mozartfox Posted 17 August 2018 Posted 17 August 2018 58 minutes ago, STUHILL said: Incredible if true! Was a disastrous window, when it should have been one of our best ever, with the ability to capitalise on our new found fame and Champions League football. Claudio, Rudkin and Walsh all to blame. And not forgetting Wellens, Filbert and the Birch.
Popular Post BenTheFox Posted 17 August 2018 Popular Post Posted 17 August 2018 34 minutes ago, STUHILL said: I hope is was the case, as otherwise Walsh/Claudio had an absolute mare on their own. We did well to hold on to Mahrez for as long as we did but obviously the Kante release clause was a big error attributed to Rudkin. I actually think it's hard to criticise Rudkin for Kante's release clause. Had we not inserted the release the player may not have signed. Rudkin's thinking was that if someone is willing to pay £30 million for him then he would have had a good season for us. We all knew Kante was worth more than that what we got for him, but I'd rather have had him for the season he was here than not. The biggest mistake of that window wasn't Kante being allowed to leave, it was not finding sufficient replacement for him. Signing Mendy was fine seeing as he had a growing reputation at the time, but we should have signed another centre mid as well just to ensure that we weren't thin in that department. 11 1
STUHILL Posted 17 August 2018 Posted 17 August 2018 10 minutes ago, mozartfox said: And not forgetting Wellens, Filbert and the Birch. Nah just those directly involved in the recruitment during that window. Macia has come in a done a great job since and Rudkin has done well getting good value for players like Maguire. N'didi, Evans etc Long may it continue. Important lessons learnt from that 16/17 period
sylofox Posted 17 August 2018 Posted 17 August 2018 2 hours ago, Finnegan said: Do you ever post anything that isn't self congratulatory? That's why I'm here to keep the old gitt in line. It's just his age he's not that bad really.
STUHILL Posted 17 August 2018 Posted 17 August 2018 24 minutes ago, BenTheFox said: I actually think it's hard to criticise Rudkin for Kante's release clause. Had we not inserted the release the player may not have signed. Rudkin's thinking was that if someone is willing to pay £30 million for him then he would have had a good season for us. We all knew Kante was worth more than that what we got for him, but I'd rather have had him for the season he was here than not. The biggest mistake of that window wasn't Kante being allowed to leave, it was not finding sufficient replacement for him. Signing Mendy was fine seeing as he had a growing reputation at the time, but we should have signed another centre mid as well just to ensure that we weren't thin in that department. Obviously if it comes down to having a player of Kante's quality or not, then you would certainly make the concession of a release clause if no other other option. I just think we lost a world class player on the cheap and although Rudkin or any of us could not predict how good he would actually become, it still must have stung the club and Rudkin to let him go for that kind of money. I imagine, release clauses will be inserted as a last resort now when trying to sign a player or negotiate a new deal. I'd prefer we pay more or add a bonus or two etc, to persuade a player to join/stay, rather than let them have a release clause.
ronnup Posted 17 August 2018 Posted 17 August 2018 The kid has a lot of talent. Not everyone takes to moving away from home at a very young age. I for one (slightly bias as half Polish) hope he does well 1
Popular Post fleckneymike Posted 17 August 2018 Popular Post Posted 17 August 2018 3 hours ago, STUHILL said: I hope is was the case, as otherwise Walsh/Claudio had an absolute mare on their own. We did well to hold on to Mahrez for as long as we did but obviously the Kante release clause was a big error attributed to Rudkin. That release clause was the only way we could get him to sign. He (not in a rude or arrogant way) really didn’t want to come to us. 6
BenTheFox Posted 17 August 2018 Posted 17 August 2018 3 minutes ago, fleckneymike said: That release clause was the only way we could get him to sign. He (not in a rude or arrogant way) really didn’t want to come to us. I bet he's really glad he did sign for us in hindsight
Popular Post ramadaone Posted 17 August 2018 Popular Post Posted 17 August 2018 2 hours ago, STUHILL said: Obviously if it comes down to having a player of Kante's quality or not, then you would certainly make the concession of a release clause if no other other option. I just think we lost a world class player on the cheap and although Rudkin or any of us could not predict how good he would actually become, it still must have stung the club and Rudkin to let him go for that kind of money. I imagine, release clauses will be inserted as a last resort now when trying to sign a player or negotiate a new deal. I'd prefer we pay more or add a bonus or two etc, to persuade a player to join/stay, rather than let them have a release clause. The stunt Rudkin pulled to get him signed was top drawer and the release clause was unavoidable The alternative was he didn't sign at all 6 1
Guest Col city fan Posted 17 August 2018 Posted 17 August 2018 6 hours ago, Finnegan said: Do you ever post anything that isn't self congratulatory? I don't think I've ever seen any bulk of people really rate him to be honest, we were all hopeful that a highly rated young international would be decent and it was pretty quickly obvious he wasn't good enough. He went out on loan and wasn't good enough and now basically nobody is calling him for to be kept or played in the team. You're really not any kind of special visionary because you didn't rate him and thought he was too small. Literally everybody did. I can’t be arsed to go back through so many threads that contained so many posts bigging-up Kaputska like he was the next Paul Gascoigne. My only surprise would be if you weren’t jumping on the bandwagon with your usual vigour.
STUHILL Posted 17 August 2018 Posted 17 August 2018 1 hour ago, ramadaone said: The stunt Rudkin pulled to get him signed was top drawer and the release clause was unavoidable The alternative was he didn't sign at all The stunt? Kante was hardly a CM in huge demand. Only ourselves and Marseille were in for him and no one knew how good he would become i.e World Class. No doubt one of our best signings ever and if the release clause is what got it over the line, then kudos to Rudkin for agreeing to the agent's demand for one.
Gerard Posted 17 August 2018 Posted 17 August 2018 2 hours ago, BenTheFox said: I bet he's really glad he did sign for us in hindsight Even gladder that he asked for the release clause or he'd still be here.
ronnup Posted 17 August 2018 Posted 17 August 2018 2 hours ago, ramadaone said: The stunt Rudkin pulled to get him signed was top drawer and the release clause was unavoidable The alternative was he didn't sign at all The less fashionable truth ☝?
SpacedX Posted 17 August 2018 Posted 17 August 2018 8 hours ago, Col city fan said: Never rated him any time I saw him play. Too small, too lightweight and never got the love in that he received on here (although that don’t surprise me too much on here) I thought he looked very promising in the FA Cup draw at Millwall - albeit lacking fitness. Both he and Molla Wagué were the best City players on the pitch that day (until the latter dislocated his shoulder). Weird tie that. A blatant penalty committed on Okazaki - and the sole time I've ever seen him remain on his feet after a challenge; a Musa shot which threatened to break a window on the Shard and Chillwell allegedly too intimidated by the crowd to take a throw in.
An Away Move Posted 17 August 2018 Posted 17 August 2018 I only saw him play in that awful Millwall game and tbf I thought he showed nice touches and I thought at the time I'd like to see more of him in the middle feeding Vardy. I don't know what's gone wrong. None of us do. 1
Wizerud Posted 18 August 2018 Posted 18 August 2018 Are no top-tier Polish sides interested in loaning him? No Championship teams? I still think he deserves a chance, if he wants it. He's still really young, we need to see if he can survive the rigours of week in week out football. It worked for Lawrence (even though it didn't ultimately for us). Give the lad some hope that he could still have a role if he proves himself over the course of an entire season.
sylofox Posted 18 August 2018 Posted 18 August 2018 (edited) On 17/08/2018 at 18:51, NewquayFox said: Anyway has Kaputska gone yet? No as we never signed the guy. Newquay if your confused by my comment you could try spelling his name correctly. Edited 19 August 2018 by sylofox
Guest Posted 18 August 2018 Posted 18 August 2018 10 hours ago, chapero82 said: Wow So he'd rather play for our U23s than play in serieB.
Webbo Posted 18 August 2018 Posted 18 August 2018 My guess is that it came down to money rather than the division of the team he'd play for. 2
Ian Nacho Posted 18 August 2018 Posted 18 August 2018 12 hours ago, Webbo said: My guess is that it came down to money rather than the division of the team he'd play for. I would think also, if I he couldn't make it in the Italian second division, his career would practically have to start again.
Guest Posted 19 August 2018 Posted 19 August 2018 21 hours ago, Webbo said: My guess is that it came down to money rather than the division of the team he'd play for. I thought it was a loan. If that's the case then salary wouldn't make any difference. If it was a sale then I don't blame him for not wanting to go to Serie B, regardless of salary.
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