Kalacs_Orthopedic_Shoe Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 Every year the magic of the F.A Cup is brought into question, so found this article about Spain's premier domestic cup extremely interesting. For me the F.A Cup remains one of my biggest football fantasies, more so than European honors. It's the embodiment of everything that is important to me about football, but how important to us, as Leicester fans, is it? Four finals with still nothing to show for it - a competition record I understand. A lot of people said do what you want with us, cast us back to the wastelands for another decade, just let us win this Division One. Thankfully the emotional knee jerk comments meant nothing, we achieved greatness and without paying for it with all the things we uttered we'd give up for such a moment; but what would we sacrifice? Top flight status? Guess I'm just wondering do we still feel a tingle for this old lady? http://www.umaxit.com/index.php/columns/if-you-think-the-magic-of-the-fa-cup-is-dead-look-at-spains-copa-del-rey Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
Guest Col city fan Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 Just now, AKCJ said: We only need an FA Cup to complete football IMO. I would agree with this. As a kid I was brought up with the FA cup and every round was a big event on the old Beeb. If we win the FA cup, having won the League Cup and the league, it would be the icing on the cake. I'd love to go to Wembley (I'd go for the semi but I've never thought the semi final should be at Wembley) but to see us lift the FA cup at Wembley would render my support of LCFC complete.
davieG Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 Even Cov have won it. It annoys me massively to have not won it but also to be the team that has failed 4 times at the final hurdle.
m4DD0gg Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 2 hours ago, AKCJ said: We only need an FA Cup to complete football IMO. Agreed, domestically the only thing we are missing and i hope to see it in my life time.
Wymsey Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 Paul Merson thinks the Carabao Cup is better than the FA Cup.. I disagree as, even though if we win the former - progress to European competition - the FA Cup is well-known globally and is a key-part of British football. The Carabao is just, based on the rather odd cup draws, a new big brand that wants to let everyone know who they are and put their name on a cup competition that is, to some, a secondary one compared to the FA Cup.
joachim1965 Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 56 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said: Paul Merson thinks the Carabao Cup is better than the FA Cup.. I disagree as, even though if we win the former - progress to European competition - the FA Cup is well-known globally and is a key-part of British football. The Carabao is just, based on the rather odd cup draws, a new big brand that wants to let everyone know who they are and put their name on a cup competition that is, to ALL a secondary one compared to the FA Cup. Fixed.
joachim1965 Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 FA cup will always be magical to me, it used to be the only live domestic game on tv. That made it special.
Rogstanley Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 Would love to win it, but thinking about say the last ten minutes of an FA Cup final at 1-0 up and under the cosh, vs the biggest moments of the 15/16 run in, would the former provide the same bone-trembling combination of sheer thrill and absolute terror as the latter? Probably not for me. I’d say it would feel on par with a play off final, but wouldn’t come close to the league win. We’ve already completed football.
Mike Oxlong Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 Devalued for me by a lot of PL teams giving it a low priority until the later rounds. Would like to see the winner given a CL place to reignite the competition and so there could be a prospect of the likes of Tranmere playing at the Nou Camp.
Kitchandro Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 It's definitely not what it used to be. If clubs don't take it seriously, it's hard for fans to take it seriously. For example, I know we're going to play a despicable second team with Ulloa and Slimani up front together. I'm not paying to watch that. Treat it as a competitive match, and I'll go. But it's the biggest trophy we can realistically win (yeh yeh I know) so of course, it has to be a big deal when we get to the latter stages. If we won it I'd be extremely proud. But until then... The problem is, look at the crowds. It's very easy for people on TV to go 'who says the magic of the cup is lost?!' when some little team from the Isthmian League South Division gets a draw away at Villa or pack a garden shed at home to Man City. But what about all the other fixtures on that weekend? 2 Championship teams draws 4 figure crowds. Even Premiership teams, we're talking 15,000 maybe? That's what the magic of the cup was - when it was the biggest game of the season for everyone. When attendance records were broken, full houses everywhere. The general fan of league teams just isn't bothered any more, and I blame the clubs for both devaluing it and allowing ticket prices to become unaffordable. People actually resent paying for a cup ticket, and that is how sad it's become.
Fox92 Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 This is the one. I've always wanted us to win it. The competition will never not be special to me.
Jimothy Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 2 hours ago, m4DD0gg said: Agreed, domestically the only thing we are missing and i hope to see it in my life time. Need League 2 as well
bovril Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 I really want us to win, but it's not the same as it once was. Part of the problem is the BBC patronising it, shoving 'the magic' down our throat (no sniggering on the back) at every available opportunity. Hyde vs Wimbledon. The Magic! FEEL THE ****ING MAGIC. Let's get a yoof to do the voice over for the trailer cos it's MAGIC and REAL goddamnit.
fuchsntf Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 1 hour ago, Kitchandro said: It's definiertely not what it used to be. yIf clubs don't take it seriously, it's hard for fans to take it seriously. For example, I know we're going to play a despicable second team with Ulloa and Slimani up front together. I'm not paying to watch that. Treat it as a competitive match, and I'll go. But it's the biggest trophy we can realistically win (yeh yeh I know) so of course, it has to be a big deal when we get to the latter stages. If we won it I'd be extremely proud. But until then... The problem is, look at the crowds. It's very easy for people on TV to go 'who says the magic of the cup is lost?!' when some little team from the Isthmian League South Division gets a draw away at Villa or pack a garden shed at home to Man City. But what about all the other fixtures on that weekend? 2 Championship teams draws 4 figure crowds. Even Premiership teams, we're talking 15,000 maybe? That's what the magic of the cup was - when it was the biggest game of the season for everyone. When attendance records were broken, full houses everywhere. The general fan of league teams just isn't bothered any more, and I blame the clubs for both devaluing it and allowing ticket prices to become unaffordable. People actually resent paying for a cup ticket, and that is how sad it's become. You miserable, grumpy old man, but every word of it, true very true....sadly
BoyJones Posted 30 October 2017 Posted 30 October 2017 6 hours ago, Wymeswold fox said: Paul Merson thinks the Carabao Cup is better than the FA Cup.. I disagree as, even though if we win the former - progress to European competition - the FA Cup is well-known globally and is a key-part of British football. The Carabao is just, based on the rather odd cup draws, a new big brand that wants to let everyone know who they are and put their name on a cup competition that is, to some, a secondary one compared to the FA Cup. Maybe he's back on drugs. As an old timer, the FA Cup is key to me. From the late 60's I have been to places like Barrow in Furness, Harlow?, Walsall, etc., desperate for us to do well. My first 10 years suppporting city, think we got to the quarter final five or six times. Listening to the cup draw on radio was a real highlight of the season. You didn't know the numbers in advance, although we were always around number 21. The TV draws don't have the same drama, which is half the problem. Being selfish, if someone said you can win the fa cup but get relegated, I would accept it. We always come back. In fact, I feel sorry for supporters who have never experienced a promotion winning season, it's a great feeling, fantastic away days. Take Everton, would you swap our last 20 years for their last 20 boring, just plodding along, winning nothing seasons. Much prefer two relegations, two promotions, champions of England - NO CONTEST. Once again, I am praying this is our season to do it.
Finnegan Posted 31 October 2017 Posted 31 October 2017 If they want the cup to have meaning, either bring back the Cup Winners Cup, pump it full of TV reward money and have the winner go to the Champions League OR stop fourth place in the league getting in the CL and send the FA Cup winner instead. Clubs need incentives these days, that'd do it.
Captain... Posted 31 October 2017 Posted 31 October 2017 I know the right answer, and I would love to feel that there is still magic in the FA cup, but I find it hard to get excited about the early rounds, possibly because they come so late in the season and are always in amongst the busy festive period. The main priority is not to get any of your first teamers injured and not end up with a replay. The league cup, which is clearly an inferior competition, at least starts early and your squad aren't knackered, it gives you a chance to see your new signings that haven't made an impact on the first team, and a few kids that have shown promise in pre-season. FA Cup early rounds are normally "roll out the stiffs" to give the first team a rest and hope to god we don't draw. I know replays are part and parcel of the FA cup magic, but really they become a distraction and later rounds clash with league games and it all just seems rather inconvenient, until you get to the semi final. Even playing at Wembley is devalued due to Semi finals and Spurs playing there. Spain and the Copa Del Rey is a 2 leg midweek affair, it doesn't impact the league and doesn't require shuffling the pack, only if you are also in Europe would you perhaps suffer in Spain with a cup run. The other difference in Spain is that there are clubs that know they won't win the league and know they won't get relegated and it gives their season more purpose. The Premier League is so competitive that everyone bar the big 6 can end up in a relegation battle. I know it is sacrilege to mess with the oldest cup competition in the world, but unless something is done, either with the format or the prize (as Finnegan suggested above) it will always been seen as a bit of a nuisance to all those that are fighting for something in the league or in Europe.
Webbo Posted 31 October 2017 Posted 31 October 2017 The Cup Winners Cup became redundant as soon as the European Cup was expanded into the Champions League. If the 2 finalists were in the top 4 they'd obviously prefer to be in the Champions league. Winning the cup earns you a place in the Europa League from which you can qualify into the CL by winning, which I think is fair.
Voll Blau Posted 31 October 2017 Posted 31 October 2017 Absolutely still has it for me. Third Round draw/day are the highlights of my footballing calendar each year. I just love it. Really get the feeling that now we've won the league, more Leicester fans seem to be more interested in us taking it seriously to "complete the set" domestically. Hopefully Big Claude feels the same way, and he does have form for getting to Cup finals...
Izzy Posted 31 October 2017 Posted 31 October 2017 Man Utd should never have been allowed to withdraw from the FA Cup in 99/00 to play in the world club champs. With that, the introduction of a sponsor and the semis being played at Wembley, it’s never been the same for me. Real shame as the FA Cup is revered around the world yet hardly respected in England any more. Unless the winner is given a CL place I can’t ever see it recovering. Still desperately want to win it though!!
Chico1958 Posted 2 November 2017 Posted 2 November 2017 To be fair as I started following Leicester after 1-0 loss to Man City 1969 It's the only thing left that I would really love to see before I leave this mortal coil 2019, 50 years v Man City 1-0 to LCFC would be good. RIP Neil Young
Manwell Pablo Posted 3 November 2017 Posted 3 November 2017 It'd be nice to win the FA cup and far from impossible, but if you're not completely satisfied with winning the Premier League as as good as it gets for a Leicester City fan in this day and age then I'd say your in a dream world personally. We achieved something that may never be done again until the financial landscape of football changes dramatically. I still maintain we could go back down to League One and I'd struggle to complain about it too much.
fuchsntf Posted 3 November 2017 Posted 3 November 2017 On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 09:35, Finnegan said: If they want the cup to have meaning, either bring back the Cup Winners Cup, pump it full of TV reward money and have the winner go to the Champions League OR stop fourth place in the league getting in the CL and send the FA Cup winner instead. Clubs need incentives these days, that'd do it. Agree 100%. I always wanted to see only top 2 teams in the CL. Then have the 2 cups in each country, be the backdoor for the CL. If not then the FA-cup only CL and "league-cups" for the 2nd European competition.UEL It would keep and spread the interest, in all teams, in all top leagues , not just over the season, but over the years. Meaning More fans can have a dream!!! It would give a once in a lifetime chance for the also rans, even that once every "Once in a while" Chance a relegated/lower division team, picks up extra cash and gets a place in the CL./UEL I believe its a duty of Eufa, to spread those dreams, the finances where possible, to reach more fans, through Europe..Why should it be just the top 4. Lets face it more times than not , one of the top 6 will still win a cup, more times or not, but a permanent open door for another fairytale or 2 ,....'Once in a while.'....why not!! ?? A cup against 3rd or 4th place, At least somebody Winning a cup as achieved something, in any given season. Even if it maybe a Portsmouth/Wigan/Birmingham, once in awhile. It would also up the Anti, for those 3rd-4th places chasing higher goals... Nantes vs Burnley, Cagliari vs Watford or Spurs vs Leicester in the CL/UEL. R.Madrid vs Cardiff. More times than not top teams will still have their glories, but Occasional nobodies spreads the dream.
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