frany104 Posted 11 February 2023 Posted 11 February 2023 20 minutes ago, Fox92 said: It’s not from people who don’t understand football, just because they have a different opinion to you. Barnes deserved the criticism but played well today again so deserves praise. It’s got nothing to do with differing opinions. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. What I don’t agree with is people taking aim at somebody who clearly was the only threat in our team when we had injuries and poor form was our only player with the ability to change a game. He had the weight of the whole team on his shoulders and should’ve been supported instead of hammered. That to me shows complete lack of football knowledge. I’m ok with people criticising but not in the way in which I saw on here. 4
Corky Posted 11 February 2023 Posted 11 February 2023 Both his finishes were lovely today. Him and Kristiansen already seem to be linking nicely. 2
Guest Col city fan Posted 11 February 2023 Posted 11 February 2023 So nice to read that people aren’t calling Barnes shite anymore. He isn’t shite. He’s an inconsistent young player who can be almost unplayable on his day and suffers badly in a team low on confidence. Definitely one to keep
Popular Post Chelmofox Posted 11 February 2023 Popular Post Posted 11 February 2023 11 minutes ago, Col city fan said: So nice to read that people aren’t calling Barnes shite anymore. He isn’t shite. He’s an inconsistent young player who can be almost unplayable on his day and suffers badly in a team low on confidence. Definitely one to keep Can’t remember the full details, but right at the end after Barnes’ 2nd goal (Fvck VAR), he took the ball and passed square. Seemed fair enough at the time all things considered. Bloke behind me yelled ‘Barnes you idiot, just run at them. For heavens sake Barnes!’ Said it before, people just expect Barnes to glide past defenders everytime from any position. We were at the front in H1 and it was a complete joy to watch him in the 2nd half. A performance like that for Liverpool gets all the pundits foaming at the mouth. For Leicester it won’t get much attention. Also worth reminding that todays goal puts him above Saka, Salah and Foden (ok Man City and Liverpool still to play). Presume they are all sh1t as well. I think with many people, no matter what he does they will never be happy. 6
tom27111 Posted 11 February 2023 Posted 11 February 2023 32 minutes ago, Col city fan said: So nice to read that people aren’t calling Barnes shite anymore. He isn’t shite. He’s an inconsistent young player who can be almost unplayable on his day and suffers badly in a team low on confidence. Definitely one to keep An out and out winger on the opposite flank was always going to make him better. More balanced and less predictable. I said weeks ago that Barnes would benefit from a similar player on the right. 1
tom27111 Posted 11 February 2023 Posted 11 February 2023 44 minutes ago, Corky said: That offside was ridiculously tight Not as tight as the one in the cup final. So I can live with it
Bert Posted 12 February 2023 Posted 12 February 2023 2 hours ago, Col city fan said: So nice to read that people aren’t calling Barnes shite anymore. He isn’t shite. He’s an inconsistent young player who can be almost unplayable on his day and suffers badly in a team low on confidence. Definitely one to keep He’s 25 years old. That isn’t young. Not for a footballer. 1
Guest Posted 12 February 2023 Posted 12 February 2023 Excellent. Unsurprisingly with an actual left back and right winger in the team as well as Maddison back he looks much better. His two finishes were those of a player who's had a burden lifted. Like everyone else he also looks like he's got a newfound energy and fight - I've been very critical of his work rate but he did a great job together with Kristiansen and it was nice to hear Rodgers specifically praising him for that after the game. I've no problem with people criticising him when he plays poorly - when he's bad he's often very, very bad - but I do wonder about the standards he's held to sometimes. Stuff like "fraud", "Championship player" and 6 goals in 24 being an "appalling" return. Look at the wingers (or wide forwards or whatever you want to call him) who regularly produce more than he does and then ask yourself how readily we can realistically attract or afford that calibre of player.
tom27111 Posted 12 February 2023 Posted 12 February 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bert said: He’s 25 years old. That isn’t young. Not for a footballer. It isn't that old either. Realistically, he's 2 or 3 years away from his peak. It's a tough position to play. As I've said so many times, wingers are hot and cold, even the best of them. We were so one dimensional with Barnes being our only natural wide man. Now we have another, the opposition have to worry about both flanks, not just one. And I've also said before, does Barnes need the team to play well to be able to play well? If we have confidence and are firing, he thrives. If we're shit and looking for a spark, it won't come from Harvey. He feeds off other people and confidence. Edited 12 February 2023 by tom27111 3
dmayne7 Posted 12 February 2023 Posted 12 February 2023 4 minutes ago, Bert said: He’s 25 years old. That isn’t young. Not for a footballer. Thing is, the best players are peaking so much later now that we could see similar here (might have already peaked). Finishing is top drawer and in both of the last 2 games, his defensive output and work rate have been much improved.
Bert Posted 12 February 2023 Posted 12 February 2023 1 minute ago, tom27111 said: It isn't that old either. Realistically, he's 2 or 3 years away from his peak. It's a tough position to play. As I've said so many times, wingers are hot and cold, even the best of them. We were so one dimensional with Barnes being our only natural wide man. Now we have another, the opposition have to worry about both flanks, not just one. And I've also said before, does Barnes need the team to play well to be able to play well? If we have confidence and are firing, he thrives. If we're shit and looking for a spark, it won't come from Harvey. He feeds off other people and confidence. Agree. But he’s certainly not in the young category, else he’d still be eligible to play age group internationals. 1
tom27111 Posted 12 February 2023 Posted 12 February 2023 Just now, Bert said: Agree. But he’s certainly not in the young category, else he’d still be eligible to play age group internationals. Yeah, I agree with you too, but he certainly still has time and potential to improve. Give the guy confidence and I think his potential is limitless.
Fox in the North Posted 12 February 2023 Posted 12 February 2023 As Tim Vickery says on many occasions, when the collective balance is right, the stars shine. I think that saying rings even truer if the star is a winger. Fair play to Barnes, what a performance today. 1
Munshi Posted 12 February 2023 Posted 12 February 2023 On 22/01/2023 at 16:05, Munshi said: He was not as bad as most are making out on here. Proper scapegoat Harvey has become it seems. Only Rashford and Almiron have more goals as wingers this season than Barnes btw. Never write him off.
Aleksz Posted 12 February 2023 Posted 12 February 2023 Having Kristiansen behind him, and Madders operating in similar spaces to him is actually freeing up him up. With those two distracting opponents on that side of the pitch, it’s stopping Harvey being doubled up on and ultimately becoming too predictable. Long may it continue.
justfoxes Posted 12 February 2023 Posted 12 February 2023 Felt sorry for Barnes goal that was disallowed compared to the Brentford equaliser he has miles onside and the goal should have stood, VAR is so inconsistent and they seem to make it up as they go along ruining the game where it was bought in to cut out the mistakes & cheating but it’s only making it worse ! 1
foxfanazer Posted 12 February 2023 Posted 12 February 2023 3 minutes ago, Topman said: Much better today Even better yesterday 2
Collymore Posted 12 February 2023 Posted 12 February 2023 4 minutes ago, Topman said: Much better today Understatement
FLAN Posted 12 February 2023 Posted 12 February 2023 I’m one of his biggest critics, mainly due to his lack of conviction in many games. Yesterday much better but still makes so many ooor decisions in games. I don’t think he will elevate his game to play at a higher level because of his lack of awareness in big moments
Scotch Posted 12 February 2023 Posted 12 February 2023 Kristiansen has clearly made a massive differance. Watch Barnes play when Thomas was behind him. How many times did we see Barnes run at the defender 1 on 1? It was almost every time. Look at the last two games. Watch what happens EVERY TIME Barnes touches the ball. Victor starts sprinting to go beyond him. It's never 1 on 1 because VK is always there which is even more impressive when you consider we are now moving the ball quicker and Kristiansen has less time to make that run than Thomas did when we were playing a slower possession based game. And I think that might have made a differance to Barnes' defensive commitment. He's sees how hard VK is working to help him so is more likely to to the same for him.
Guest Col city fan Posted 12 February 2023 Posted 12 February 2023 17 hours ago, Bert said: Agree. But he’s certainly not in the young category, else he’d still be eligible to play age group internationals. Shut up Bert He’s young compared to me or Zlatan 👍
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