FoxNotFox Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 35 minutes ago, fazzyfox said: Does anyone think they'll have the arrogance to leave Kane on the bench considering the Barca game coming up? They'd still have decent options but nothing like as lethal. It's a good idea Pochy, I thoroughly recommend it. Please. Whilst I'd kind of agree (in a cowardly way) wouldn't it be much nicer to beat Spurs with him in the side! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 11 minutes ago, Deeg67 said: I think that's absolutely possible, and I don't think it's arrogance either. Tottenham should be prioritizing the Barca game over the league game without any question. And obviously, they're more likely to be good enough to get a result without Kane against us than they are Barca. Possible but I'm not convinced, an outside chance of beating Barcelona or a better than evens chance of finishing 3rd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 21 minutes ago, FoxNotFox said: Simply, we lose possession and leave ourselves exposed. It's a tactic to aim for perhaps if you have the CBs capable of doing it - which Wes isn't and Maguire is hit and miss. Edit: oh, and.... ...chill out. Opinions and all that, we don't have to agree. Besides, mine is not a 'criticism', it's an observation.... but "out of the closet" - what's that all about? We have a CB,that can!!! He's also proved it also in international colours...have your opinion,no probs,but when it shows no pre or afterthought,then expect another opinion that shoots across thy bows!! I dislike clossets,use to be scared what might spring out,and disturb my perfect CB world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxNotFox Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 18 minutes ago, fuchsntf said: when it shows no pre or afterthought Now come on, Is there any need for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 3 minutes ago, FoxNotFox said: Now come on, Is there any need for that? After I thought pre and After it!! Naaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Wall Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 I'd be surprised if Spurs rest anyone for visiting us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachhere Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 6 minutes ago, Max Wall said: I'd be surprised if Spurs rest anyone for visiting us. You think they are writing off the Barcelona match then? I don't really see how they have a chance of winning that match unless they do rest some players and can go in full strengths. It's 7.45pm kick off on the Saturday with them travelling away from home, and then they need to get everyone over to Spain for their match on Tuesday. I would be tired just thinking of that as a fan, let alone a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxNotFox Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 1 minute ago, fuchsntf said: After I thought pre and After it!! Naaa Shame. In shooting from the hip, as you have, you have seemingly missed what I was saying (and indeed didn't say). This leads me to believe you did not consider what I wrote, and simply responded to what you thought I was saying. I think what I said was both balanced and considered. We have been conceding fewer goals of late, no? Maguire has been out of the side (through injury), no? Now, I'm not blaming Maguire for the goals but I am saying there has (perhaps) been a tactical shift. Our central defenders have not been venturing forward as they once were doing. Now I don't know if that's a deliberate tactical change from Puel (due to whatever) but I simply posed the question and, further, it does interest me as to whether the re-introduction of Maguire will see the CBs going forward again. I was neither critical of Maguire (that he has lost possession doing it is evident, and has caused us problems) nor was I critical of the tactic itself, merely thinking aloud about the situation. Now by all means offer your thoughts on the matter but please do me the courtesy of not being rude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Wall Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 2 minutes ago, rachhere said: You think they are writing off the Barcelona match then? I don't really see how they have a chance of winning that match unless they do rest some players and can go in full strengths. It's 7.45pm kick off on the Saturday with them travelling away from home, and then they need to get everyone over to Spain for their match on Tuesday. I would be tired just thinking of that as a fan, let alone a player. I take that point but, realistically, Pochettino knows they are likely to be out of the competition. I'm certainly not expecting a shadow team from Spurs by any means. They may not start with their very strongest 11 but, even if they don't, their 'rested' players will be on the bench ready to come on if it doesn't go their way. I still expect a very strong starting 11 from them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrefelderFox666 Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 7 minutes ago, rachhere said: You think they are writing off the Barcelona match then? I don't really see how they have a chance of winning that match unless they do rest some players and can go in full strengths. It's 7.45pm kick off on the Saturday with them travelling away from home, and then they need to get everyone over to Spain for their match on Tuesday. I would be tired just thinking of that as a fan, let alone a player. These are professionals getting paid to do their job, they are fit enough to play two games a week. It just means the training takes a bit of a back seat for the busy period. They will play full strength. The only thing that might happen is that they take the foot off the gas if they are 2 or 3 up with 30 mins to go. Then you might see sloppy play and some big early subs (like Kane etc). But expect the strongest Spurs team from the start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haywood_6 Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 4 minutes ago, rachhere said: You think they are writing off the Barcelona match then? I don't really see how they have a chance of winning that match unless they do rest some players and can go in full strengths. It's 7.45pm kick off on the Saturday with them travelling away from home, and then they need to get everyone over to Spain for their match on Tuesday. I would be tired just thinking of that as a fan, let alone a player. Haven't spurs have recently got players back from Injury? Eriksen, Son, Rose, Ali. Some of there best players Think we'll put up a decent fight but lose this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxNotFox Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 I've just seen that it's an evening kick off so I won't be watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Max Wall said: I take that point but, realistically, Pochettino knows they are likely to be out of the competition. I'm certainly not expecting a shadow team from Spurs by any means. They may not start with their very strongest 11 but, even if they don't, their 'rested' players will be on the bench ready to come on if it doesn't go their way. I still expect a very strong starting 11 from them though. Likely to be out of the competition? Inter is no powerhouse that can be guaranteed a win against Eindhoven, and Barcelona has already won the group - it's entirely possibly they'll rest some of their top players for the Tottenham match. How in the world can you write off the Champion's League when you're in the final game of the group stage with a legit chance to move on? Edited 7 December 2018 by Deeg67 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Wall Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Deeg67 said: Likely to be out of the competition? Inter is no powerhouse that can be guaranteed a win against Eindhoven, and Barcelona has already won the group - it's entirely possibly they'll rest some of their top places for the Tottenham match. How in the world can you write off the Champion's League when you're in the final game of the group stage with a legit chance to move on? I didn't say they'd written it off. I said, realistically, Pochettino knows they are likely to be out of the competition. That's why I used the word likely. Tottenham have the more difficult task (on paper obviously), whether Barca rest a few players or not. It's not insurmountable for them of course, I just don't see Pochettino making wholesale changes for this weekend, which was the original point. Of course, I could be entirely wrong mate Edited 7 December 2018 by Max Wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 1 minute ago, Max Wall said: I didn't say they'd written it off. I said, realistically, Pochettino knows they are likely to be out of the competition. That's why I used the word likely. Tottenham have the more difficult task (on paper obviously), whether Barca rest a few players or not. The bookies odds would back up that statement too. It's not insurmountable for them of course, I just don't see Pochettino making wholesale changes for this weekend, which was the original point. Of course, I could be entirely wrong mate Well, we'll see. If I were in his shoes I would absolutely proioritize Barca (which was my original point) and I think that means resting a couple of guys, especially the ones not fully match fit coming off injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Wall Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 Just now, Deeg67 said: Well, we'll see. If I were in his shoes I would absolutely proioritize Barca (which was my original point) and I think that means resting a couple of guys, especially the ones not fully match fit coming off injuries. That's a whole different argument. If there's players not fully fit and coming off injuries, he'd be a mug to play them, why would he do that regardless of what games lie ahead? I've also already said he may not start with his very strongest 11 but I don't expect a shadow 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowlattsFox Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 (edited) Spurs can definitely win in Barcelona, with them already group winners. I think they will have a mind on that but I don't think they'll rest Kane. Ndidi keeps his place for this one as we're likely to be without the ball more. Ricardo obviously comes back in, part of me expects it will be Simpson and Ricardo on the right. Albrighton going over to the left. If Vardy isn't available I think I'd be tempted to go with Gray/Diabate down the middle instead of Iheanacho. Edited 7 December 2018 by RowlattsFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancunianfox Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 Spurs to rest players, draw against us and then bottle it against Barca with a rested first choice XI. You've heard it hear first / seen it too many times before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxed Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 I didn't realise they're playing Barca on Tuesday. Surely they're going to try to get something at Barca? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 Think we'll get well beaten sadly. We're on an OK run but have had a very favourite run of fixtures. This is where it ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 I'm hoping big Was turns up to watch and gets a sudden urge to run onto the pitch and snap Deli Ali in two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 6 hours ago, ozleicester said: To be fair, we generally do better against bigger sides as they come to play and that usually allows us some space, without VArdy it is more difficult to take advantage, but im going for an ugly 1-0 win Do we? So far this season we have played 5 of the top 8 and lost every single game. Under Puel our record against what you'd class as the top teams resulted in only 2 wins and 2 draws against Spurs, Arsenal and Man Utd and Chelsea. Lost every other game last season as well as this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancunianfox Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 5 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Do we? So far this season we have played 5 of the top 8 and lost every single game. Under Puel our record against what you'd class as the top teams resulted in only 2 wins and 2 draws against Spurs, Arsenal and Man Utd and Chelsea. Lost every other game last season as well as this season. Our record is terrible but to be fair to the we have played well in most of those games despite not picking up any points. It seems that our supporters are now happier when we lose and play well and unhappy when we win and play badly. Figure that out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gevans_97 Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 Vardy officially unavailable for Saturday. Formation change probably necessary as I can't see Iheanacho playing well on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 7 December 2018 Share Posted 7 December 2018 46 minutes ago, Gevans_97 said: Vardy officially unavailable for Saturday. Formation change probably necessary as I can't see Iheanacho playing well on his own. I think he will play gray up there like he did against Liverpool - that didn’t work too well until nacho came on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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