Our start so far?

[HighPeakFox]

23 minutes ago, Bluetintedspecs said:

I wasn't saying don't discuss it, my point is that after only 3 games whatever viewpoint you have it is not enough games to make a reasoned assessment. Factor in the World Cup new personnel, youth and change of playing style and time to settle has to be a big factor surely?

You want reasoned assessment, here? You must be very idiot....

Edited 28 August 2018 by HighPeakFox

[WigstonWanderer]

26 minutes ago, Bluetintedspecs said:

I wasn't saying don't discuss it, my point is that after only 3 games whatever viewpoint you have it is not enough games to make a reasoned assessment. Factor in the World Cup new personnel, youth and change of playing style and time to settle has to be a big factor surely?

Not disputing that it’s too early to draw any conclusions. Many (if not most) contributors here have been pretty reasonable IMO.

[Rusko187]

Excellent start if you look at it based on points, would like us to create and finish more.

For me Iheanacho really needs to buck up! Could be down to service, ability or attitude.. I don't know, only been to 1 game but I backed him to be a great player for us. The more I see of him I'm starting to feel he won't.

Outside of that I'm happy with what Claudes doing with the squad, full of youth and getting results.. what more can you do?

[Captain...]

Obviously the results have been good, but there are a few other things I have been looking out for.

1. Are we going to play the turgid football that saw us embarrassed by Palace and us struggle against teams we should be looking to beat, or are we rediscovering the form that propelled us up the league under Puel? So far it  has been a mixture of the 2, with additions to the side like Ricardo and Maddison we have looked much improved there is a more dynamic approach and Gray and Chilwell and Mendy are benefiting from a formation that suits them. There are still periods of play where we look leaden and clueless. I don't agree with Ricardo being played as a right wing in front of Amartey at  RB, it reminds of Chilwell on the left wing last season, or Albrighton at right back. They were maybe out of desperation, but when you have a quality attacking right back that doesn't mean he can play right wide forward. You are not going to help Ricardo settle into a role, you aren't going to help Amartey at RB because Ricardo is not playing his natural game. I understand the thinking, away from home Amartey and Ricardo is more defense minded, but if you are worried about full backs being too attack minded away from home, then drop one or go 3 at the back. We have Gezzal, Gray, Albrighton to play the wide roles.

 

2. The attitude of the players. There was plenty of talk of dressing room revolt last season, but the players seem happy on the pitch, I have no questions over effort and desire just application at the moment. I am hoping that the attitude will help bring this formation together and we click and give someone a spanking (please be Bournemouth) and that heads don't drop frustration sets in and we regress to the football that saw us on relegation form.

So far, so good, so what, the 3 games against Bournemouth, Huddersfield, Newcastle will tell us where we are and then Everton at home will give us a big test.

[CosbehFox]

There's part of me which is happy to clock up the points early doors and see off any threat of relegation. Then be more expansive in our play. 

However, we play well for spells. There's understandable reluctance to play Pereira at right back because of his positioning and how gung-ho we go. I understand the choice of Mendy whose probably the best on the ball. We don't have a box to box midfielder as a result though. Maddison is fine when there's space and time to play in front of a defence but he's gotta work out when that's not available. The left wing for once is fine. 

We have played well for spells in all three games. 

I don't believe in luck largely with football either. If you are positive, you are most of the time rewarded with your luck. The Wolves own goal was thanks in part to a great cross and the second goal was excellent build-up. You put the opposition on the back foot if you attack like that. Southampton, the winner came as of positive passing and a gap opened up.

Against Man U, for all the possession, we only hit one cross on the money and it led to the goal. 

Edited 28 August 2018 by Cardiff_Fox

[norwichfox]

can we arrange to have one of these threads after every match?...oh, sorry, I didn't realise we were already doing it

[Bluetintedspecs]

3 hours ago, WigstonWanderer said:

Not disputing that it’s too early to draw any conclusions. Many (if not most) contributors here have been pretty reasonable IMO.

On that point I must respectfully disagree ?

[TheSomersetFox]

Delusions of grandeur has never been more valid. Some people literally cannot wait to turn on Puel.

 

I’m not saying we’ve been brilliant. I’m not saying that it won’t go tits up under him - it’s entirely possible. But **** me try getting behind him, the team and the club. Knives will be out soon I’m sure.

[Corky]

Pleased with the points return and the position in the table. Would like performances to be better and hopefully that will come.

 

[srbfox]

We need to be beating those teams around us, and we have done that. A season is judged on results and so far the return has been good. 

 

I I think optimistic but not excited would sum it up for me. 

[Marshall Cockney Fox]

It's been emotional!!

[SheppyFox]

We’re winning ugly and gaining confidence, that’s all you can do when you’re not in great form. The flash, fluid entertainment will follow ??

[Russell sprout]

10 hours ago, Bluetintedspecs said:

I wasn't saying don't discuss it, my point is that after only 3 games whatever viewpoint you have it is not enough games to make a reasoned assessment. Factor in the World Cup new personnel, youth and change of playing style and time to settle has to be a big factor surely?

Had we lost all three league games and again tonight everyone would be talking about that,so why not when we’re winning 

[Grebfromgrebland]

With so many young players and so many new to the league it'll probably be next season that these players click and show their full potential.

Hopefully we have the patience to see this process through, the owners can see the bigger picture but I'm not so sure the fans will tolerate a long transition period but we need to stick with it.

[weller54]

1 hour ago, SheppyFox said:

We’re winning ugly and gaining confidence, that’s all you can do when you’re not in great form. The flash, fluid entertainment will follow ??

Can't wait.... 

[Bluetintedspecs]

21 minutes ago, Russell sprout said:

Had we lost all three league games and again tonight everyone would be talking about that,so why not when we’re winning?

3 games at the beginning of the season are not a true barometer for any team imo. I've clearly stated anyone can say whatever they want, it's a forum.

I am voicing my opinion because that is what I feel, I'm  not saying people shouldn't discuss or debate I just purely don't think it's long enough and I find it comical how some are twisting their points to justify their bias and agendas against Puel. Their prerogative and mine is to voice my opinion too.

[worthosoriginals]

20 minutes ago, Bluetintedspecs said:

3 games at the beginning of the season are not a true barometer for any team imo. I've clearly stated anyone can say whatever they want, it's a forum.

I am voicing my opinion because that is what I feel, I'm  not saying people shouldn't discuss or debate I just purely don't think it's long enough and I find it comical how some are twisting their points to justify their bias and agendas against Puel. Their prerogative and mine is to voice my opinion too.

too right blue.

these people that want puel to fail to suit their own 'I told you he's crap' agenda.

to me, ultimatelythey  are anti our football club. 

whatever crap they say to justify. they're the

opposite to the word supporter.

entitled brats maybe?

 

[Bluetintedspecs]

5 minutes ago, worthosoriginals said:

too right blue.

these people that want puel to fail to suit their own 'I told you he's crap' agenda.

to me, ultimatelythey  are anti our football club. 

whatever crap they say to justify. they're the

opposite to the word supporter.

entitled brats maybe?

 

It really saddens me that some actually appear to want us to fail to say " I told you so " it really is alien to me Wortho, if we're on a crap run or there is something fundamentally wrong I get voicing discontent but even though Puel is changing style and personnel with a lot of young exciting players in the squad, for some, he will never do anything right! Also he's strengthened in areas where many including detractors have said we needed too, yet......damned if he does or doesn't.

[Max Wall]

5 minutes ago, Bluetintedspecs said:

It really saddens me that some actually appear to want us to fail to say " I told you so " it really is alien to me Wortho, if we're on a crap run or there is something fundamentally wrong I get voicing discontent but even though Puel is changing style and personnel with a lot of young exciting players in the squad, for some, he will never do anything right! Also he's strengthened in areas where many including detractors have said we needed too, yet......damned if he does or doesn't.

Only joined a couple of years ago and I've been genuinely astounded at the negativity on here at times. I think, in general, I'm on the wrong side of negative as a person but some of the people on FT make me look like an eternal optimist.

I'm with you, I could never imagine a time I would want the club or any of it's employees to fail so it would prove me correct. That doesn't seem to be the case for some.

[lfu]

10 hours ago, norwichfox said:

can we arrange to have one of these threads after every match?...oh, sorry, I didn't realise we were already doing it

Only one? We've been having two at the least

[HighPeakFox]

10 hours ago, Bluetintedspecs said:

It really saddens me that some actually appear to want us to fail to say " I told you so " it really is alien to me Wortho, if we're on a crap run or there is something fundamentally wrong I get voicing discontent but even though Puel is changing style and personnel with a lot of young exciting players in the squad, for some, he will never do anything right! Also he's strengthened in areas where many including detractors have said we needed too, yet......damned if he does or doesn't.

The world is full of people who are can never be shown to be wrong, and refuse to admit a mistake, sadly.

[foxfanazer]

You look at the state of some other clubs like West Ham, Newcastle etc and then look our setup. You really can’t complain with how things are going can you?

I understand the football isn’t always scintillating but I believe thats down to us being in transition. It’s a big job Puel has on his hands but one thing that is glaringly obvious is that he’s creating a feel good factor with the players. Added to that he’s putting faith in young players which is refreshing to see.

 

No conclusions can be made this early on but let’s at least be positive when we’re winning games. I do sometimes wonder what people get out of supporting us as they don’t seem to enjoy it. If you can only be positive when we’re winning league titles we’re probably not the club you should be supporting 

Edited 29 August 2018 by foxfanazer

[Lovejoy]

If it wasn't for the title win, people would be saying we're in with a chance of our best season since the Prem started in 1992.

[Bluetintedspecs]

1 hour ago, HighPeakFox said:

The world is full of people who are can never be shown to be wrong, and refuse to admit a mistake, sadly.

For me Peaky it's not about the right and wrong because the World is thankfully full of differing opinions. It's the blinkered and close mindedness element that I find frustrating, some of the unfounded bile levelled at Puel is quite frankly pathetic IMO.

He is boring in interviews.....so what, his coaching of the players and what he does for the club is the most important thing surely?

He can't change things...he has and is as it's a work in progress.

The football is boring.... a possession based game, new style, new personnel particularly with potentially very exciting yet very young players is bound to take time to gel.

Oh and don't forget what the Southampton fans have been saying but let's rule out what fans of his previous clubs have said because they have extolled his virtues as a very good coach.

 

 

[foxfanazer]

10 minutes ago, Bluetintedspecs said:

For me Peaky it's not about the right and wrong because the World is thankfully full of differing opinions. It's the blinkered and close mindedness element that I find frustrating, some of the unfounded bile levelled at Puel is quite frankly pathetic IMO.

He is boring in interviews.....so what, his coaching of the players and what he does for the club is the most important thing surely?

He can't change things...he has and is as it's a work in progress.

The football is boring.... a possession based game, new style, new personnel particularly with potentially very exciting yet very young players is bound to take time to gel.

Oh and don't forget what the Southampton fans have been saying but let's rule out what fans of his previous clubs have said because they have extolled his virtues as a very good coach.

 

 

I sort of understand this criticism as I think a lot of it stems from the fact that we’re traditionally a counter attacking, underdog type club. It will not only take the players time to adapt but also the fans. We still have pace in our armoury but adopting a new style is imperative imo. As for the other criticisms such as his interviews I think that is a load of nonsense