so many of these players and has been their mate as well during his time as assistant manager. I think the magic has worn off this rags to riches team and I don't see us being successful again without change. Our style of play is becoming easily thwarted and out thought, our real only source of creativity is soon to leave and we're now on our 3rd manager who doesn't seem to think we need competition at right back, more than 1 token creative player or somebody who is dangerous at set pieces. Right now I'm about as negative as I've ever been going in to a new season since probably the 13/14 which we won at a canter, so hopefully I'm made a mug of here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitchandro Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 The missed opportunity was last summer. Still, we need to be doing more than we are at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentFox Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 16 minutes ago, Babylon said: We've got the 6th highest net spend since the 14/15 season, we've started paying huge amounts in wages and bumped everyone's all at the same time. We also look likely to be adding another £25m to that, which would take us up to 4th highest net spend on the list (before any sales) We've taken risks, not many clubs our size spend £25m and £30m on players. Sadly, to date way too many of the purchases we've made haven't worked out. Assuming I'm right that green is sales out, apart from Kante, where the heck has that money come from since 14/15??? Who have I forgotten about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 17 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said: You can prove ANYTHING with statistics... 87.9% of statistics are made up. Fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicesterlad1989 Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 In hindsight you have to blame the poor recruitment last summer. It's had a negative effect on this one. We massively overspent on players that simply were not ready for top flight English football or they aren't good enough. If you look at the signings made, you can see why they were made: Musa - Competition for Vardy Slimani - Upgrade on Ulloa Mendy - Replace Kante A bloody lot of money went into those and they haven't paid off to date. Still time though. As stated elsewhere I believe Slimani has a future here. This summer I think we have been a lot more reserved with our spending. Trying to get the right players that have experience in the top flight or at the highest level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Nacho Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 The opportunity was missed last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wardyfox86 Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 8 minutes ago, TrentFox said: Assuming I'm right that green is sales out, apart from Kante, where the heck has that money come from since 14/15??? Who have I forgotten about? Schlupp, Nugent, De Laet, Zieler, Moore. Still not sure it equates to £60m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentFox Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 Schlupp!!!! Completely forgot that! Was Krama in that time-frame, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 16 minutes ago, TrentFox said: Assuming I'm right that green is sales out, apart from Kante, where the heck has that money come from since 14/15??? Who have I forgotten about? Kante, Schlupp, Kramaric, Wood, Nugent, Zieler, Moore, Inler, De Laet, Hernandez. Just small amounts mostly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnup Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 There's also a month left. A whole month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volpeazzurro Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 Our two signings thus far and the potential signing of Iheanacho are good business for us I think. But we face the same problems as last year. You can't buy what a club won't sell. You can't buy a player who doesn't want to come. You can't buy outside what you consider your budget to be. The second is the biggest one for me even for last season. Despite our premiership title we are still not seen as a big club with longevity (hence Kante's move and he was proved right). We are neither a London club or Man Utd, Leicester is a dump. We can offer some higher wages than others and that does offer some benefit. Bigger players like Greizman or Lukaku and Pogba are never going to come here at this stage of their careers so we have to chose in the case of foreign players, those who we are willing to take a risk on and visa versa. None of us know who our club are currently targeting or have targeted In the past. Who knows how ambitious they have been, we'd probably be quite suprised! It's all speculation and complex two faced dodgy dealing by controlling agents it would seem half the time. Smoke and mirrors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheppyFox Posted 31 July 2017 Share Posted 31 July 2017 50 minutes ago, goose2010 said: Livid? really? you think the squad is worse than last season?! Who's mentioning last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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