ScouseFox Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 deffo the worst champions league final i’ve ever seen (maybe milan/june 03) but fair play. result was right. spurs literally didn’t even try, bizarre. kane is finished, for me. so easy to defend against, “unfit” or not.
Koke Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 3 hours ago, ScouseFox said: kane is finished, for me. so easy to defend against, “unfit” or not. Nah mate. He's still class. Probably will score 25 goals next season.
Koke Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 9 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: As much as I love to make fun of them I admire Spurs for even getting to the final. This is a great era for Spurs, they're not historical a CL club so they've done very well to consistently get top 4. If only they took the domestic cups serious, but oh well...
cambridgefox Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 8 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: Knowing the result I’m in a quandary. Which tweet makes me the happiest.
purpleronnie Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 Truly awful game which was matched with the worst atmosphere I can remember for a CL final...a little embarrassing given it was two premiership clubs. Tottenham should have approached it the same way they did at man city and ajax they would have beaten Liverpool last night.
String fellow Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 Imo, the main reason Spurs lost was because Mauricio Pochettino didn't have the guts to substitute Harry Kane with Lucas Moura at half-time.
whoareyaaa Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 1 minute ago, String fellow said: Imo, the main reason Spurs lost was because Mauricio Pochettino didn't have the guts to substitute Harry Kane with Lucas Moura at half-time. Poor management really, Moura should have started
davieG Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 12 hours ago, Ian Nacho said: I honestly despise Liverpool. I don't mind the fan's who are genuinely from Liverpool and who were out in Madrid but all I'm seeing on my social media feeds is people posting stuff about Liverpool, calm down love you're from Kettering. I've been to and forgotten more Liverpool games than half of these 'Liverpool' supporters have ever been. Shame they couldn't have both lost. My son in law is a born and bread Liverpool fan and lives in Oxfordshire don't be so quick to judge people on where they live. There's many LCFC fans on here who don't live in Leicester.
surrifox Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 10 hours ago, urban.spaceman said: Hubris - thy name is Tottenham
CosbehFox Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 13 hours ago, Facecloth said: Jenas is right about one thing, this needs to light a fire in Spurs to come back, to improve, work hard and win something. Too many of those players have regressed or stagnated, and believed the media hype around them. You'll never achieve anything if you rest on your laurels, and in reality, spurs have none to rest on. I get the impression Alli, Trippier and some degree Kane and Eriksen believe all the media hype that they're world beaters, but the fact they don't have any trophies should be proof enough they're not. Nowhere near the finished article they think they are. I’d question as a squad what do they think of how Kane got back in the team, nowhere near fit and left a player in form on the bench. Kane could have made that easier for Poch and the rest of squad by admitting he’s not ready and worth a place on the bench or he has 60 mins at tops in him.
Jimothy Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 Just now, Cardiff_Fox said: I’d question as a squad what do they think of how Kane got back in the team, nowhere near fit and left a player in form on the bench. Kane could have made that easier for Poch and the rest of squad by admitting he’s not ready and worth a place on the bench or he has 60 mins at tops in him. It seems to be a condition in this country, usually prevalent in big name England players who are either captain or close to it. They rush back from injury and play half fit. And rather than lament them for their selfishness (because that's what it is, selfish and arrogant, to play when you're well below par and know full well you won't fully benefit the team), we praise them for their bravery. Beckham did it, Rooney did, Terry did it, Gerrard did too. They didn't help the team, they just wanted to play on the big stage and were arrogant enough to think even at half fitness they were better than all other options. A strong manager wouldn't let it happen.
CosbehFox Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 I thought the game was largely pants due to the three week break.
surrifox Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 34 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: I’d question as a squad what do they think of how Kane got back in the team, nowhere near fit and left a player in form on the bench. Kane could have made that easier for Poch and the rest of squad by admitting he’s not ready and worth a place on the bench or he has 60 mins at tops in him. I think a lot of people saw that coming. As I hoped Liverpool would win I was chuffed they picked him . Just hope that if England get to an important final and there are doubts about his fitness that he doesn’t force his way in
stripeyfox Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 7 hours ago, ScouseFox said: deffo the worst champions league final i’ve ever seen (maybe milan/june 03) but fair play. result was right. spurs literally didn’t even try, bizarre. kane is finished, for me. so easy to defend against, “unfit” or not. you're lucky you weren't around to see Steaua Bucharest v Barcelona in 1986 then. That nearly sent the whole of Europe into a coma
boots60 Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 9 hours ago, ScouseFox said: deffo the worst champions league final i’ve ever seen (maybe milan/june 03) but fair play. result was right. spurs literally didn’t even try, bizarre. kane is finished, for me. so easy to defend against, “unfit” or not. 1 hour ago, stripeyfox said: you're lucky you weren't around to see Steaua Bucharest v Barcelona in 1986 then. That nearly sent the whole of Europe into a coma The game at the Heysel was for obvious reasons an extremely poor spectacle.
Guest ttfn Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 2 hours ago, surrifox said: I think a lot of people saw that coming. As I hoped Liverpool would win I was chuffed they picked him . Just hope that if England get to an important final and there are doubts about his fitness that he doesn’t force his way in He’s already done it. He was clearly injured and absolutely useless in the World Cup semi-final against Croatia, offering nothing in the second half in particular. Vardy got about 2 minutes at the end, even Welbeck would have been an improvement as if there’s one thing he might have done it’s stretched the Croatia defence. A man so obsessed with his own goal scoring legacy that he wins nothing. In many ways the ideal poster boy for the new generation of football fans more interested in individuals than teams.
Matt Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 2 minutes ago, ttfn said: He’s already done it. He was clearly injured and absolutely useless in the World Cup semi-final against Croatia, offering nothing in the second half in particular. Vardy got about 2 minutes at the end, even Welbeck would have been an improvement as if there’s one thing he might have done it’s stretched the Croatia defence. A man so obsessed with his own goal scoring legacy that he wins nothing as an individual. In many ways the ideal poster boy for the new generation of football fans more interested in individuals than teams. Interesting point you make. I heard something debating Salah a while back now and they were talking about people/fans supporting and following players rather than teams nowadays. We saw that with Mahrez ourselves I guess.
purpleronnie Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 2 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said: I thought the game was largely pants due to the three week break. Yep pro footballers forgetting how to play in 3 weeks.
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 8 minutes ago, purpleronnie said: Yep pro footballers forgetting how to play in 3 weeks. Not really what he's saying though. A professional athlete is going to lose that bit of edge, both mentally and physically, going 3 weeks without a competitive game. You get into a rhythm playing twice a week, then nothing for 3 weeks. Training is no real substitute. It may not have been the only reason it was a flat final, but it was most probably a factor.
CosbehFox Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 6 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: Not really what he's saying though. A professional athlete is going to lose that bit of edge, both mentally and physically, going 3 weeks without a competitive game. You get into a rhythm playing twice a week, then nothing for 3 weeks. Training is no real substitute. It may not have been the only reason it was a flat final, but it was most probably a factor. That’s my point. If you were a player in form, you’d be so annoyed that you have to wait three weeks for the final. The rhythm of playing / form completely delayed
purpleronnie Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 Plenty of games have happened where players/teams have breaks and turned in performances, just another excuse, we don't like to say players had bad games, we always make excuses. That's ok, teams can play poorly, that's what happened.
SouthStandUpperTier Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 5 minutes ago, purpleronnie said: Plenty of games have happened where players/teams have breaks and turned in performances, just another excuse, we don't like to say players had bad games, we always make excuses. That's ok, teams can play poorly, that's what happened. But the problem was more that the game was flat and lacked intensity, than it was poor from a technical standpoint.
purpleronnie Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 2 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said: But the problem was more that the game was flat and lacked intensity, than it was poor from a technical standpoint. Well 'they're exhausted' did pop up with around 25 mins left, so I guess if the teams/players play poorly its either they've had too long a break or haven't had a long enough break. They can't lose.
fuchsntf Posted 2 June 2019 Posted 2 June 2019 Now all of you have brushed off,your frustrations and handed out your slime jealous even bordering on envious remarks...... spurs reached their first ever CL final....a step further than all the other groaning numpty fans from other clubs... Liverpool..are the throned champions.....In a poor final,but they have an other Top European title to their name!!! we have seen many poor or below par finals...in the end it's that relationship between club,manager players and their own fans.... so let everybody else pull the gooseberries!!! spurs were the team who should of pulled the 2nd half around( not the last 10 mins). They didn't have the finess or tactics, Pocchitino couldn't find a 2nd Eriksson....Ali could of made this his game...last night shown me,he shouldn't be 1st team choice for England,his early youthful magic has gone. However Spurs had a great CL run,that went one game too far... Though Klopp doesn't have to prove himselve,this Pot will help take him to that next higher level...Liverpool I am sure will be well led into a new era... May other clubs also take into account..it's not the 1-2 seasons of larey support a good manager needs,but those 3-6 seasons.....!!!
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