Premier League rule changes for next season

[Wortho]

34 minutes ago, ttfn said:

Foster’s challenge on Vardy yesterday is at the very least a foul and a yellow card.

 

It’s clearly excessive force, it’s clearly reckless and it’s clearly endangering the safety of an opponent. That he “gets the ball” is totally irrelevant, much as it was when Vardy put in that ridiculous challenge against Wolves earlier in the season for which he was rightly sent off.

That is what I thought as well. It was excessive force.

[Guest Markyblue]

2 hours ago, davieG said:

A visible official time-keeping clock would solve this and other time wasting shenanigans. Plus there's way more time spent setting up free-kicks outside the penalty are most of which either hit the wall or go sailing over the crossbar.

Well at least they do when its our freekick.

[Xen]

1 hour ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

But doesn't the clock keep running as they reset a scrum for the 17th time?

It may well do. Been a while since I watched rugby admittedly.

From what I remember its stopped for tries, penalties and injuries, but otherwise the clock doesn't stop which keeps the game free-flowing and prevents it from becoming a stop-start affair. With scrums isn't the onus on the players to keep the game flowing, and if they waste time with repeatedly collapsing scrums the opposition gets awarded extra yards/penalty/penalty try? So the clock doesn't stop but the game is still 'in play' and there's incentive not to waste time.

 

It'd need some refining to work with football, but I feel like it'd be pretty easy to adapt and help prevent arguments about too much/little time added on, etc.

[Bert]

So if an accidental handball is penalised for the attacking team will the defending team be penalised too?

[AyewJoking]

3 hours ago, Voll Blau said:

The sub thing is great, but is going to lead to away players having to run the gauntlet round the sidelines to get back to the bench at a few grounds. Imagine being a West Ham player having to do that at Millwall. 

Millwall will never be premier league

[Corky]

3 hours ago, ttfn said:

Foster’s challenge on Vardy yesterday is at the very least a foul and a yellow card.

 

It’s clearly excessive force, it’s clearly reckless and it’s clearly endangering the safety of an opponent. That he “gets the ball” is totally irrelevant, much as it was when Vardy put in that ridiculous challenge against Wolves earlier in the season for which he was rightly sent off.

And given the protection goalkeepers get when opponents just impede them, there needs to be some balance in decision making.

[pleatout]

4 hours ago, Babylon said:

Or they could just implement a rule whereby the refs could just stop his watch if there is time wasting... oh hang on we already have that but they don't use it.

I'm not really sure how you think it works then.  Refs use a stopwatch (well I did).  You stop it when the time taken becomes "excessive".  That's where the debate starts.  We get this pundit "30 seconds for each substitution" nonsense.  Some take 10 seconds, some take minutes.. Stop the watch and restart when play does.  BUT it isnt basketball.  The watch doesnt stop everytime the ball goes out.

[Babylon]

4 minutes ago, pleatout said:

I'm not really sure how you think it works then.  Refs use a stopwatch (well I did).  You stop it when the time taken becomes "excessive".  That's where the debate starts.  We get this pundit "30 seconds for each substitution" nonsense.  Some take 10 seconds, some take minutes.. Stop the watch and restart when play does.  BUT it isnt basketball.  The watch doesnt stop everytime the ball goes out.

They rarely do make use of it when it's excessive, which is my point. Same goes goes for other time wasting.

 

You'd be better off forgetting the 30 seconds stuff and just stopping and starting as soon as you signal the sub can happen and as soon as play restarts. End of issue.

[pleatout]

1 minute ago, Babylon said:

They rarely do make use of it when it's excessive, which is my point. Same goes goes for other time wasting.

 

You'd be better off forgetting the 30 seconds stuff and just stopping and starting as soon as you signal the sub can happen and as soon as play restarts. End of issue.

That's what happens. The watch is stopped and started.If a substitution is going to take as long as a "normal" corner or throw-in the the ref wont stop it.  Every game has added time, so clearly refs do make use of it.

 

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Ashley said:

What I'd like to know is. 

 

If a high foot is deemed dangerous, at what point does a keeper coming to punch a ball become dangerous? 

 

 

This will never be a problem for Kasper because he never leaves his line even when the ball crosses inside his 6 yd box.

 

 

27 minutes ago, pleatout said:

That's what happens. The watch is stopped and started.If a substitution is going to take as long as a "normal" corner or throw-in the the ref wont stop it.  Every game has added time, so clearly refs do make use of it.

 

That's not true. If it happened how you suggested the added time would be much longer at the end of every game.

[murphy]

5 hours ago, Voll Blau said:

The sub thing is great, but is going to lead to away players having to run the gauntlet round the sidelines to get back to the bench at a few grounds. Imagine being a West Ham player having to do that at Millwall. 

True.  

 

Also, you would have a player in full kit wandering around the touchline.  Could be very distracting, you could even imagine a team mate sending a pass over to the subbed player and out of play.

[Father Ted]

6 hours ago, Voll Blau said:

The sub thing is great, but is going to lead to away players having to run the gauntlet round the sidelines to get back to the bench at a few grounds. Imagine being a West Ham player having to do that at Millwall. 

Pray for Chilwell if he ever gets substituted off at a hostile ground

[Lesta2014]

Surely the hand ball one should be same for defensive positions too? Whether accidental or not theygain advantage? Could see a lot more penalties etc and higher scoring games 

[Wolfox]

21 minutes ago, Lesta2014 said:

Surely the hand ball one should be same for defensive positions too? Whether accidental or not theygain advantage? Could see a lot more penalties etc and higher scoring games 

No…. You’d have the ‘Biaggio’ effect where all the attacker needs do is clip the ball into a defenders arm…. Nobody would ever bother shooting at goal again…

[Lesta2014]

11 minutes ago, Wolfox said:

No…. You’d have the ‘Biaggio’ effect where all the attacker needs do is clip the ball into a defenders arm…. Nobody would ever bother shooting at goal again…

True but I don’t see how the scoring one equals out as fair? Defenders get the upper hand still? 

[Wolfox]

Just now, Lesta2014 said:

True but I don’t see how the scoring one equals out as fair? Defenders get the upper hand still? 

Yes…. They do, but, it removes all the ‘shades of grey’ around intent…. It seems broadly sensible, but, certainly couldn’t work the other way round

[norwichfox]

45 minutes ago, Father Ted said:

Pray for Chilwell if he ever gets substituted off at a hostile ground

He'll probably wear gloves at such grounds....he's not the frail little thing he was at Millwall anymore.

[Legend_in_blue]

As long as the rule book is supplied at size 72 font, Moss shouldn't have too much trouble implementing the changes.

[Mark_w]

https://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2019/03/02/5c7acb0f22601d49788b45cc.html

 

This rebound rule change is just so f***ing stupid.

[norwichfox]

8 minutes ago, Mark_w said:

https://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2019/03/02/5c7acb0f22601d49788b45cc.html

 

This rebound rule change is just so f***ing stupid.

I agree, can only think that it's to save the referee's even more criticism when they miss seeing the attacking player 2 yards or more into the box as the kick is taken.

[Ashley]

2 hours ago, FIF said:

This will never be a problem for Kasper because he never leaves his line even when the ball crosses inside his 6 yd box.

 

 

That's not true. If it happened how you suggested the added time would be much longer at the end of every game.

Okay.. so one of our players get taken out by a keeper. Then what? 

[stripeyfox]

With the no rebound rule, we'll probably never have a "Deeney Day". Which although it was gutting for us, it was an amazing 30 seconds of football, and one of the reasons the game is so amazing (although not always). The sheer unpredictability is what everyone loves. It seems a crazy rule change, especially as VAR should mop up any encroachments etc

 

[Clever Fox]

7 hours ago, RonnieTodger said:

I think it was Matthew Syed that suggested simply banning substitutions in second half injury time. Great idea, can't believe nobody has said it before.

 

 

I've thought this for a while that no subs should be allowed after 90 minutes unless there's extra time. Then it should be after the 30 minutes extra time.

[Clever Fox]

Another few changes is like to see are.

 

I think the game should continue until the ball goes out of play as in Rugby.

 

I once seen a Ref blow while the Ball was on it's way over the line and disallowed the Goal.

Corners should be taken from inside the corner circles and Penalties taken from on the spot.

[5waller5]

5 hours ago, Bert said:

So if an accidental handball is penalised for the attacking team will the defending team be penalised too?

Exactly. It's way more important to clarify the handball rule for the defending team in the penalty area than it is for the attacking team