davieG Posted 4 March 2019 Posted 4 March 2019 Sweeping rule changes will come into effect next season in a bid to improve fair play in football. Goals scored or created with the aid of a hand or arm, even if accidental, will be disallowed after football’s lawmakers approved several changes to the rules. In other changes approved by the International FA Board (IFAB) substitutes will have to leave the pitch at the nearest goal line or touchline instead of walking to their technical area in a bid to stop time-wasting. “On the topic of defining handball, a decision was taken by the IFAB to provide a more precise and detailed definition for what constitutes handball, in particular with regard to the occasions when a non-deliberate/accidental handball will be penalised,” read an IFAB statement. “For example, a goal scored directly from the hand/arm (even if accidental) and a player scoring or creating a goal-scoring opportunity after having gained possession/control of the ball from their hand/arm (even if accidental) will no longer be allowed.” On the subject of substitutions, it was decided that a change was needed to speed up play. IFAB added: “Following experiments in different parts of the world, the AGM also approved changes to the Laws of the Game related to a player being substituted having to leave the field of play at the nearest boundary line, yellow and red cards for misconduct by team officials and the ball not having to leave the penalty area at goal kicks and defending team free-kicks in the penalty area. “Additional approved law changes included: measures to deal with attacking players causing problems in the defensive ‘wall’; changing the dropped ball procedure; giving a dropped ball in certain situations when the ball hits the referee; and the goalkeeper only being required to have one foot on the line at a penalty kick.” The law-making body also acknowledged that the introduction of video assistant referees had been a big success. “Following the historic decision taken a year ago at the 132nd IFAB annual general meeting to approve the use of VARs, the FIFA president Gianni Infantino, in unity with fellow members of the IFAB, expressed their satisfaction with the significant impact and success VAR has had,” IFAB added. “Partly as a result of its success in the 2018 FIFA World Cup in Russia, VAR is now an accepted part of football and has brought greater fairness to the game without any significant interruption with reviews on average taking just over a minute once every three games.” https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/premier-league-rule-changes-leicester-2604066
davieG Posted 4 March 2019 Author Posted 4 March 2019 Some of these make me think it confuses more than it clarifies adding more subjectivity and opportunities for players to 'cheat'.
OntarioFox Posted 4 March 2019 Posted 4 March 2019 The substitution change is great. It's always incredibly frustrating when chasing a game when a substitution is made, the player takes an age to leave the field of play, then the ref doesn't add the time on.
Babylon Posted 4 March 2019 Posted 4 March 2019 2 minutes ago, OntarioFox said: The substitution change is great. It's always incredibly frustrating when chasing a game when a substitution is made, the player takes an age to leave the field of play, then the ref doesn't add the time on. Or they could just implement a rule whereby the refs could just stop his watch if there is time wasting... oh hang on we already have that but they don't use it.
davieG Posted 4 March 2019 Author Posted 4 March 2019 1 minute ago, OntarioFox said: The substitution change is great. It's always incredibly frustrating when chasing a game when a substitution is made, the player takes an age to leave the field of play, then the ref doesn't add the time on. A visible official time-keeping clock would solve this and other time wasting shenanigans. Plus there's way more time spent setting up free-kicks outside the penalty are most of which either hit the wall or go sailing over the crossbar.
womp Posted 4 March 2019 Posted 4 March 2019 commentators were on about someones silhouette in regards to handball??? like the sub one. its not just attackers causing havoc in the walls,defenders push them away too. now if they cleaned up the fiasco around free kicks near the box.
Voll Blau Posted 4 March 2019 Posted 4 March 2019 The sub thing is great, but is going to lead to away players having to run the gauntlet round the sidelines to get back to the bench at a few grounds. Imagine being a West Ham player having to do that at Millwall.
RowlattsFox Posted 4 March 2019 Posted 4 March 2019 Agree with handball changes, but why should a defender benefit from an accidental handball when an attacker can't? I still think handballs should be indirect free kicks unless clearly deliberate.
Ashley Posted 4 March 2019 Posted 4 March 2019 What I'd like to know is. If a high foot is deemed dangerous, at what point does a keeper coming to punch a ball become dangerous? Let's be honest it wont ever come to that because Keepers get far too much protection.
AKCJ Posted 4 March 2019 Posted 4 March 2019 9 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said: Agree with handball changes, but why should a defender benefit from an accidental handball when an attacker can't? I still think handballs should be indirect free kicks unless clearly deliberate. Yeah I don't really get it. 90% of handballs aren't deliberate.
Izzy Posted 4 March 2019 Posted 4 March 2019 The games in danger of dissapearing up its own arse. They should be taking rules away, not adding more of them
Babylon Posted 4 March 2019 Posted 4 March 2019 1 minute ago, Ashley said: What I'd like to know is. If a high foot is deemed dangerous, at what point does a keeper coming to punch a ball become dangerous? Let's be honest it wont ever come to that because Keepers get far too much protection. So long as you win the ball as a keeper you are allowed to basically kill someone.
urban.spaceman Posted 4 March 2019 Posted 4 March 2019 43 minutes ago, davieG said: Sweeping rule changes will come into effect next season in a bid to improve fair play in football. Goals scored or created with the aid of a hand or arm, even if accidental, will be disallowed after football’s lawmakers approved several changes to the rules. In other changes approved by the International FA Board (IFAB) substitutes will have to leave the pitch at the nearest goal line or touchline instead of walking to their technical area in a bid to stop time-wasting. “On the topic of defining handball, a decision was taken by the IFAB to provide a more precise and detailed definition for what constitutes handball, in particular with regard to the occasions when a non-deliberate/accidental handball will be penalised,” read an IFAB statement. “For example, a goal scored directly from the hand/arm (even if accidental) and a player scoring or creating a goal-scoring opportunity after having gained possession/control of the ball from their hand/arm (even if accidental) will no longer be allowed.” On the subject of substitutions, it was decided that a change was needed to speed up play. IFAB added: “Following experiments in different parts of the world, the AGM also approved changes to the Laws of the Game related to a player being substituted having to leave the field of play at the nearest boundary line, yellow and red cards for misconduct by team officials and the ball not having to leave the penalty area at goal kicks and defending team free-kicks in the penalty area. “Events in Leicester City’s games will only be counted from the 15th minute onwards until the 89th minute.” “Additional approved law changes included: measures to deal with attacking players causing problems in the defensive ‘wall’; changing the dropped ball procedure; giving a dropped ball in certain situations when the ball hits the referee; and the goalkeeper only being required to have one foot on the line at a penalty kick.” The law-making body also acknowledged that the introduction of video assistant referees had been a big success. “Following the historic decision taken a year ago at the 132nd IFAB annual general meeting to approve the use of VARs, the FIFA president Gianni Infantino, in unity with fellow members of the IFAB, expressed their satisfaction with the significant impact and success VAR has had,” IFAB added. “Partly as a result of its success in the 2018 FIFA World Cup in Russia, VAR is now an accepted part of football and has brought greater fairness to the game without any significant interruption with reviews on average taking just over a minute once every three games.” https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/premier-league-rule-changes-leicester-2604066 Agree with most of these, particularly the highlighted bit.
rico Posted 4 March 2019 Posted 4 March 2019 I suppose players due substituted near the end of games will now find themselves in the middle of the pitch ....?
Guest ttfn Posted 4 March 2019 Posted 4 March 2019 7 minutes ago, Ashley said: What I'd like to know is. If a high foot is deemed dangerous, at what point does a keeper coming to punch a ball become dangerous? Let's be honest it wont ever come to that because Keepers get far too much protection. Foster’s challenge on Vardy yesterday is at the very least a foul and a yellow card. It’s clearly excessive force, it’s clearly reckless and it’s clearly endangering the safety of an opponent. That he “gets the ball” is totally irrelevant, much as it was when Vardy put in that ridiculous challenge against Wolves earlier in the season for which he was rightly sent off.
Ashley Posted 4 March 2019 Posted 4 March 2019 9 minutes ago, Babylon said: So long as you win the ball as a keeper you are allowed to basically kill someone. Pretty much.
womp Posted 4 March 2019 Posted 4 March 2019 they reckon VAR works!!! seen a few decisions that argue thats not entirely true
Xen Posted 4 March 2019 Posted 4 March 2019 53 minutes ago, davieG said: A visible official time-keeping clock would solve this and other time wasting shenanigans. Plus there's way more time spent setting up free-kicks outside the penalty are most of which either hit the wall or go sailing over the crossbar. It's one of the things which rugby gets right, to be honest. Visible clock that gets paused whenever there's a (major*) stoppage, and halves only ever last 45 minutes (with a little lee-way for current phases of play to finish). Simple and players can't abuse it. *There will have to be some exclusions to ensure games don't suddenly increase by a huge duration. Things like throw-ins, and free-kicks (where the referee doesn't use his spray), for instance.
StanSP Posted 4 March 2019 Posted 4 March 2019 6 minutes ago, womp said: they reckon VAR works!!! seen a few decisions that argue thats not entirely true For the majority of decisions, it clearly does. Look at how many decisions would be overturned just in the last few weeks in the Premier League.
RonnieTodger Posted 4 March 2019 Posted 4 March 2019 I think it was Matthew Syed that suggested simply banning substitutions in second half injury time. Great idea, can't believe nobody has said it before.
Wolfox Posted 4 March 2019 Posted 4 March 2019 34 minutes ago, Babylon said: So long as you win the ball as a keeper you are allowed to basically kill someone. That’s always been the case…. Even if you don’t win the ball….
womp Posted 4 March 2019 Posted 4 March 2019 1 minute ago, StanSP said: For the majority of decisions, it clearly does. Look at how many decisions would be overturned just in the last few weeks in the Premier League. yes,thats true but surely a system that has 3 guys sitting in a room with numerous tvs and every angle available that it should be 99.9%. i could be wrong but not one ref has gone against the VAR guys,once he goes and looks he changes his decision so why go look. seen the napoli v Juventus penalty?? do you think that was the right call??
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 4 March 2019 Posted 4 March 2019 28 minutes ago, Xen said: It's one of the things which rugby gets right, to be honest. Visible clock that gets paused whenever there's a (major*) stoppage, and halves only ever last 45 minutes (with a little lee-way for current phases of play to finish). Simple and players can't abuse it. *There will have to be some exclusions to ensure games don't suddenly increase by a huge duration. Things like throw-ins, and free-kicks (where the referee doesn't use his spray), for instance. But doesn't the clock keep running as they reset a scrum for the 17th time?
Footballwipe Posted 4 March 2019 Posted 4 March 2019 Some good stuff in these rules. The substitution one is especially good news and I hope referees make sure players do as they're told. I can imagine some pretending they don't know what's going on and walking to the usual place at the start. I also hope it doesn't mean they find even more inventive ways of time wasting. How much longer do throw-ins, free/goal kicks need to be than they already are. Referees pointing at their watch and booking a keeper in the 90th minute is not a deterrent. The handball one is important; let's face it handball is never ever going to be settled once and for all unless you blanket every handball with a free kick. But "accidental" should never be an excuse if a goal is scored or stopped with a hand/arm. 17 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: But doesn't the clock keep running as they reset a scrum for the 17th time? It does. It's an absolute myth from proponents of clock stopping in football that rugby is some beacon of light in this. Tries, conversions, penalties, scrums etc. The clock rolls on and on. A rugby match would take forever if it stopped when the ball was out of play, as would a football game.
Fox In The Box 90 Posted 4 March 2019 Posted 4 March 2019 Its offside thats the most stupid. A body part that can score a goal being offside? Who dreamed of that one? A linesman watching the ball be played from the player assisting and then having to see if an attackers knee is beyond a defenders foot? Ridiculous. Its not even clear with VAR.... it can be THAT marginal you cannot say the linesman has made a clear error (even if the decision is a matter of "fact") and sometimes youd have to work out the point the ball leaves the assisting players foot. In short, more benefit of the doubt to the attacker would be a huge improvement
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