Unpopular Opinions You Hold

[Guest Manini]

39 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

As a cricket fan, I really dislike Lord's.

I like that they let you take in a bottle of wine or 4 cans as part of your packed lunch (in the most non-british piss head way possible, I just like being given that freedom). I enjoy Trent Bridge or Headingley more for watching the game though I think - I always think lords is more about it being at lords than the actual game. There’s always loads of other stuff going on, usually in areas where there’s no view of the pitch too. 

[Footballwipe]

52 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

It's insane the amount of blokes that do this on city away days. 

 

You've paid for an away ticket, you've paid to cross the county to go and see city, then you stand in the concourse getting shit faced on expensive stadium beer. And you do this every other week. 

 

It must cost a fortune and you see so little of the game you'd have been better off just down your local. 

 

Would love to know how much it costs them across a season. 

Went to Man City away in 16-17 (was in May I think). Group of lads came piling in on kick off all tanked up having a chat and barely watching the game. Nothing new there.

 

Man City scored about half an hour in and four of them immediately left the stadium and went back to the pub. 

[Voll Blau]

46 minutes ago, Manini said:

I like that they let you take in a bottle of wine or 4 cans as part of your packed lunch (in the most non-british piss head way possible, I just like being given that freedom). I enjoy Trent Bridge or Headingley more for watching the game though I think - I always think lords is more about it being at lords than the actual game. There’s always loads of other stuff going on, usually in areas where there’s no view of the pitch too. 

I just dislike the self-importance of the place and, as mentioned, the types who turn up to games there. There was a lot of chat about how stewards were constantly having to retrieve champagne corks from the outfield over the past couple of days because it's seen as some kind of great lark to do it. Imagine the fury if that was lads cobbing plastic beer cups on to the pitch instead?

 

It's easily my least favourite of the six traditional Test grounds in England.

[Dunge]

57 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

I just dislike the self-importance of the place and, as mentioned, the types who turn up to games there. There was a lot of chat about how stewards were constantly having to retrieve champagne corks from the outfield over the past couple of days because it's seen as some kind of great lark to do it. Imagine the fury if that was lads cobbing plastic beer cups on to the pitch instead?

 

It's easily my least favourite of the six traditional Test grounds in England.

I think I have similar issues with other places that would declare themselves to be “the home of” a sport - Lords, Wembley, Twickenham, St. Andrews, all carrying with them a kind of snobbery and whacking up the prices because of it to keep out the riffraff. None of it feels very welcoming considering these sports are supposed to be played and enjoyed by everyone.

 

The one I’d probably give a pass to is Wimbledon, but that’s partly because they’re the only major tennis tournament who have made the effort to stick with a grass surface, much for the benefit of the sport and its audience. Plus they’re at least aware enough to provide tickets through clubs, encourage viewing from the hill and keep their tournament on the BBC rather than selling out to Sky.

Edited 16 August 2021 by Dunge

[Voll Blau]

1 minute ago, Dunge said:

I think I have similar issues with other places that would declare themselves to be “the home of” a sport - Lords, Wembley, Twickenham, St. Andrews, all carrying with them a kind of snobbery and whacking up the prices because of it to keep out the riffraff. None of it feels very welcoming considering these sports are supposed to be played and enjoyed by everyone.

 

The one I’d probably give a pass to is Wimbledon, but that’s partly because they’re the only major tennis tournament who have made the effort to stick with a grass surface, much for the benefit of the sport and its audience. Plus they’re at least aware enough to provide tickets through clubs, encourage viewing from the hill and keep their tournament on the BBC rather than selling out to Sky.

This is what really grates with me. Yeah, sure I get the MCC's place in the history of cricket but The Oval and Old Trafford both hosted Tests here before Lord's did. Given The Oval's role in the early FA Cups too it's clearly a more important venue in the history of English sport for me.

[The People's Hero]

Ah, but LORDS is home to the MCC!

 

 

[Izzy]

43 minutes ago, Dunge said:

I think I have similar issues with other places that would declare themselves to be “the home of” a sport - Lords, Wembley, Twickenham, St. Andrews, all carrying with them a kind of snobbery and whacking up the prices because of it to keep out the riffraff. None of it feels very welcoming considering these sports are supposed to be played and enjoyed by everyone.

Bit harsh on St Andrews as it's still a public course and open to all (Unlike Muirfield for example which is so far up it's own arse it only recognized women members about 5 years ago when it was threatened to be taken off the Open rota)

 

 

Edited 16 August 2021 by Izzy

[An Away Move]

I can literally see Lords out of my window. I was cycling through the crowd after the first day and it made me feel quite working class, in that the ratio of well dressed educated tanned types was quite high and they felt quite a bit other to me! It’s funny how class permeates through different sports. 

Edited 16 August 2021 by SydenhamFox

[Clogger_]

14 minutes ago, SydenhamFox said:

I can literally see Lords out of my window. I was cycling through the crowd after the first day and it made me feel quite working class, in that the ratio of well dressed educated tanned types was quite high and they felt quite a bit other to me! It’s funny how class permeates through different sports. 

If you live near Lords, I'm guessing you are far from working class! 

[An Away Move]

6 minutes ago, Clogger_ said:

If you live near Lords, I'm guessing you are far from working class! 

I live with my girlfriend who’s flat is close to Lords. I was born and raised in Thurnby Lodge, which is ALWAYS with me even when I experience swanky things and appear to be archetypal middle class!

Edited 16 August 2021 by SydenhamFox

[HighPeakFox]

21 minutes ago, SydenhamFox said:

I can literally see Lords out of my window. I was cycling through the crowd after the first day and it made me feel quite working class, in that the ratio of well dressed educated tanned types was quite high and they felt quite a bit other to me! It’s funny how class permeates through different sports. 

Careful, you'll have the experts on class down on you like a tonne of bricks 

[Clogger_]

15 minutes ago, SydenhamFox said:

I live with my girlfriend who’s flat is close to Lords. I was born and raised in Thurnby Lodge, which is ALWAYS with me even when I experience swanky things and appear to be archetypal middle class!

Nice area! Personally enjoy a day at Lords. I view the members with curiosity... A bit like a museum exhibit. They certainly appreciate their wine! 

[UpTheLeagueFox]

19 hours ago, TrickyTrev Benjamin said:

Foxestalk doesn’t represent a majority of the Leicester fans who actually go games. 

Or how the country votes politically 

 

3 hours ago, The People's Hero said:

I went to day 1 at Lords on Corporate and about 70% of the guys invited spent their time quaffing champagne and watched barely any cricket. I like cricket so I had a few beers and watched the match.

I think this is part of the issue with Lords. It attracts a lot of people who don't really care about the cricket; but like putting on orange chinos and a button down collar shirt and drinking over-priced Moet.

 

[HighPeakFox]

8 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

Or how the country votes politically 

Why do you bother doing this, Djeffff? All it does is encourage someone with absolutely little self-awareness and knowledge.

[Clogger_]

22 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

Why do you bother doing this, Djeffff? All it does is encourage someone with absolutely little self-awareness and knowledge.

You have just described talkSPORT

Edited 16 August 2021 by Clogger_

[TrickyTrev Benjamin]

1 hour ago, HighPeakFox said:

Careful, you'll have the experts on class down on you like a tonne of bricks 

I’m sorry I’ve offended you. I actually didn’t say anything bad about being middle class apart from it’s ruined football crowds. Football was for many years a sport for working class people to attend on a Saturday. 
 

Cricket in my opinion is the biggest middle class sport ever and no offence to all the cricket fans on here. Tennis, cricket and rugby always been white middle class sports. What I love about football, it’s open to anyone and everyone. How many council estate born and bred rugby , cricket or rugby players do you get ? 

[SouthStandUpperTier]

3 minutes ago, TrickyTrev Benjamin said:

I’m sorry I’ve offended you. I actually didn’t say anything bad about being middle class apart from it’s ruined football crowds. Football was for many years a sport for working class people to attend on a Saturday. 
 

Cricket in my opinion is the biggest middle class sport ever and no offence to all the cricket fans on here. Tennis, cricket and rugby always been white middle class sports. What I love about football, it’s open to anyone and everyone. How many council estate born and bred rugby , cricket or rugby players do you get ? 

Nowadays? More than you would think.

[HighPeakFox]

1 minute ago, TrickyTrev Benjamin said:

I’m sorry I’ve offended you. I actually didn’t say anything bad about being middle class apart from it’s ruined football crowds. Football was for many years a sport for working class people to attend on a Saturday. 
 

Cricket in my opinion is the biggest middle class sport ever and no offence to all the cricket fans on here. Tennis, cricket and rugby always been white middle class sports. What I love about football, it’s open to anyone and everyone. How many council estate born and bred rugby , cricket or rugby players do you get ? 

I'm not offended. Indeed I'm not offended by very much at all, but I just dislike huge sweeping statements based in ignorance. I do understand you mean well, but part of the reason class stereotypes and 'differences' exist is because it suits the rich well to play those less well off than them to fight amongst themselves. I totally accept that football was originally popularised by the working class, but society has moved on. The less we insist on the same hackneyed old perceptions, the better - and that goes for all social classes, in case you think I'm pointing the finger. 

[Buce]

2 hours ago, HighPeakFox said:

Careful, you'll have the experts on class down on you like a tonne of bricks 

 

Right yer are, Guvna', proper toff yer are.

[Clogger_]

48 minutes ago, TrickyTrev Benjamin said:

I’m sorry I’ve offended you. I actually didn’t say anything bad about being middle class apart from it’s ruined football crowds. Football was for many years a sport for working class people to attend on a Saturday. 
 

Cricket in my opinion is the biggest middle class sport ever and no offence to all the cricket fans on here. Tennis, cricket and rugby always been white middle class sports. What I love about football, it’s open to anyone and everyone. How many council estate born and bred rugby , cricket or rugby players do you get ? 

Huh? Cricket a 'white' sport??? 

[SpacedX]

1 hour ago, TrickyTrev Benjamin said:

I’m sorry I’ve offended you. I actually didn’t say anything bad about being middle class apart from it’s ruined football crowds. Football was for many years a sport for working class people to attend on a Saturday. 
 

Cricket in my opinion is the biggest middle class sport ever and no offence to all the cricket fans on here. Tennis, cricket and rugby always been white middle class sports. What I love about football, it’s open to anyone and everyone. How many council estate born and bred rugby , cricket or rugby players do you get ? 

Interesting that you keep mentioning "offence". Why do you regard "middle class" as a pejorative term?

[The People's Hero]

24 minutes ago, Clogger_ said:

Huh? Cricket a 'white' sport??? 

Ah the great white Indian, Pakistani and West Indian sides!

 

Lets give discussing white/black and South Africa a miss!

[fuchsntf]

1 hour ago, TrickyTrev Benjamin said:

I’m sorry I’ve offended you. I actually didn’t say anything bad about being middle class apart from it’s ruined football crowds. Football was for many years a sport for working class people to attend on a Saturday. 
 

Cricket in my opinion is the biggest middle class sport ever and no offence to all the cricket fans on here. Tennis, cricket and rugby always been white middle class sports. What I love about football, it’s open to anyone and everyone. How many council estate born and bred rugby , cricket or rugby players do you get ? 

Played..cricket, Rugby,athletics, for and against & across various Working class School playing fields..

Rugby & cricket just Two of many sports, where a Working-Class lad & his boss / Councils House tennant- Mansion-house,ground owner, can Mix it,

Be mates, Wclass lad Captain his social higher peers, without any anymosity, or tell each other your a dick..!!!

[FoxesDeb]

1 hour ago, TrickyTrev Benjamin said:

I’m sorry I’ve offended you. I actually didn’t say anything bad about being middle class apart from it’s ruined football crowds. Football was for many years a sport for working class people to attend on a Saturday. 
 

Cricket in my opinion is the biggest middle class sport ever and no offence to all the cricket fans on here. Tennis, cricket and rugby always been white middle class sports. What I love about football, it’s open to anyone and everyone. How many council estate born and bred rugby , cricket or rugby players do you get ? 

Why would anyone be offended by being called middle class? 

 

And since when has cricket been a 'white' sport? Unless you are referring to the clothes they wear? 

 

I am genuinely confused 

 

[Clogger_]

20 minutes ago, The People's Hero said:

Ah the great white Indian, Pakistani and West Indian sides!

 

Lets give discussing white/black and South Africa a miss!

I've been bowled out by people from all backgrounds. Black, white, rich, poor, male, female... They've all been too good for me! I don't discriminate