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[Heathrow fox]

7 hours ago, Carl the Llama said:

He always comes across as a nice guy who gets very passionate during the game to me.

He definitely has that winning mentality in him.Which we really have benefited from.I remember seeing him play at Aldershot.,when he had his Notts County spell.Notts won and he kept a clean sheet.To celebrate he started doing push-ups on the cross bar.He was very happy.I remember being impressed with his attitude because he was obviously streets ahead of tier 4.

[Nalis]

On 09/08/2021 at 16:21, RoboFox said:

The Forum Support section of FT is easily the most entertaining part of this site. It often gets overlooked.

 

Pure popcorn stuff.

 

Dipped into it and bloody hell you are right.

Edited 10 August 2021 by Nalis
Edited - on reflection its best not to go into detail!

[RoboFox]

20 minutes ago, Nalis said:

Dipped into it and bloody hell you are right.

There's been some classic kick offs in there. Usually stems from people asking why they've been banned. 

[The Bear]

7 minutes ago, RoboFox said:

There's been some classic kick offs in there. Usually stems from people asking why they've been banned. 

When I first started contributing on here more regularly I'd get into some minor arguments on some Wolves/Leicester back and forth and I'd have to bite my tongue because common sense tells me I'm not going to win. At times I'd still end up having my posting limited or (IIRC) banned for 24 hours or a bit longer. 

 

Ultimately I'm well aware I'm basically an away fan mingling with the home fans outside the King Power on a matchday. There's no point arguing the toss with people, and I'm aware I'll get the occasional joke or mild dig in my direction.

 

I'm mature enough to accept that dynamic and just try and have a laugh about it rather than argue the toss. 

[peach0000]

Some of the stuff Union FS do is slightly cringey. 

[Izzy]

58 minutes ago, peach0000 said:

Some of the stuff Union FS do is slightly cringey. 

I thought this about 6 years ago but I've completely changed my mind now. I used to think they were just a bunch of wannabe ultras but the more I understood what they're doing and why they're doing it, I was totally on board.

 

I couldn't get to the CL games a few years back so ended up donating quite a bit to the TIFO fund and was delighted that I did. I think they did a great job on those and it really made a difference. Fair play to them I say.

[Unabomber]

1 hour ago, peach0000 said:

Some of the stuff Union FS do is slightly cringey. 

Like what? 

[peach0000]

1 minute ago, Izzy said:

I thought this about 6 years ago but I've completely changed my mind now. I used to think they were just a bunch of wannabe ultras but the more I understood what they're doing and why they're doing it, I was totally on board.

 

I couldn't get to the CL games a few years back so ended up donating quite a bit to the TIFO fund and was delighted that I did. I think they did a great job on those and it really made a difference. Fair play to them I say.

I have no issue with the Tifos and that kind of stuff. But the wannabe ultra feeling you had in the past is my current feelings to be honest. Its the same with the ones down at palace. Just not my cup of tea. I think it's way more meaningful when things happen organically that when it's all heavily organised and orchestrated. 

[peach0000]

1 minute ago, Unabomber said:

Like what? 

Explained in the post above. It's not everything, just some of the marches and singing sections and organised stuff is a bit over the top for my liking. Also I think sometimes their small signing sections harm the atmosphere of games as everyone who want to create atmosphere (the instigators) are all in the same section and it discourages other areas as there's no one to start it. 

[Heathrow fox]

I like Nick Grimshaw and will be sorry to see him leave Radio 1 tomorrow.

[Finnegan]

The VAR changes this season are exactly what BT and Sky have been fishing for and all of us as fans outside the big six should be cautious about that. 

 

Throwing in ideas like "thicker lines" and "benefit of the doubt" to offside calls opens up subjectivity and grey areas that enables a pattern of bias back towards the big clubs, especially in time for capacity crowds to be back at their biggest grounds leaning on refs. 

 

Having VAR "dialled back" from non offside issues also gives way more scope to just not overturn an original refs decision and widen the band of what is and isn't "clear and obvious" which was a major problem with VAR anyway. 

 

The only positive change I see in the agenda for this year isn't actually a VAR prompt but one for officials in general and that's to lean away from giving light contact, trivial penalties. 

 

VAR needed alteration, definitely, no argument from me. But this was the wrong way to do it and feels like doubling down on the things that were making it poor whilst superficially appealing to fans by saying it'll be quicker and less disruptive. 

[lcfc278]

1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

The VAR changes this season are exactly what BT and Sky have been fishing for and all of us as fans outside the big six should be cautious about that. 

 

Throwing in ideas like "thicker lines" and "benefit of the doubt" to offside calls opens up subjectivity and grey areas that enables a pattern of bias back towards the big clubs, especially in time for capacity crowds to be back at their biggest grounds leaning on refs. 

 

Having VAR "dialled back" from non offside issues also gives way more scope to just not overturn an original refs decision and widen the band of what is and isn't "clear and obvious" which was a major problem with VAR anyway. 

 

The only positive change I see in the agenda for this year isn't actually a VAR prompt but one for officials in general and that's to lean away from giving light contact, trivial penalties. 

 

VAR needed alteration, definitely, no argument from me. But this was the wrong way to do it and feels like doubling down on the things that were making it poor whilst superficially appealing to fans by saying it'll be quicker and less disruptive. 

I don't see why the PL don't just use VAR the way it has been used at the last two major tournaments, the Euros and Russia 2018.

 

I think in both those tournaments it was used almost perfectly. You'll always have one or two incidents that are open to interpretation but for the most part, they didn't detract from the game whereas in the PL it became almost a constant distraction from the game.

 

The overall standard of refereeing is another topic but one that needs addressing in England - we always used to have a wide selection of top class referees but now it feels like we have some of the poorest which for a leage like the PL in particular is a shambles - needs addressing urgently.

[RonnieTodger]

12 hours ago, peach0000 said:

I have no issue with the Tifos and that kind of stuff. But the wannabe ultra feeling you had in the past is my current feelings to be honest. Its the same with the ones down at palace. Just not my cup of tea. I think it's way more meaningful when things happen organically that when it's all heavily organised and orchestrated. 

It rarely ever happens organically, which is probably why they create these sections. Our support is one of the worst in the Premier League. We might turn up in numbers, but not vocally. 

[peach0000]

53 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said:

It rarely ever happens organically, which is probably why they create these sections. Our support is one of the worst in the Premier League. We might turn up in numbers, but not vocally. 

It’s got worse since union FS showed up, especially at away games.

[TiffToff88]

Unpopular opinion:

 

Politically speaking, the BBC are as neutral as you can get. The right think the BBC are on the left, the left think the BBC are on the right.

 

It's just like a football match. The referee calls the game straight down the middle and both sets of fans come away from the game thinking the ref was biased against them

 

[Fox92]

1 hour ago, RonnieTodger said:

It rarely ever happens organically, which is probably why they create these sections. Our support is one of the worst in the Premier League. We might turn up in numbers, but not vocally. 

We seem to in the lead up to the game, pubs, trains, concourse but not actually in the ground.

 

On way to Wembley on Sat I was in the same tube and one group wouldn't stop singing. Not a problem to me but it never seems to happen in the ground.

[SemperEadem]

38 minutes ago, peach0000 said:

It’s got worse since union FS showed up, especially at away games.

Well thats on other people isn't it

[peach0000]

1 minute ago, SemperEadem said:

Well thats on other people isn't it

Not really as they always go on about wanting to create atmosphere while harming it. They tried to fix a problem that didn't need fixing in my experience. But anyway that was just a bit of a side point that wasn't really related to my key point. That some of the things they do are cringey! Just trying too hard to be ultras and copying European fan culture. European fan culture and copycat European style ultra groups are just not part and have never really been part of the culture here until about 10 years ago. It's too much and no one will convince me otherwise. 

[SemperEadem]

4 minutes ago, peach0000 said:

Not really as they always go on about wanting to create atmosphere while harming it. They tried to fix a problem that didn't need fixing in my experience. But anyway that was just a bit of a side point that wasn't really related to my key point. That some of the things they do are cringey! Just trying too hard to be ultras and copying European fan culture. European fan culture and copycat European style ultra groups are just not part and have never really been part of the culture here until about 10 years ago. It's too much and no one will convince me otherwise. 

UFS are harming the atmosphere? 
That’s a new one. You wrote earlier that they *too* many people singing together now. I struggle to see how a strong group of singers together damages the atmosphere. Thats only like it ever was in the pen days at Filbert Street.
 

Contradiction made by yourself in saying the European fan culture is not your bag but then saying how you like the TIFO’s?

[peach0000]

6 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

UFS are harming the atmosphere? 
That’s a new one. You wrote earlier that they *too* many people singing together now. I struggle to see how a strong group of singers together damages the atmosphere. Thats only like it ever was in the pen days at Filbert Street.
 

Contradiction made by yourself in saying the European fan culture is not your bag but then saying how you like the TIFO’s?

I'm a walking contradiction sometime 

 

It's just my opinion. I find it means the singing is left to the singing section and doesn't spread throughout like it used to. Plus the Union FS sections are always small. 

[Fox92]

53 minutes ago, TiffToff88 said:

Unpopular opinion:

 

Politically speaking, the BBC are as neutral as you can get. The right think the BBC are on the left, the left think the BBC are on the right.

 

It's just like a football match. The referee calls the game straight down the middle and both sets of fans come away from the game thinking the ref was biased against them

 

Yep. Always thought this.

 

BBC have provided us with great dramas and some of the greatest comedy of all time. That's on top of all kinds of sport including Wimbledon, World Cup etc.

 

I don't knock them.

[Filbert_Ross]

Naan bread with a curry ain't all that. 

Rather have it with just rice. 

[TiffToff88]

4 minutes ago, Filbert_Ross said:

Naan bread with a curry ain't all that. 

Rather have it with just rice. 

You've obviously never had a chilli and cheese naan then!

[Filbert_Ross]

Just now, TiffToff88 said:

You've obviously never had a chilli and cheese naan then!

 I have. It's not that I don't like the taste etc. 
I just find them a bit much & too filling along with curry & rice. 
 

some of my mates rather have a curry & naan with no rice. I'd always choose rice over naan

[The Bear]

Naan's are often too thick and dry for me as well. Like you say, too filling. 

 

I'd much rather have a paratha or chapati.