stretch1965 Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 I really wanted this to work for him , feel for the man but it is a results business and you can only work with what you have got.
Woodsey1727 Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 Time to retire or go into director of football role
Wolfox Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 I was going to give him a little wave and shed a tiny tear when he turned up too… It was an impossible job…. The next manager will fail as well…
Fox92 Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 Not good enough to get teams out of a mess. They should have got for Big Sam ages ago.
Tanya Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 He was a bit clueless but I think the damage was done. Their defence is truly dire. I love him still. I hope we build a statue of him at the KP. Sure a lot of things went his way but we wouldn't have won the title without him.
Fox92 Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 1 minute ago, Wolfox said: I was going to give him a little wave and shed a tiny tear when he turned up too… It was an impossible job…. The next manager will fail as well… It wasn't when he took over. A manager with experience of keeping teams up would have picked points up where he hasn't. Fulham fans don't seem to rate him and they watch him every week. Just hope this shuts the people up that said we shouldn't have got rid. We would have gone down if he'd had stayed.
FoxyPalace.com Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 Get him work with us behind the scenes, great guy deserves it
The Horse's Mouth Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 Either retire or end up back at Roma
Guest SO1 Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 Have to say i'm a bit saddened by this. He's an excellent manager who tried to turn it around for a club that doesn't have a clue. Basically the owner has given the club to his son to play football manager with. They were playing great football last year only to replace a third of their squad with 100 million+ without the managers input. To top that they were purchased at the end of the summer with no time to bed in. Very hard for me and the other supporters to watch what transpired as Jokanovic and Ranieri tried to put something organized back together again. I'm an idiot though as I thought the owners were masterminds at the end of the summer with all their brand new French players. There are some definite gems for us to pick at the end of the season though.
HoustonFox Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 Wonder if the national press will call the players snakes and call Fulham a disgrace for letting him go?
Guest SO1 Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 8 minutes ago, Royston. said: Celtic? This guy won you the league! Why would you do that to him?
rn9013 Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 17 minutes ago, Tanya said: He was a bit clueless but I think the damage was done. Their defence is truly dire. I love him still. I hope we build a statue of him at the KP. Sure a lot of things went his way but we wouldn't have won the title without him. I love the guy too, and I agree we wouldn't have won the title without him. BUT...there are people I would rather see a statue of at the KP ahead of Claudio Ranieri. Vichai, Top, Vardy, Mahrez, and Morgan to name a few, all of whom had a larger impact on the football club than Claudio (imo).
don_danbury Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 18 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said: Either retire or end up back at Roma hopefully for his sake
Corky Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 Just enjoy your retirement Claudio, you've hit the heights, you're a great bloke, do some punditry and rest now.
Wolfox Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 43 minutes ago, Fox92 said: It wasn't when he took over. A manager with experience of keeping teams up would have picked points up where he hasn't. Fulham fans don't seem to rate him and they watch him every week. Just hope this shuts the people up that said we shouldn't have got rid. We would have gone down if he'd had stayed. Mmmhhhh…. Considering that they have a whole host of defenders who can’t defend, I believe they have greater issues than Ranieri… Nobody could shut me up about Ranieri and they way he was treated, but, I’m a dyed in the wall sentimentalist when it comes to uncle Claudio…
RoboFox Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 Should never have gone there in the first place, unfortunately. He left such a great legacy in the Premier League... City should have been his swan song and a giant "f**k you" to his detractors and the football elite.
Nalis Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 4 minutes ago, RoboFox said: Should never have gone there in the first place, unfortunately. He left such a great legacy in the Premier League... City should have been his swan song and a giant "f**k you" to his detractors and the football elite. Precisely this. Also, Puel to Fulham?
Guest Mee-9 Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 He isn't the sort of manager that when shit hits the fan, can turn it around.
RonnieTodger Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 You’d think the wider media and general public would now understand why we sacked him, but there’s tonnes of comments saying “he should still be at Leicester”. Was really hoping it’d work for him at Fulham, but he’s just not got it anymore. Hope he packs it in. Just goes to show how incredible 2015/16 really was.
Tuna Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 Not the manager you'd want for a relegation battle. Daft appointment by Fulham, daft decision by Ranieri.
ealingfox Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 Had no idea the club described it as a 'risk free and ready made' appointment That is hilarious. Explains the banner last night. Did anyone actually think he'd be good there?
Corky Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 4 minutes ago, ealingfox said: Had no idea the club described it as a 'risk free and ready made' appointment That is hilarious. Explains the banner last night. Did anyone actually think he'd be good there? I thought he'd improve them defensively as he managed with us after a shaky start but that never materialised. Seems to be a pattern that when he hits a bad run it gets progressively worse with each match. They were thumped at Palace, didn't turn up against Man United and according to Sky last night, the players looked to have given up.
davieG Posted 28 February 2019 Posted 28 February 2019 Claudio Ranieri: Fulham sack manager having had 'romantic visions of Leicester' By Phil McNulty Chief football writer 2 hours ago From the sectionFulham Ranieri lasted just 106 days at Fulham Fulham's fanfare accompanying the appointment of Claudio Ranieri after Slavisa Jokanovic was sacked in November labelled the Italian as "risk free and ready made for the Premier League". Those words were thrown back in the face of Fulham's owners via a banner brandished during the 2-0 loss at Southampton that ended Ranieri's calamitous 106-day reign at Craven Cottage. And they are made to look almost farcical given Ranieri's dismal record of three wins from 17 games as Fulham now looked doomed to relegation, standing 10 points from Premier League safety with only 10 games left. How, then, did it all go wrong for Claudio Ranieri? A step too far for the 'Tinkerman' Ranieri was unable to conjure up another Premier League miracle Fulham were banking on Ranieri repeating his spectacular feats at Leicester City, where he and his team captured the imagination of the world to pull off arguably the biggest shock in the history of British sport by winning the Premier League in 2015-16. Owner Shahid Khan glossed over the subsequent instant collapse at the Foxes which led to his sacking just nine months later, all momentum lost and the previous season's triumph looking like the sporting equivalent of lightning striking several times. Ranieri's Fulham reign started with a win at home to Southampton but it was a fortunate three points and his lack of impact on any part of Fulham's team meant they were left sleepwalking back into the Championship after an ambitious £100m spending spree last summer. He was meant to make Fulham harder to beat, more pragmatic and steely than under Jokanovic's expansive guidance. Instead, Fulham have got worse. Jokanovic's team were criticised for defensive weakness, but in 12 games they conceded 31 goals while Ranieri's have conceded 32 in 16 - despite organisation and defensive parsimony being one of the Italian's selling points. The football has been dull while Ranieri appears to have mislaid his blueprint for defensive organisation. Shortest Premier League managerial reigns Team Games Won Drawn Lost Total day in charge Les Reed Charlton 7 1 1 5 40 Rene Meulensteen Fulham 13 3 1 9 75 Frank de Boer Crystal Palace 4 0 0 4 77 Bob Bradley Swansea 11 2 2 7 85 Terry Connor Wolves 13 0 4 9 91 Colin Todd Derby 16 4 2 10 98 Tony Adams Portsmouth 16 2 5 9 106 Claudio Ranieri Fulham 16 3 3 10 106 He also suffered from a lack of discipline and direction, notably when Aboubakar Kamara had a training ground row with striker Aleksandar Mitrovic not long after insisting he should take a penalty - and not the Serb - against Huddersfield Town. Kamara missed the penalty, infuriating Ranieri, but the incident was almost symptomatic of the way Fulham's season was disintegrating. Ranieri has always been a popular character and criticism never comes easy from Fulham fans who were desperate to see flashes of his old qualities, but performances and his failure to correct them saw patience snap, as witnessed with the anger of the travelling support at Southampton. Only six managers have had shorter Premier League tenures than Ranieri and it has been sad to see the fire drawn from his personality in what has been a tortuous time at Craven Cottage. The "risk free and ready made" Premier League manager Fulham insisted they were getting when he was awarded a "multi-year" contract was a thing of the past. If there is the smallest consolation, it is that they have at least put Ranieri out of his misery before what now looks like an inevitable relegation. It was an appointment made with romantic visions of Leicester City. In the end, it resembled a loveless, arranged marriage which both sides appeared happy to end, with Ranieri hardly a picture of defiance post-match at St Mary's. Fulham have found, to the likely cost of a drop back into the second tier, that the sort of romance we saw at King Power Stadium is once-in-a-lifetime stuff. "Risk free and ready made" has turned out to be fatally flawed and unfit for purpose with a manager who only had one miracle in him. This was real life for Fulham and Ranieri and it has turned out to be a dreadful appointment. Can you name the Premier League managers with the 10 shortest reigns? Ranieri must not take sole responsibility Seri joined Fulham in the summer for a club record £25m fee but has failed to live up to expectations Ranieri was the manager taking Fulham towards the precipice - but make no mistake they were already on hazardous journey before he arrived. He has rightly paid the price for an ineffective, listless performance as manager but the signs were there when he arrived back in London, succeeding Jokanovic after Fulham garnered only five points from their first 12 leagues games. It was bad. And while it arguably got worse under Ranieri, this was a relegation in the making before his brief and inglorious time in charge. Fulham returned to the top flight hailed as an attractive addition given their easy-on-the eye and potent style that saw them win a Wembley play-off against Aston Villa. It soon became clear that what passed as progressive in the Championship was a recipe for trouble in the Premier League as Fulham were picked off by the more astute teams and players at the higher level. And while the £100m spent on a variety of players was hailed as a statement of ambitious intent, in reality it was a scattergun policy lacking in structure and strategy that was evidence of a poor recruitment structure behind the scenes. Aleksandar Mitrovic's £20m signing from Newcastle United after a loan has been good business but other big-money buys such as defender Alfie Mawson, signed from Swansea City for £20m, Jean Michael Seri - who cost £25m from Nice - and £22.3m midfielder from Marseille, Andre-Frank Zambo Aguissa, have not stopped the slide. Ranieri has picked up those pieces and when this desperate season is put under the microscope, it is not simply his contribution that must come under scrutiny. What now for Ranieri and Fulham? Ranieri lives for football management but, as one of the elder statesmen with another sacking on his record, it is hard to see him now getting the sort of high-profile job he would crave. It has been suggested by some he should have quit on an incredible high at Leicester City, but football men are not wired like that. Ranieri has looked a shadow of his former self this season; a lost and beaten man for some time. He and so many others will have warm memories of that glorious 2015-16 campaign - but his time at the top and in the Premier League is surely over. As for Fulham and Ranieri's interim replacement Scott Parker, they must somehow try to fashion an unlikely miracle against all the odds and evidence. Ranieri's career since winning the title at Leicester City proves they do not come along too often. Parker, highly regarded as a coach, can at least enter the job with a clear head. No-one will blame him should the worst come to pass. He must somehow glue together a disjointed squad lacking in confidence and low in morale, starting at home to Chelsea on Sunday. Chelsea have proved they can be vulnerable on the road but Parker must unlock something that has been well hidden for months. The key is playing to Mitrovic's goalscoring strengths while finding a way to keep a clean sheet. If he can somehow ensure Fulham survive, or at least show signs of life, he might yet come into owner Khan's thinking as Ranieri's successor.
fuchsntf Posted 1 March 2019 Posted 1 March 2019 I actually thought Fulham would stay up,but not because of Ranieri,but their squad looked tasty..!! Ranieris destruction of our BRoom staff,and break up of excellent ideas,opting for "Old Italian ways was the major reason why towards the end,I actually wanted him to be sacked. If he had meshed his ideas with those of what Pearson built,he would of carried us further...but he was bombastic and stubborn to his ways .It was the the squad that needed tweeking,not the System supporting them IMO. Puel brought better ideas at least...maybe just maybe if he had that B.room staff behind him he would of got the team into a better attitude...but that's gone and empty speculation.... Fulham got a manager,who had not learnt and again brought ancient ideas with him.... but to me he still twee ked us at the right time at the right moment..and is a major part to Our title hisory...He wasn't clever enough in his 2nd season,cos his needs decided to hold onto the Italian-cheesecake-idea...Though he rode with it,even at the end of that season,I believe he was gobsmacked and never understood What he really had....!! Though I defended him right up to January,but anything we/he had, had imploded..because of him!! I will never wish him ill,but I can't see him being chased down or offered any PL or even Championship job again!!! His age is the major reason..but also other reasons!! If Fulham are clever,they should now give support to Parker,this and next season...
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