Leicester v West Ham- Pre Match Thread

[Foxxed]

Someone doesn't care about the football, that's for sure.

 

They could have waited for us to play tonight - then judge.

 

Instead they went to press trying to shake us up.

 

I really hope Nacho bags a couple.

[lgfualol]

4 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Do what in the summer? He's dumped loads of players, he's made his choices but he can't force players out of the club. We had too many aging and shit players that needed replacing, you can't bin the whole squad in one window.

Are you saying there arent tons of clubs lining up for 60k a week King and Simpson 

 

Puel out

[Babylon]

1 minute ago, Foxxed said:

Someone doesn't care about the football, that's for sure.

 

They could have waited for us to play tonight - then judge.

 

Instead they went to press trying to shake us up.

 

I really hope Nacho bags a couple.

It's what pisses me off, whether Puel stays or goes I don't give a shit frankly. But we are left with two faced back stabbing pricks either in or around the team.

 

They will still be there when the next manager comes in, those using it as a stick to beat Puel need to consider that next time these players could be knifing a manager you quite like, just because they aren't getting their way or aren't in the team.

 

It's not on, no matter who is in charge. I gave the players the benefit of doubt over Ranieri, but I think I was probably wrong now.

[Matt]

14 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Do what in the summer? He's dumped loads of players, he's made his choices but he can't force players out of the club. We had too many aging and shit players that needed replacing, you can't bin the whole squad in one window.

And we've bought others in to 'suit' and yet we're going over old ground with little improvement. So much for needing the summer window the Puel apologists so desperately said he needed (Of which he largely had **** all to do with imo - Another part of the club which is failing but that's another discussion).

 

Besides be a little bit more respectful, alot of those player gave us something we never thought we'd see....Or does that line only work regards Morgan.

 

If we have such snakes and bad apples in the club why do we keep giving them long bleeding contracts on more money. I understand there is alot of money involved, they're assets which we can sell but if they have a decent amount of time left why tie them down for longer when it would benefit the club if they left. Again that's not Puel's fault as I don't think he had any say on the matter but someone (Not Puel) has to be accountable for it.

Edited 27 October 2018 by Matt

[baldeagle]

7 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

He's still scored 3 times in 7 starts though, we've no viable consistent alternative. Iheanacho seems more of a provider in the PL than an out and out goal scorer and Okazaki is a non-entity. So that leaves the Gray Project. Vardy is the first name on the team sheet and it's not as if Puel doesn't have previous for persistently picking his favourites regardless of form. He has to play.

Like I said he’s our best striker but whatever he does Puel will be in the wrong 

Edited 27 October 2018 by baldeagle

[themightyfin]

1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

Baby and bathWater?  

 

Only on stuff where you can’t say more because it materially affects the next game ( ie. this instance where West Ham would know on Wednesday that Vardy won’t be playing Saturday)

 

letting people know that influential members of our hierarchy are actively persuing a new manager is good ?

 

 

Did I say on Wednesday Vardy is dropped? Don't think I did. 

Edited 27 October 2018 by themightyfin

[Reg Vardy]

Calm down, so much said so little actually known. Whether he plays or not, we have a game to play, that we need to win, and based on that it’s business as usual, get behind the selected eleven as those eleven are Leicester City

We can sell Vardy, sack Claude on Monday......but having paid my £40 the upcoming 90 minutes is all I give a **** about

[Smudge]

27 minutes ago, Babylon said:

It's what pisses me off, whether Puel stays or goes I don't give a shit frankly. But we are left with two faced back stabbing pricks either in or around the team.

 

They will still be there when the next manager comes in, those using it as a stick to beat Puel need to consider that next time these players could be knifing a manager you quite like, just because they aren't getting their way or aren't in the team.

 

It's not on, no matter who is in charge. I gave the players the benefit of doubt over Ranieri, but I think I was probably wrong now.

Fook me, this is a red letter day 

[Alf Bentley]

3 minutes ago, Smudge said:

Fook me, this is a red letter day 

 

"Babylon's burning with anxiety" 

[yks]

If we lose, all hell will break loose for no reason in here, so 0-3 according to Murphy's Law.

[Smudge]

3 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said:

 

"Babylon's burning with anxiety" 

Maybe ge feels like he's in a Rut?

[Chester Dontlie]

Interesting developments... Can't say I'm surprised if he drops Vardy after his last performance. I had a good feeling about the Arse game, now I have a bad feeling about today (not only because of Vardy), this surely means 3 points are ours. Seen several of their games this season, it seems Pellegrini have sorted them up, they play the sort of football I wish we were playing under Puel but have trouble converting their chances and are over reliant on Arnautovic. I'll gladly take a draw.

[Babylon]

36 minutes ago, Matt said:

And we've bought others in to 'suit' and yet we're going over old ground with little improvement. So much for needing the summer window the Puel apologists so desperately said he needed (Of which he largely had **** all to do with imo - Another part of the club which is failing but that's another discussion).

 

We're 9 games into the season, he also didn't have the full squad together until about three days before the start of the season. Nobody, as far as I remember said anyone should expect instant results. Believe it or not, not everyone decides whether players or systems are good enough after 9 games. Sometimes, there  are clearly some odd balls out there who think it might take things a little longer to gel. 

 

36 minutes ago, Matt said:

Besides be a little bit more respectful, alot of those player gave us something we never thought we'd see....Or does that line only work regards Morgan.

The **** are you going on about, Matt you've lost the plot go to bed or something. I said ageing or shit players, you have no idea who is ranked as what to me. You think the likes Benny, Must, Slimani have done anything for this club?

 

36 minutes ago, Matt said:

If we have such snakes and bad apples in the club why do we keep giving them long bleeding contracts on more money. I understand there is alot of money involved, they're assets which we can sell but if they have a decent amount of time left why tie them down for longer when it would benefit the club if they left. Again that's not Puel's fault as I don't think he had any say on the matter but someone (Not Puel) has to be accountable for it.

Not everyone has signed new contracts... we have ****s, Okazaki, Wes, Benny in their last years, the likes of King, Simpson, surplus to requirements. There are too many people hanging around, who probably think they should be involved when they aren't really a viable long term option any more. Then naff signings like Silva, Iborra kicking their heels.

[Babylon]

20 minutes ago, Smudge said:

Fook me, this is a red letter day 

Feck off 

[Matt]

1 minute ago, Babylon said:

 

We're 9 games into the season, he also didn't have the full squad together until about three days before the start of the season. Nobody, as far as I remember said anyone should expect instant results. Believe it or not, not everyone decides whether players or systems are good enough after 9 games. Sometimes, there  are clearly some odd balls out there who think it might take things a little longer to gel.

But very little has changed. Apparently we're seeing improvement? I see very little. 30 minutes on Monday was very good, very impressive, thats literally it, in a whole year.

 

3 minutes ago, Babylon said:

The **** are you going on about, Matt you've lost the plot go to bed or something. I said ageing or shit players, you have no idea who is ranked as what to me. You think the likes Benny, Must, Slimani have done anything for this club?

The amount of shit I got on here for voicing my opinions on Slimani.

 

 

Not necessarily you, but some on here obviously thought he did something.

 

5 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Not everyone has signed new contracts... we have ****s, Okazaki, Wes, Benny in their last years, the likes of King, Simpson, surplus to requirements. There are too many people hanging around, who probably think they should be involved when they aren't really a viable long term option any more. Then naff signings like Silva, Iborra kicking their heels.

Correct but i'm looking at alot of people now calling Vardy for player power, he's signed a new contract.

 

Now I personally am not saying we shouldn't have gave him a new contract but my point remains, if he is at root of player power and people want rid of that in the club surely in the long run we'd be better of without him. I'm just putting that out there.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Matt said:

But very little has changed. Apparently we're seeing improvement? I see very little. 30 minutes on Monday was very good, very impressive, thats literally it, in a whole year.

 

 

So nothing for a year and then 30minutes in the last match.

 

Seems like the definition of improvement.

[Matt]

1 minute ago, FIF said:

So nothing for a year and then 30minutes in the last match.

 

Seems like the definition of improvement.

Ok. This time next year I might be able to say 1 hour of entertainment in 2 years then. Can't wait, Puel in!

Edited 27 October 2018 by Matt

[dnewty]

Since puel arrived I can't remember one 90mins were I've been genuinely excited. Transition or not it's not good enough 

[Babylon]

1 minute ago, Matt said:

But very little has changed. Apparently we're seeing improvement? I see very little. 30 minutes on Monday was very good, very impressive, thats literally it, in a whole year.

 

The amount of shit I got on here for voicing my opinions on Slimani.

 

 

Not necessarily you, but some on here obviously thought he did something.

 

Correct but i'm looking at alot of people now calling Vardy for player power, he's signed a new contract.

 

Now I personally am not saying we shouldn't have gave him a new contract but my point remains, if he is at root of player power and people want rid of that in the club surely in the long run we'd be better of without him. I'm just putting that out there.

Well I thought we played good stuff against all three big teams we've played. We're controlling the smaller teams and dispatching them easier, and we're certainly getting better at the passing side of it. The passing, barring the Arsenal game after the goal is far more comfortable and not breaking down as much as it was. The improvements have been slow and minor. It's been a bit too slow for me personally, but I've always said I give managers 18 months and thats when I really expect to be seeing their changes taking shape. 

 

If they don't like him, I have no problem with them voicing that with those higher up should they feel the need to. Let it be dealt with internally, people going public like Vardy has stinks. He's just the tip of the iceberg, with so many not involved there are going to be loads silently dragging others down, and I'd bet the vast majority are those not involved regularly. 

 

Pearson got heavily criticised for bombing out the likes of Danns, Beckford and Mills at the time. But when the details come out later down the line and he or those in the camp explain why. It's because they weren't team players, they'd affect the squad with negative attitude. Snidey little comments behind peoples back, loads of moaning etc. It creates a negative environment and will drag others into it. What he did so well was isolate them quickly and get rid or get them away from the first team. 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, dnewty said:

Since puel arrived I can't remember one 90mins were I've been genuinely excited. Transition or not it's not good enough 

 

Yet we haven't been relegated and we're sitting mid-table already looking pretty safe this season.

 

I think some supporters have a very unrealistic view of LCFC's place in world football.

[sylofox]

3 hours ago, UniFox21 said:

I was just trying to see your reasoning behind your point, not questioning your post 

Will be interesting to see the team selection, a riled up Vardy coming off the bench with a point to prove isn't a bad thing to have in the locker. 

 

 

Hmmmmm that's one side of the coin.

[reynard]

5 minutes ago, FIF said:

 

Yet we haven't been relegated and we're sitting mid-table already looking pretty safe this season.

 

I think some supporters have a very unrealistic view of LCFC's place in world football.

I think we should wait to see where we are at the end of November before we make presumptions like this. A lot could change in the next 5 games. Hard to see many if any points in December.

[ramadaone]

Turkish delight 

[HighPeakFox]

1 minute ago, ramadaone said:

Turkish delight 

Info or hunch?

[Old Fox]

5 hours ago, Fox92 said:

 What.

 

So as long as we've got Vardy we've got to play one style? Says more about the player than any manager we hire.

 

"Fans backing this should be careful what they wish for"? Fans wanting yet another manager sacked should be careful what they wish for because in 5 years time when we're finishing 17th in the Championship again, 12th in the Premier League will be a dream. You can't keep sacking managers when you're an average club.

 

How have we gone backwards? Puel came in when we were in the bottom three and finished 9th. In fact, Puel is the first manager since O'Neill to not have us in a relegation battle in this league. We've gone backwards within the last 18 months because we didn't retain the title. Overall, this is our 5th season back in the PL and we are currently 12th.

Where did I state one style of play to suit Vardy?? We definitely needed to adapt but not rip up the whole basis that won us the league.

 

Its a fact that more players than just Vardy are bemused by CP and you may be happy with mid-table mediocrity or comparing us to an average club but fortunately our owners are not - we have a really decent squad through the recruitment with some good players signed up on deals due to the owners ambitions for the club. However, the treatment of some players and the random tactical changes that are made along with a ponderous approach will ultimately cost him his job and not before long!

 

I fail to see anything optimistic in the style, tactics or the leadership of CP - we need to change for the better and the sooner we do it the better in my book and I think if he carries through with his actions of alienating our best attacking threat he will only accelerate the inevitable!