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[Grebfromgrebland]

I think the main reason is to stop kids accidentally going into porn sites which is good.

 

Also all this porn is apparently skewing boys idea of what sex and relationships are like in the real world and kind of ****ing things up for the next generation. 

 

I'm beginning to think the internet does more harm than good for society. 

[Guest]

Algiers:

 

 

I've learned, over the last few years living here in France, that Algerians are some of the friendliest and most open people in the world. It wasn't a view I held 30 years ago reading western media sources. I hope that this transition can be mostly peaceful and lead to the type of country that young Algerians want and also to the tourism and associated income that can help their country to prosper.

[Strokes]

2 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

I think the main reason is to stop kids accidentally going into porn sites which is good.

 

Also all this porn is apparently skewing boys idea of what sex and relationships are like in the real world and kind of ****ing things up for the next generation. 

 

I'm beginning to think the internet does more harm than good for society. 

It certainly has some dark elements, I do think we parents are responsible for making sure that our kids can’t access such things though. It really isn’t that hard to self regulate.

[Dr The Singh]

1 hour ago, FIF said:

Algiers:

 

 

I've learned, over the last few years living here in France, that Algerians are some of the friendliest and most open people in the world. It wasn't a view I held 30 years ago reading western media sources. I hope that this transition can be mostly peaceful and lead to the type of country that young Algerians want and also to the tourism and associated income that can help their country to prosper.

I think other then the French, you could say that about any set of people in the world, people tend to be 'good' in nature

[urban.spaceman]

2 hours ago, FIF said:

Algiers:

 

 

I've learned, over the last few years living here in France, that Algerians are some of the friendliest and most open people in the world. It wasn't a view I held 30 years ago reading western media sources. I hope that this transition can be mostly peaceful and lead to the type of country that young Algerians want and also to the tourism and associated income that can help their country to prosper.

Zoomed in & wasn't disappointed... 

 

[ozleicester]

2 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

Zoomed in & wasn't disappointed... 

 

youd think they, of anyone would know how to spell Mehrez

[Innovindil]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47601307

 

Tubby **** loses weight, tubby **** decides to preach full nanny state.

 

How about sod off and let people make their own decisions ffs.

[davieG]

Theresa May's Brexit deal will not return to the Commons this week unless it has support from the DUP and Tory MPs, the chancellor says. 

The PM's plan is expected to be voted on for a third time in the coming days. 

But Philip Hammond told the BBC's Andrew Marr that it would only be put to MPs if "enough of our colleagues and the DUP are prepared to support it".

He did not rule out a financial settlement for Northern Ireland if the DUP backed the deal.

The party, which has 10 MPs in the Commons, received £1bn as part of a confidence and supply agreement with the Tories after the last election - giving the government a working majority.

Mr Hammond said they did not have the numbers "yet" to secure Mrs May's deal, adding: "It is a work in progress". 

But he warned that, even with the DUP's support, a "short extension" would be needed to pass legislation in Parliament, adding that it was now "physically impossible" for the UK to leave the EU on 29 March.

[PloTok]

19 minutes ago, davieG said:

He did not rule out a financial settlement for Northern Ireland if the DUP backed the deal.

Is it just me or does anyone else find this just a little bit, well, grubby?

 

I don't know who I feel the more sickened by, the Govt or the DUP. Perhaps they deserve each other.

[Carl the Llama]

40 minutes ago, davieG said:

Theresa May's Brexit deal will not return to the Commons this week unless it has support from the DUP and Tory MPs, the chancellor says. 

The PM's plan is expected to be voted on for a third time in the coming days. 

But Philip Hammond told the BBC's Andrew Marr that it would only be put to MPs if "enough of our colleagues and the DUP are prepared to support it".

He did not rule out a financial settlement for Northern Ireland if the DUP backed the deal.

The party, which has 10 MPs in the Commons, received £1bn as part of a confidence and supply agreement with the Tories after the last election - giving the government a working majority.

Mr Hammond said they did not have the numbers "yet" to secure Mrs May's deal, adding: "It is a work in progress". 

But he warned that, even with the DUP's support, a "short extension" would be needed to pass legislation in Parliament, adding that it was now "physically impossible" for the UK to leave the EU on 29 March.

To clarify: They're proposing another vote not based on modifications to the twice rejected deal to make it more appealing, but based on whether they think they've bribed/coerced enough people in to changing their votes?

[davieG]

22 minutes ago, PloTok said:

Is it just me or does anyone else find this just a little bit, well, grubby?

 

I don't know who I feel the more sickened by, the Govt or the DUP. Perhaps they deserve each other.

Well there’s nothing new about it just a bit more in your face than normal. Local councils and ‘protest type groups’ have long since been ‘bribed’ with government funding. That’s how most of it is handed out these days with them having to submit  bids and the  government of the day deciding who gets what. So all politically influenced.

[Strokes]

2 hours ago, davieG said:

Well there’s nothing new about it just a bit more in your face than normal. Local councils and ‘protest type groups’ have long since been ‘bribed’ with government funding. That’s how most of it is handed out these days with them having to submit  bids and the  government of the day deciding who gets what. So all politically influenced.

I don’t think it’s ever been quite so in your face though, it’s not right that they can blatantly buy their way through this shambles with our money. This government is truly shameless.

[PloTok]

Conservative Party values. 

[Foxxed]

Labour are supporting some Tory thing about a referendum on a deal.

 

So neither Labour nor large swathes of the Tories like the deal.

 

So the referendum will likely fail and we'll be back in Brexit limbo.

 

The disunited kingdom of Brexit.

[davieG]

48 minutes ago, Strokes said:

I don’t think it’s ever been quite so in your face though, it’s not right that they can blatantly buy their way through this shambles with our money. This government is truly shameless.

 

Maybe, but you could argue that it's better that we all know it's happening rather than it happening without our knowledge and the reasons behind it.

 

Of course it would be better if our money was treated with more honesty but unfortunately it's a by product of party politics.

It's a bit like war the winners decide which are the truths and the lies without the general public having any insight.

[Grebfromgrebland]

7 hours ago, Innovindil said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47601307

 

Tubby **** loses weight, tubby **** decides to preach full nanny state.

 

How about sod off and let people make their own decisions ffs.

That's the point though isn't it? The human mind can be influenced to do things. Why do you think companies spend millions on advertising?

Because it works and now we're being advertised to constantly via our phones.

 

Like it or not but 99% of the decisions you make are because you've been conditioned to make them. You don't even know it's happening. 

 

Free will is an illusion. 

 

More money spent on advertising determines how humans behave. 

 

 

[PloTok]

Don't make it right though does it?

 

So, the DUP can change it's mind (sorry, be "influenced"... with money) but the country can't? That decision is set in stone seemingly.

[Innovindil]

13 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

That's the point though isn't it? The human mind can be influenced to do things. Why do you think companies spend millions on advertising?

Because it works and now we're being advertised to constantly via our phones.

 

Like it or not but 99% of the decisions you make are because you've been conditioned to make them. You don't even know it's happening. 

 

Free will is an illusion. 

 

More money spent on advertising determines how humans behave. 

 

 

What a pathetic attempt at dismissing personal responsibility. The adverts made me do it. Beeep booop.

 

If adverts were the be all and end all of free will I'd be playing clash of clans after seeing the advert roughly sixty billion times. 

[leicsmac]

14 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

That's the point though isn't it? The human mind can be influenced to do things. Why do you think companies spend millions on advertising?

Because it works and now we're being advertised to constantly via our phones.

 

Like it or not but 99% of the decisions you make are because you've been conditioned to make them. You don't even know it's happening. 

 

Free will is an illusion. 

 

More money spent on advertising determines how humans behave. 

 

 

 

15 minutes ago, Innovindil said:

What a pathetic attempt at dismissing personal responsibility. The adverts made me do it. Beeep booop.

 

If adverts were the be all and end all of free will I'd be playing clash of clans after seeing the advert roughly sixty billion times. 

Somewhere between these two IMO.

 

I'd like to think every human has sovereign free will to at least make some choices within their lives but it is by no means an absolute nor should the influence of other people over the life of an individual be underestimated - it can and does mean that, for instance, sometimes all of those choices are net negative ones.

 

There is a reason that the advertising industry is so massive and trends are a thing.

 

Personal responsibility is the route you choose to take and you are accountable for that, but the responsibility for routes you, for whatever reason, cannot take, do not lie with the individual IMO.

[Innovindil]

7 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

 

Somewhere between these two IMO.

 

I'd like to think every human has sovereign free will to at least make some choices within their lives but it is by no means an absolute nor should the influence of other people over the life of an individual be underestimated - it can and does mean that, for instance, sometimes all of those choices are net negative ones.

 

There is a reason that the advertising industry is so massive and trends are a thing.

 

Personal responsibility is the route you choose to take and you are accountable for that, but the responsibility for routes you, for whatever reason, cannot take, do not lie with the individual IMO.

Nobody is saying there isn't. Of course advertising is massive, who the hell is going to purchase something they don't know about. But to somehow link popular trends with a disassociation from free will is barking up the looney tree. 

 

We're not talking about the effects people have on people, that's a completely different subject, this is on advertising. 

 

If I see an advert for something, i don't just go beep boop and buy it do I. I go through the process of whether I want/need it and in the end it's my decision. To think otherwise is some tinfoil hat nonsense. 

[leicsmac]

1 hour ago, Innovindil said:

Nobody is saying there isn't. Of course advertising is massive, who the hell is going to purchase something they don't know about. But to somehow link popular trends with a disassociation from free will is barking up the looney tree. 

 

We're not talking about the effects people have on people, that's a completely different subject, this is on advertising. 

 

If I see an advert for something, i don't just go beep boop and buy it do I. I go through the process of whether I want/need it and in the end it's my decision. To think otherwise is some tinfoil hat nonsense. 

Ah sorry, thought you were making a point about personal responsibility in general rather than just about advertising.

 

Advertising is certainly manipulative but it doesn't really come close to the type of control other areas can exhibit, then.

[Guest MattP]

What do we want?

Action on climate change 

When do we want it?

During double maths 

[leicsmac]

5 minutes ago, MattP said:

What do we want?

Action on climate change 

When do we want it?

During double maths 

Fair, but then I don't see any other bastard taking the necessary action - including those who are supposed to actually be thinking ahead and getting the said action running.

[Carl the Llama]

14 minutes ago, MattP said:

What do we want?

Action on climate change 

When do we want it?

During double maths 

Tbf education isn't going to be much use when we're all standing neck deep in sea water and surrounded by wildfires.

[leicsmac]

1 minute ago, Carl the Llama said:

Tbf education isn't going to be much use when we're all standing neck deep in sea water and surrounded by wildfires.

Don't forget the microplastic-infested fish for dinner.