HankMarvin Posted 29 May 2018 Posted 29 May 2018 RIY AT LAST Riyad Mahrez close to Manchester City move as Pep Guardiola prepares to set new club transfer record fee with £60m deal for Leicester ace https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6406047/riyad-mahrez-manchester-city-leicester-deal-close/ EXCLUSIVE. allegedly
vanity Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 8 hours ago, Gerard said: Football is a meritocracy, Messi could have been playing for the Dog and Duck in a pub league at 16 and would still found himself at Barcelona within two or three years. Mahrez would have been picked up as well and found himself at the top of the game. If you put so much emphasis on our coaching and sports science as to why Mahrez turned out to be a borderline world class player then why do so many of our academy players end up in non league football? You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear and Mahrez was always finest quality silk that was rough round the edges. Football can be a meritocracy, certainly. But like with most things in life, you need a bit of good fortune to complement your ability and hard work. Clubs are like girlfriends -- some leave baggage. Some leave scars. Some boil your child's bunny rabbit. Mahrez was fortunate to wind up someplace where his talent was desperately needed, so his failings were overlooked. But had he wound up coached by someone like Mourinho, he gets buried on the bench and branded a failure in the Prem, and would need to stage a Salah-type do-over. If he pulled this strike crap with Bruno de Carvalho, he may well have wound up beaten by masked men with rubber hoses, and if he didn't knuckle under to those strongarm tactics, who knows? Or what if Mahrez had somehow managed to get snatched up as a teen by his dream club, Arsenal? They turn destiny into disappointment like they're an Abou Diaby factory. 1
hejammy Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 6 hours ago, norwichfox said: Has had a few good moments, contributed a lot in the title winning season, but I shall be glad when the lazy, half ar$ed cnut has gone from here and we can get consistency on the right hand side of the pitch with players that care about LCFC and turn up on a match by match basis. A few good moments ?? jog on mate
Sly Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 6 hours ago, norwichfox said: Has had a few good moments, contributed a lot in the title winning season, but I shall be glad when the lazy, half ar$ed cnut has gone from here and we can get consistency on the right hand side of the pitch with players that care about LCFC and turn up on a match by match basis. Are we going to play Albrighton on the right then?!? I forsee the abuse incoming now, about how we lack that bit of magic.
hejammy Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 2 minutes ago, Sly said: Are we going to play Albrighton on the right then?!? I forsee the abuse incoming now, about how we lack that bit of magic. But Albrighton works so hard so that must make him a much better player on the right..... 1
Sly Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 I think the bottom line is, Mahrez is an extreamly gifted football player. You can only coach someone if they have the raw ability to begin with. It was clear he had that. You could see it with Kante also, who in my opinion is an enigma of a player. Vardy is a different case, had the raw ability but has honed in on certain areas and as much a change in lifestyle has improved him. He’ll need to adapt again as he slows, due to his reliance of the physical aspects of the game. I think the difference that sets these three gems apart from anyone else in our squad, is the “footballing brain” as it’s called. Diabate, Gray, Musa etc, they aren’t on the same level. Yes, they’ve got technical abilly, however it isn’t on the same level. We won’t replace Mahrez for a similar player, it was a stroke of wizardry that we ended up with the above three players, amongst many other career best performances from the likes of Morgan, Simpson, Drinkwater, Huth etc that colminated in forming the greatest football fairytil ever. Like Kante before him, I’ll wish him well, on his journey elsewhere, always looking on in admiration, knowing that we got to see him playing in a Leicester City shirt. 1
WigstonWanderer Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 9 hours ago, Gerard said: Football is a meritocracy, Messi could have been playing for the Dog and Duck in a pub league at 16 and would still found himself at Barcelona within two or three years. Mahrez would have been picked up as well and found himself at the top of the game. If you put so much emphasis on our coaching and sports science as to why Mahrez turned out to be a borderline world class player then why do so many of our academy players end up in non league football? You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear and Mahrez was always finest quality silk that was rough round the edges. Hmmm, nature vs nurture debate. Suppose Messi had an identical twin, genetically identical, but separated at birth and brought up in Burton. Would he have become such a great footballer? I’m not so sure.
ozleicester Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 Mahrez has grown as a result of being at Leicester, whether he would have grown the same amount in the same timefram at other clubs is always going to be debatable. But , I remember watching him on arrival, i was a Knocky fan boi back then, and i watched as Mahrez grew, improved and (deservedly) took Knockys spot. He continued to grow and improve until he was POTY, he has continued to grow but the team has not so we dont neccessarily see that improvement so clearly. He will go to a big club and he will grow some more, he is currently world class and at a big clb he will become one of the world elite. Im sorry we lost Knocky because of him.. Im glad we got to see him in a Leicester shirt and we will look back in years to come at his artistry and smile into senility knowing he was once OUR player.
bpfox Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 i will make this prediction, he will spend more time on the city bench and will look for a move with in 2 years, big clubs dont tolerate players who only play 40-50% of the time. 3
st albans fox Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 1 hour ago, bpfox said: i will make this prediction, he will spend more time on the city bench and will look for a move with in 2 years, big clubs dont tolerate players who only play 40-50% of the time. This needs to be corrected. It’s a myth. The geeza has been playing in a side which had 30/40% possession. That doesn’t suit a player with his talents which aren’t about mucking in and ratting about trying to regain the ball (nearly all the time, not just when it’s lost which will happen at his new club). Whilst it’s not a problem when you’re winning (as the song goes), it most definitely must be soul destroying for him when we aren’t. if he copes with the move (psychologically) and being amongst the superstars day to day and on the pitch, then he will become a proper superstar. That isn’t a certainty - human beings are complex. 1
The Quick Brown Fox Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 I think Mahrez will struggle in his first year at Man City (if that's where he goes) as he will try too hard to live up to his fee and over complicate things losing the balls and frustrating Pep. He has the ability and imo deserves more than just the 1 top flight title to his name, players of his ability should be winning more and unfortunately that's not going to be with us. I also think Mahrez moving on will help develop players like Gray and Diabate as they won't feel they have to perform to Mahrezs level to be in with a shout of playing. I hope that makes sense as in my head it does.
norwichfox Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 6 hours ago, Sly said: Are we going to play Albrighton on the right then?!? I forsee the abuse incoming now, about how we lack that bit of magic. I hope not, I'm rather hoping that Fousseni Diabaté will turn out to be a gem of a player to fill what will be a big void, he's demonstrated some good stuff at times and seemingly enjoys playing for us.
Guest Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 11 hours ago, chapero82 said: I don’t think we have won many without him either which is a huge worry! You are aware that we won thousands of games before he joined us aren't you? We'll win thousands more after he leaves us. Too many drama queens in Mahrez threads. People were saying that we couldn't replace Cambiasso not so long ago. And then it was Kanté and then Drinky...
teblin Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 Just now, FIF said: You are aware that we won thousands of games before he joined us aren't you? We'll win thousands more after he leaves us. Too many drama queens in Mahrez threads. People were saying that we couldn't replace Cambiasso not so long ago. And then it was Kanté and then Drinky... I'm not sure we have replaced Kante and drinky.
Guest Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 4 minutes ago, teblin said: I'm not sure we have replaced Kante and drinky. I think Ndidi is going to be better than Kanté, Silva or Iborra are better than Danny and then we have Kanté mkII on the verge of the big time. Hamza Choudhury IS the new kanté.
Scotch Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 2 minutes ago, FIF said: I think Ndidi is going to be better than Kanté, Silva or Iborra are better than Danny and then we have Kanté mkII on the verge of the big time. Hamza Choudhury IS the new kanté. I agree. Ndidi will get to the same level as Kante. Maybe Hamza too. Silva IS better than Drinky but together they don' work as well as Danny and Ngolo did. We were stronger in the middle of the park with them than we are now. Despite having potentially better footballers at our disposal.
Ric Flair Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 10 minutes ago, FIF said: You are aware that we won thousands of games before he joined us aren't you? We'll win thousands more after he leaves us. Too many drama queens in Mahrez threads. People were saying that we couldn't replace Cambiasso not so long ago. And then it was Kanté and then Drinky... It's not inconceivable for us to fail to replace Mahrez's creativity and goals and the gap between where we've finished the last 2 seasons and scrapping it out at the bottom is 2-3 losses instead of wins. I think we should hold judgement on the implications of Mahrez going until we see what replacements we bring in and in other areas, also let's see what Puel's future holds. This is a pivotal summer, like they often all are. However, goal scorers and creative genius's don't grow on trees and there's many clubs who fail to unearth them or successfully replace them when they move on. I'd like to think we can as although our recruitment process has taken some hits in recent years, we still have a model we stick to that is better than a lot of our rivals hence why they keep trying to pinch our employees. That £75m could get us a mustard winger or two or one and a proper number 10, we just need to be careful in this window in not being taken for a ride with the bunce we'll have banked. It's easier to have agreed replacements before you let go your crown jewel.
Redouane Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Jattdogg said: Thesun Seems legit. They were the only news outlet that had the courage to expose Sterling as the Manchester Serial Stabber Edited 30 May 2018 by Redouane 2
Finnegan Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 30 minutes ago, norwichfox said: I hope not, I'm rather hoping that Fousseni Diabaté will turn out to be a gem of a player to fill what will be a big void, he's demonstrated some good stuff at times and seemingly enjoys playing for us. He's raw as **** and will never be more than average at this level. Mahrez is consistently world class and anyone that can possibly be glad to see him go for footballing reasons is too stupid to get to voice an opinion on here tbf. 1
MC Prussian Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 Just now, Finnegan said: He's raw as **** and will never be more than average at this level. Mahrez is consistently world class and anyone that can possibly be glad to see him go for footballing reasons is too stupid to get to voice an opinion on here tbf. Eurgh. He can be world class - if he wants to be. But consistency is not his forte. 1
Ric Flair Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 5 minutes ago, Finnegan said: He's raw as **** and will never be more than average at this level. Mahrez is consistently world class and anyone that can possibly be glad to see him go for footballing reasons is too stupid to get to voice an opinion on here tbf. That's a little bit presumptuous on Diabate but the chances of you being correct are higher than you being wrong. Mahrez is incredible and it'll be the same prats wishing him gone that'll be booing and up in arms when we're devoid of any creativity or edge of your seat stuff next season. Diabate has to play wide right to stand any chance of making a worthwhile impact. 1
norwichfox Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 1 minute ago, Finnegan said: He's raw as **** and will never be more than average at this level. Mahrez is consistently world class and anyone that can possibly be glad to see him go for footballing reasons is too stupid to get to voice an opinion on here tbf. He's not a world class player, could have been, but really isn't. His most consistent attribute is to stroll through games run into groups of defenders and loose the ball, and not pass when it's a better option. Remember how he was when he first came to LCFC, it's quite possible that Fouss will develop along the same lines....hence my choice of "hoping", I like many others, saw something very good in the lad....oh and who the fcuk are you to decide who gets to post an opinion? What a self centred tw@ you are. My level of stupidity is on display only by my replying to your dross. 1
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