Jardim to Leicester?

[TheStig]

7 hours ago, Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo said:

Could we dig up Clough's corpse and just stand it upright in the technical area? Probably motivate the players a bit perhaps. Are there any laws against this sort of thing?

Enough dead bodies in the team as it is...

[Farrington fox]

On the basis he can’t possibly do any worse than Puel, gerimin. 

[murphy]

15 hours ago, StriderHiryu said:

Jardim is a top class manager with a great recent track record...

I don't know a great deal about him, so I bow to your better judgement, but isn't his honours about the same as Puel's?  One Ligue 1 title.

 

You might argue that Puel's was the greater achievement without the players Jardim had at his disposal?

[murphy]

1 hour ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

Sure, i'm not having a go at us for it

 

Its still rich of us to criticise Puel for it

 

And theres no excuse for the abysmal sense of humour that prompts people to keep writing qualiteeee and intensiteeee

 

Shakespeare is a native English speaker, but wasnt constantly taken the piss out of for repeating himself every interview

No, I agree, I included your quote for context, but my response was to @lifted*fox's dig at us English plebians.  I find it a little strange, that's all.

 

I agree with you on all points above.  I really couldn't care less how he comes across in interviews and you're right, that qualiteeee etc 'joke' is about as funny as stubbing your toe in the dark.

[Max Wall]

42 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

Dont know anything about him. But everything thats been said of him could just as easily be used against him as for him. Just as happens with Puel

 

Same people calling for Puel out are the same who slate Gray and Nacho and Ndidi and Mendy to bits, yet most of these players are our starting players.

 

I look at our performances and think the players arent that great and we need long term structure to improve, not more chopping and changing.

 

I think there is a naivety to just think that a new manager will come in here and be a success. It could just as easily backfire, so better to leave it until its right and we can do it in a considered manner

 

Still mid table for now so not to worry, we wont get relegated. We need to use the January window. 

Yep, that's pretty much what I think.

[lifted*fox]

     

6 minutes ago, murphy said:

No, I agree, I included your quote for context, but my response was to @lifted*fox's dig at us English plebians.  I find it a little strange, that's all.

 

it's a dig at the type of people who moan about Puel's imperfect english when they've probably never even bothered to try and mutter a word of anyone else's language in their entire lifetime due to an over-inflated sense of self-importance and patriotism. 

[Max Wall]

15 minutes ago, murphy said:

I really couldn't care less how he comes across in interviews and you're right, that qualiteeee etc 'joke' is about as funny as stubbing your toe in the dark.

I totally agree with this.

[StriderHiryu]

41 minutes ago, murphy said:

I don't know a great deal about him, so I bow to your better judgement, but isn't his honours about the same as Puel's?  One Ligue 1 title.

 

You might argue that Puel's was the greater achievement without the players Jardim had at his disposal?

Yep completely true, so no saying he’d work out. That said Jardim won his title a lot more recently. 

 

No one wants Puel to fail because we’d all love to have a successful team to follow playing great football. But if he does end up going, this guy is surely worth consideration!

[cityfanlee23]

Sack Puel and replace him with a manager who has the same tactical approach to football, but had more success due to having a world class team last season. 

[NasPb]

5 minutes ago, cityfanlee23 said:

Sack Puel and replace him with a manager who has the same tactical approach to football, but had more success due to having a world class team last season. 

for me the tactics are not the problem, it is that puel simply is not a motivator and cannot get the best out of this team during the whole 90 minutes

[cityfanlee23]

18 minutes ago, NasPb said:

for me the tactics are not the problem, it is that puel simply is not a motivator and cannot get the best out of this team during the whole 90 minutes

I understand the logic but why is it the managers responsibility to motivate them? 

They aren't in some sort of mundane job that they get poorly paid for, they are doing one of the most enjoyable jobs in the world for a stupid sum on money with thousands of fans cheering them on? 

If that is the sort of player we have in our ranks I would rather sell them tbh.

[Mike Oxlong]

If he can spin plates and ride a fvckin unicycle gerrimin. 

[Max Wall]

4 minutes ago, Mike Oxlong said:

If he can spin plates and ride a fvckin unicycle gerrimin. 

He be better to be experienced in hormonal cycles given the state of some of our supporters.

[Bayfox]

3 hours ago, The Doctor said:

Well not really, we've had 4 real injuries this season - Vardys groin strain (picked up with England and never properly recovered from), Maguire's knee, Grays ankle and Amarteys ankle (all freak accidents during matches). Miles away from outdated training methods causing regular training injuries, as it was at Arsenal

Evans, iborra, chillwell, the fact we have played vardy when not fully fit. 

 

Fact is one way or another we are suffering more issues than the last 4 seasons put together.

[Bayfox]

1 hour ago, NasPb said:

for me the tactics are not the problem, it is that puel simply is not a motivator and cannot get the best out of this team during the whole 90 minutes

Well if the tactics are to play with 2 attacking full backs and Marc Albrighton and get the ball wide and cross to........

 

 

Then yes they are part of the problem.

[The Doctor]

46 minutes ago, Bayfox said:

Evans, iborra, chillwell, the fact we have played vardy when not fully fit. 

 

Fact is one way or another we are suffering more issues than the last 4 seasons put together.

Except we're not, we had loads of them first season back up.

[RumbleFox]

52 minutes ago, Bayfox said:

Evans, iborra, chillwell, the fact we have played vardy when not fully fit. 

 

Fact is one way or another we are suffering more issues than the last 4 seasons put together.

The title season alone was the only one where we didn't really get any injuries and that was a freak.  

[mad biker]

Oh we had injuries Rumble but it`s amazing how quickly they heal when your top of the league :-)

 

[foxinsocks]

Can we get any plane tracking to stand this up or is it all gossip? 

[Ric Flair]

3 hours ago, cityfanlee23 said:

I understand the logic but why is it the managers responsibility to motivate them? 

They aren't in some sort of mundane job that they get poorly paid for, they are doing one of the most enjoyable jobs in the world for a stupid sum on money with thousands of fans cheering them on? 

If that is the sort of player we have in our ranks I would rather sell them tbh.

Because that's just the way it is when theres a team, you need someone with the delicate skills to get as many of them as possible to achieve their maximum. It's an art form.

[Dan]

6 hours ago, StriderHiryu said:

@Max Wall Jardim fell out with management at a number of his clubs and is supposedly a strong character. In Greece he was let go despite the team being 10 points clear in first place. So I get the feeling he doesn’t take any shit. 

 

At Monaco he gelled those players into a team and improved all of them. Yes those players were talented, but he and the coaching team helped make them what they are today. 

 

All moot or unless he came here but he’s proven himself to be a great coach and is still in his forties. 

Probably rules him out of here then.

[turkish14]

11 hours ago, cityfanlee23 said:

I understand the logic but why is it the managers responsibility to motivate them? 

They aren't in some sort of mundane job that they get poorly paid for, they are doing one of the most enjoyable jobs in the world for a stupid sum on money with thousands of fans cheering them on? 

If that is the sort of player we have in our ranks I would rather sell them tbh.

Or in the case of Iheanacho..booing an jeering.

 

players irrespective of wealth or platform that they are “performing on” adapt to situations differently. 

 

To just assume that they should all take to the pitch fully motivated and ready in every game (in my opinion) is naive and ignorant.

 

the manager/coaching team have a responsibility to try and get the best out of the players. If lack of motivation is one of them, then it clearly in my view needs looking into.

[HighPeakFox]

I've largely avoided the forum since the loss at Palace...i'll give this thread credit for at least offering an alternative manager. I have no issue with people wanting better/different, but do tire of the (apparent) FM2018 mentality of 'well what we need is a manager that does x, a CM that does y and a CF that scores 80 a season'.

 

Because of course all those things are desirable in a perfect world where Man City et al aren't hoovering up all the very best talent, and wouldn't it be lovely...however, until people come up with credible names, fantasy wish-lists of a type of player that doesn't exist, or at least is simply not coming to Leicester, then the whole argument is for the birds as far as I'm concerned.