VLC86 Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 5 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said: The problem is that we don't know if we can attract anyone of proven high quality. Well that’s where we need to make the statement isn’t it because at the minute with Mahrez off we have a huge lack of creativity and for potential new signings, ambition. Show that bit of ambition and all of that could change.
Katy Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 2 minutes ago, Beechey said: This is our primary issue. We might be absolutely minted right now, but if we're not ever winning anything, why would any decent player want to come here? The club needs to show it has the ambition to push on. It's going to be a long process, but really we need to be qualifying for Europa on a semi-regular basis I feel, as wages alone won't cut it, when most clubs in the league are as flushed with cash as we are. If we had been arsed to push for Burnley’s Europa slot last season, we might be in a better position to attract the better players now.
Beechey Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: Maybe ask Pereira ££££ Nobody else was in for him though. Spurs were linked last season and chose Serge Aurier over him. We were the only club really solidly linked this season. Money is enough for some players, but if the discussion is replacing a player of Mahrez's quality with a player of equal ability, money is not enough. Edited 30 May 2018 by Beechey
Collymore Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 2 minutes ago, Grebfromgrebland said: The problem is that we don't know if we can attract anyone of proven high quality. Exactly. It's like the real life version of the dreaded "Filter out unrealistic targets" on Football Manager. You've edited the DB and given yourself £500m to spend, see Messi at the top of the list, hit the filter and you're left in negotiations with Charlie Adam. 2
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 2 minutes ago, Beechey said: Nobody else was in for him though. Spurs were linked last season and chose Serge Aurier over him. We were the only club really solidly linked this season. Money is enough for some players, but if the discussion is replacing a player of Mahrez's quality with a player of equal ability, money is not enough. Rumour is both Dortmund & Lepizig wanted him.
HankMarvin Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 3 minutes ago, Collymore said: Exactly. It's like the real life version of the dreaded "Filter out unrealistic targets" on Football Manager. You've edited the DB and given yourself £500m to spend, see Messi at the top of the list, hit the filter and you're left in negotiations with Charlie Adam. I would like to assume baring in mind this has been inevitable for at least 18 months that a business run by a billionaire would have some strategic contingency plan in place. With a multitude of attainable high class targets. But this is Leicester after all
Beechey Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Bluearmyfox28 said: Rumour is both Dortmund & Lepizig wanted him. Let's not pretend that neither of those clubs could match our apparent £60k wages we offered him. We know Puel was instrumental in this transfer, but unless there's another former Puel player that wants out of his current club and really wants to play in the PL, with no other PL clubs in for him (placed 7th and up), we're going to need to show a lot of ambition in the coming seasons. We will occasionally be able to grab a great player, but we then need to hold on to them and keep getting other great players. We're about to lose (by some margin I believe) our best player with no realistic replacement being linked. Edited 30 May 2018 by Beechey
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 Just now, Beechey said: Let's not pretend that neither of those clubs could match our apparent £60k wages we offered him. We know Puel was instrumental in this transfer, but unless there's another former Puel player that wants out of his current club and really wants to play in the PL, with no other PL clubs in for him (played 8th and up), we're going to need to show a lot of ambition in the coming seasons. We will occasionally be able to grab a great player, but we then need to hold on to them and keep getting other great players. We're about to lose (by some margin I believe) our best player with no realistic replacement being linked. There is no realistic replacement for Mahrez that is the problem. As stats show Mahrez is the most consistent attacking midfielder in the premier league the past 2/3 years. Now I do believe we are more attractive than most premier league sides however we are no way near the top 6. Therefore we won’t find a realistic replacement.
Ric Flair Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 1 hour ago, Bozman said: Sorry Ric, just think that's a massive over reaction, if we sold mardy Mahrez and if we didn't bring anyone in we would still be mid table at the very worst.. We have a very decent squad when you compare it to the teams that finished below us. The biggest problem i see next season is more to do with the manager not the team strength.. Where's the creativity without him? There is none. Pereira is a start but take Mahrez's assists and his goals out and we'd be much nearer the relegation pack than we were, hence our struggles in 2016/17 when Mahrez had a honking season. 1
HankMarvin Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 6 minutes ago, Beechey said: Let's not pretend that neither of those clubs could match our apparent £60k wages we offered him. We know Puel was instrumental in this transfer, but unless there's another former Puel player that wants out of his current club and really wants to play in the PL, with no other PL clubs in for him (played 8th and up), we're going to need to show a lot of ambition in the coming seasons. We will occasionally be able to grab a great player, but we then need to hold on to them and keep getting other great players. We're about to lose (by some margin I believe) our best player with no realistic replacement being linked. You seriously don’t think those clubs could pay 60k? Especially on the back of the Aubameyang and Keita deals
lcfc sheff Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 Just now, urban.spaceman said: ... any actual news? I'm expecting they'll gossip about the x-factor next
Beechey Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 1 minute ago, HankMarvin said: You seriously don’t think those clubs could pay 60k? Especially on the back of the Aubameyang and Keita deals Did you misread me? I clearly believe both of those clubs could match the wages.
FoxinNotts Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 3 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: ... any actual news? Think you’re in the wrong place, if you’re after facts!
MC Prussian Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, lifted*fox said: Just another side-effect of our miraculous PL title win. Our fans have become so entitled we expect every last touch from every single player to be of the highest quality, the highest standard with zero room for error. We truly have the fan-base now of an multi-trophy winning top 6 club after winning the league once. We don't allow young players time to grow - we get on their backs, they have 'attitude' problems when something doesn't go right or they post a photo of them looking dour on social media. We boo our team when we're losing at half-time. We don't allow a manager more than 6 months to make a difference. It's ****ing crap tbh. Mahrez sways from hot to cold but for all of his cold moments and selfishness and poor decision making - he's provided us with hundreds of memories and we should be so lucky to see such a player again. That‘s whitewashing of a higher order right here. What‘s happened is that our fanbase has increased more than ten-fold in a relatively short period of time. We‘ve attracted much more fairweather and foreign fans with little to no connection to or affection for the club. These are the ones spoiling it for me with their mental state and sense of entitlement. I don‘t like it, but that‘s the market we‘re in now. The true and loyal fanbase doesn‘t expect us to perform miracles on a regular basis, because they know where we come from and what it took to get there. Establishing a functioning youth academy and „producing“ talent takes time, effort and luck. We‘re competing with many other clubs over who can hoard the most youngsters. What‘s with the booing part? We‘ve booed players for bad performances before, long before our current PL phase. Hardly anything unusual. The fans can moan and groan as much as they want to, in the end, it‘s the board that decides. Edited 30 May 2018 by MC Prussian
HankMarvin Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 1 minute ago, Beechey said: Did you misread me? I clearly believe both of those clubs could match the wages. I think it’s because you said let’s not pretend they could match 60k 1
Ric Flair Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 17 minutes ago, Katy said: If we had been arsed to push for Burnley’s Europa slot last season, we might be in a better position to attract the better players now. I'm not sure a Europa league spot would give us much more clout, we sign players who play champions league football from inferior leagues like Portugal because we offer bigger salaries, yes it's a bonus for players to be in as many competitions as possible to win things but the PL is the meal ticket for most.
lifted*fox Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 1 minute ago, MC Prussian said: What‘s happened is that our fanbase has increased more than ten-fold in a relatively short period of time. We‘ve attracted much more fairweather and foreign fans with little to no connection to or affection for the club. These are the ones spoiling it for me with their mental state and sense of entitlement. I don‘t like it, but that‘s the market we‘re in now. yes, there's lots of 'new' fans who act like this, true - but I am mainly referring to the growing number of long-term posters on this very forum that display the same attitude - they've been here for the long haul and should know better. 1
MC Prussian Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 9 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Where's the creativity without him? There is none. Pereira is a start but take Mahrez's assists and his goals out and we'd be much nearer the relegation pack than we were, hence our struggles in 2016/17 when Mahrez had a honking season. Where was the creativity with Mahrez on the pitch? Apparent in patches. Absent in stretches. We‘ve got to trust the club to sign someone who is at least able to add flair and creativity to some extent. It‘s a team game, more players need to chip in with goals and assists next season, as well. It‘s fatal to rely on one particular player alone to produce the magic occasionally. 1
Ric Flair Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 Just now, MC Prussian said: Where was the creativity with Mahrez on the pitch? Apparent in patches. Absent in stretches. We‘ve got to trust the club to sign someone who is at least able to add flair and creativity to some extent. It‘s a team game, more players need to chip in with goals and assists next season, as well. It‘s fatal to rely on one particular player alone to produce the magic occasionally. It's there to see mate, goals and assists as good as anyone in the league bar a couple. He lights up games and there's many other moments of brilliance. There'll always be times he goes supposedly missing as we don't win every game and tactically are a limited side when teams sit back on us but if you are questioning his creativity then I'm speechless. Nothing left to say here. 1
Ted Maul Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 32 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said: That is what truly scares me, look at the dross Spurs brought in when they sold Bale and Everton with Lukaku and you will see that it doesn’t always pan out that way. If I’m honest I would rather us try to sign someone ridiculous with most of the funds rather than spread it over a volume of players. I know thats a very risky strategy but if we can buy proven quality for £50m rather than gamble on 4/5 players I would be down for that. I agree. I meant splash the lot on 2 attacking players for £35/40m each- make sure we get players in who will hit the ground running and contribute 5+ goals & assists each in the first season. 1
Grebfromgrebland Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 We need some experienced players to come into the team
Popular Post Fox92 Posted 30 May 2018 Popular Post Posted 30 May 2018 18 hours ago, norwichfox said: Has had a few good moments, contributed a lot in the title winning season, but I shall be glad when the lazy, half ar$ed cnut has gone from here and we can get consistency on the right hand side of the pitch with players that care about LCFC and turn up on a match by match basis. Mahrez has reached double figures for goals and assists in a relatively poor side. He was a massive influence in us winning the top flight ffs. He's a legend and always will be. Our fan base is so weird, 6
FoxinNotts Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 The guy is irreplaceable for us, in the sense that, we won’t be able to attract one player for £60m, who brings to the team what Mahrez currently brings to the team. We simply aren’t in the same buying market as those who buy £60m players.
les-tah Posted 30 May 2018 Posted 30 May 2018 (edited) Ultimately in losing Mahrez we need a player to assist +10 and score +10 in the league next season. There is no player currently that is capable of that so i expect us to pay big for someone, we have to be realistic and assume the club already realize this. If we are spending £20 million on a fullback we have to assume we are going to spend big on a Mahrez replacement. Edited 30 May 2018 by les-tah 1
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