Strokes Posted 18 March 2019 Share Posted 18 March 2019 4 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said: Furry muff. But I'm pretty sure we were told the referendum was advisory, not final. Legally it was advisory but we told by both campaigns and in the governments leaflet spam drop it would be followed. Not quite on the side of a bus but it’s the same principle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 18 March 2019 Share Posted 18 March 2019 5 minutes ago, Carl the Llama said: Furry muff. But I'm pretty sure we were told the referendum was advisory, not final. 3 minutes ago, MattP said: From the official government leaflet explaining it to us. https://fullfact.org/europe/was-eu-referendum-advisory/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 18 March 2019 Share Posted 18 March 2019 Just now, Carl the Llama said: https://fullfact.org/europe/was-eu-referendum-advisory/ Yes I'm aware of that. You claimed the government told us that though - which they didn't. They instead told us they would implement the decision as my post shows you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellend Sebastian Posted 18 March 2019 Share Posted 18 March 2019 17 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said: You haven't been to Coventry then I have, and I thought the post war reconstruction was carried out sympathetically to the extent that the residents were probably glad it was almost destroyed 11 minutes ago, Buce said: I read a couple of quotes from people who were taking part. One said, “If we don’t leave we’ll all be conscripted into an EU army led by the Germans”; the other (an ex soldier) said as he looked at all the Union flags, “It’s wonderful - it reminds me of when we followed the flag across the Falklands”. Of course, just to be clear, the idea that any Brexit voters were thick or racist is just another lie told by bitter Remainers. If the EU army he's worried about invades I'll be the first to collaborate with them. I've just seen that the March To Leave calls in at Cropston. Cropston! If any of them are still alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 18 March 2019 Share Posted 18 March 2019 Given how shitty you all got about the NHS bus being a promise, I think it would be hypocritical not to consider the vote binding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 18 March 2019 Share Posted 18 March 2019 Just now, Strokes said: Given how shitty you all got about the NHS bus being a promise, I think it would be hypocritical not to consider the vote binding. I got shitty about the bus because it couldn't possibly be a promise yet it was a key campaign tool used to sway people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 18 March 2019 Share Posted 18 March 2019 1 minute ago, Carl the Llama said: I got shitty about the bus because it couldn't possibly be a promise yet it was a key campaign tool used to sway people. Yes, well this coming from the government was a promise. I wouldn’t have bothered voting without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 18 March 2019 Share Posted 18 March 2019 2 minutes ago, MattP said: Yes I'm aware of that. You claimed the government told us that though - which they didn't. They instead told us they would implement the decision as my post shows you. Tbf I never looked into how legally binding the vote was before the fact because I underestimated how callously stupid this country was about to prove itself so I never paid that passage much due, but afterwards every legal expert and their mum were saying not to worry it's only advisory, sanity still has a chance, so that's what I was referring to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 18 March 2019 Share Posted 18 March 2019 Not that I'm calling every leaver stupid btw, I quite like some of you guys, I just really dislike your decision making. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 18 March 2019 Share Posted 18 March 2019 1 minute ago, Carl the Llama said: Tbf I never looked into how legally binding the vote was before the fact because I underestimated how callously stupid this country was about to prove itself so I never paid that passage much due, but afterwards every legal expert and their mum were saying not to worry it's only advisory, sanity still has a chance, so that's what I was referring to. Who knows what the future holds? It might be the sanest decision we ever made, none of us know - every time someone like GV opens his mouth any doubt I have soon subsides. That said it's irrelevant now whether it was binding now anyway as parliament triggered Article 50 (thanks to Gina Miller) and enshrined into law that we leave. If the public wanted to reverse decision they had the chance as well in the summer of 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 18 March 2019 Share Posted 18 March 2019 The latest about Madeleine's disappearance and the hearsay about what happened etc is starting to get frustrating let alone obviously sad. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8660431/madeleine-mccann-mother-kate-abduction-kidnapper-previous-attempt/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
String fellow Posted 18 March 2019 Share Posted 18 March 2019 Would the Speaker allow a vote of confidence in the Speaker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 'expert' Lawrenson Posted 19 March 2019 Share Posted 19 March 2019 I swear that that guy shouting outside Westminster is there every morning, I wondered if it was Jeremy Corbyn singing “we’re not ganna brexit anymore” over and over, amusing and annoying at the same time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ealingfox Posted 19 March 2019 Share Posted 19 March 2019 Absolutely howling at these front pages. The pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted 19 March 2019 Share Posted 19 March 2019 He cited a parliamentary rule dating from 1604 which states that a defeated motion could not be brought back in the same form during the course of a parliamentary session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 19 March 2019 Share Posted 19 March 2019 19 minutes ago, Izzy said: He cited a parliamentary rule dating from 1604 which states that a defeated motion could not be brought back in the same form during the course of a parliamentary session. That merely shows how far back the convention goes, bro. It's not some obscure rule that was used once 400 years ago, it has been implemented many times since. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 19 March 2019 Share Posted 19 March 2019 45 minutes ago, Izzy said: He cited a parliamentary rule dating from 1604 which states that a defeated motion could not be brought back in the same form during the course of a parliamentary session. I'm delighted he actually held precedent for once - it's something good the speaker should be doing. Very important if you value our constitution. It's just a shame he goes against it when it suits him. For what it's worth I think he's done a May a favour, 22 ERG said in a letter to the Telegraph they were not going to support it so looking at the numbers it was going to be defeated again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 19 March 2019 Share Posted 19 March 2019 46 minutes ago, Izzy said: He cited a parliamentary rule dating from 1604 which states that a defeated motion could not be brought back in the same form during the course of a parliamentary session. That doesn't mean it was the last time it was used. it shows that it has been part of our decision making process since before Notts forest won the European cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 19 March 2019 Share Posted 19 March 2019 11 minutes ago, MattP said: I'm delighted he actually held precedent for once - it's something good the speaker should be doing. Very important if you value our constitution. It's just a shame he goes against it when it suits him. For what it's worth I think he's done a May a favour, 22 ERG said in a letter to the Telegraph they were not going to support it so looking at the numbers it was going to be defeated again. The UK doesn’t have a constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 19 March 2019 Share Posted 19 March 2019 4 minutes ago, Buce said: The UK doesn’t have a constitution. I'd argue Erskine May is effectively the constitutional document of the UK parliament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 19 March 2019 Share Posted 19 March 2019 I’m delighted that Bercow has killed this deal. Regardless of what the consequences might be. TMs tactics were appalling. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davieG Posted 19 March 2019 Share Posted 19 March 2019 UK employment at highest since 1971 The number of employed people in the UK has risen again, to a new record number of 32.7 million people between November and January, figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show. The 76.1% employment rate is the highest since records began in 1971. Unemployment fell by 35,000 to 1.34 million in the period, putting the rate below 4% for the first time since 1975. The figure is 112,000 lower than a year ago, giving a jobless rate of 3.9%, well below the EU average of 6.5%. Average weekly earnings, excluding bonuses, were estimated to have increased by 3.4%, before adjusting for inflation, down by 0.1% on the previous month but still outpacing inflation.. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47622415 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 19 March 2019 Share Posted 19 March 2019 It is quite amazing that Brexit is still due to happen in 10 days, the government haven't got a clue, the EU are the EU and yet the banking system hasn't collapsed, the pound hasn't withered, the stock market hasn't folded in on itself, people haven't been leaving/entering the UK in droves..... Perhaps the people are a little more resilient than we were led to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innovindil Posted 19 March 2019 Share Posted 19 March 2019 6 minutes ago, FIF said: It is quite amazing that Brexit is still due to happen in 10 days, the government haven't got a clue, the EU are the EU and yet the banking system hasn't collapsed, the pound hasn't withered, the stock market hasn't folded in on itself, people haven't been leaving/entering the UK in droves..... Perhaps the people are a little more resilient than we were led to believe. What are you talking about. The country is in chaos, jobs are leaving in their thousands, medicine is becoming scarce and Friday night is no longer steak night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgefox Posted 19 March 2019 Share Posted 19 March 2019 3 hours ago, Mark 'expert' Lawrenson said: I swear that that guy shouting outside Westminster is there every morning, I wondered if it was Jeremy Corbyn singing “we’re not ganna brexit anymore” over and over, amusing and annoying at the same time. Why they bother doing broadcasts there,I find it funny. last week BBC Breakfast were sited there for the whole show,and so was he.Half singing,Half shouting. Does it matter if they are there or not. My Mrs said it sounds like our house in the morning except he is more mature! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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