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18 minutes ago, FoxyJim1987 said:

You're making the mistake, the big mistake that Boris is right wing and tories are right wing etc etc. I voted Conservative not because I love Boris, nor because I'm racist but because I didn't want a socialist loon bankrupting the country. Immigration being controlled for example is not racist, but common sense which should have been done years ago. It wouldn't stop multi culturalism at all, but anyone not with jobs not with a trade or skill, not seeking work or anyone with criminal backgrounds, wouldn't be allowed to freely live here. What's wrong with that? The left wing Labour was more severely left than the tories are right way way more. 

Yep and several militant left is what I am😂

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25 minutes ago, FoxyJim1987 said:

You're making the mistake, the big mistake that Boris is right wing and tories are right wing etc etc. I voted Conservative not because I love Boris, nor because I'm racist but because I didn't want a socialist loon bankrupting the country. Immigration being controlled for example is not racist, but common sense which should have been done years ago. It wouldn't stop multi culturalism at all, but anyone not with jobs not with a trade or skill, not seeking work or anyone with criminal backgrounds, wouldn't be allowed to freely live here. What's wrong with that? The left wing Labour was more severely left than the tories are right way way more. 

I didn’t vote Labour either but, just a quick question for you FoxyJim, do you think your views were in any way shaped by the super wealthy right-wing media?

 

It’s just that you seem to have perfectly regurgitated the lines they were pushing to smear a man who was a threat to their super wealthy elite.

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13 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Personally I haven’t highlighted the party of my support on my post. So I don’t know why you’ve used the term ‘your party’. Politics doesn’t belong in football. Neither does songs about poverty or disasters leading to death. 

 

Sometimes there’s maybe a higher line when you face a local rival but we’ve sang chants of this nature at three consecutive games. 

I meant your in general not you personally pal 👍

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9 minutes ago, MarshallForEngland said:

Of course it's tasteless, that's the whole point. Liverpool fans have made it clear to everyone that they get very upset about the Sun (whether or not their response is a reasonable one is another issue). And in general they appear to be an openly emotional group of fans and get wound up very easily. Football fans in the terraces are generally very good at identifying what will wind up the opposition fans the most.

 

If they acted with a quiet dignity regarding the whole affair, people wouldn't think to target it. But they have created this situation for themselves. They reliably flip their lid at anybody who fails the Hillsborough wallowing test, and they have armies of willing volunteers in the form of fans of other clubs who castigate anybody who isn't sufficiently mournful and sombre about it.

 

It really is not the same as other fans holding up helicopters. But if, in a few decades, we boycott a newspaper for saying something we don't like about the crash, we refuse to play on the anniversary of the accident, lambast anybody who doesn't meet our sympathy requirements and generally get wound up when anybody doesn't say or do exactly what we think they should, then I would fully expect opposition fans to exploit our sensitivities. But we don't behave like that and, I hope, we never will.

I find this bit a bizarre statement to make.

 

96 fans lost their lives and The Sun chose to blame the fans for it and created vile rumours at the time about what some fans did to others. I'm not fvcking surprised they banned the paper. 

 

What is this about a 'wallowing test' either?! Is it now bad to have sympathy for footballs fans who went to a game and never returned home?

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17 minutes ago, aussie-fox said:

Neither is a picture of a helicopter but you'd be pretty peed off if they teased u with that.

Can remember a few seasons ago Liverpool fans making airplane gestures at Old Trafford. If we had been 4-0 up they almost certainly would have been doing similar to with helicopters. Worst fans in the country by miles. 

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1 minute ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

I didn’t vote Labour either but, just a quick question for you FoxyJim, do you think your views were in any way shaped by the super wealthy right-wing media?

 

It’s just that you seem to have perfectly regurgitated the lines they were pushing to smear a man who was a threat to their super wealthy elite.

100 per cent no. I'm not wealthy far from it, I'm not influenced by anyone, and certainly not the media. As for right wing, I think people really need to study what this actually entails. 

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8 minutes ago, FoxyJim1987 said:

100 per cent no. I'm not wealthy far from it, I'm not influenced by anyone, and certainly not the media. As for right wing, I think people really need to study what this actually entails. 

This tweet is like a piece of performance art! 

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47 minutes ago, FoxyJim1987 said:

Do you know this for a fact. Cos the vast majority of the nation voted for him, just asking. 

In actual fact only 45% of those who voted supported the tory party. Or to look at it in another way only 30% of eligible voters in the nation. Not exactly the vast majority that you are claiming!

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The reaction on here to these clowns is worse than what they actually did. There is absolutely NO place for this in football. It's not "banter" and the whataboutery going on like "but  but liverpool fans do it" is absolutely laughable. 

 

I was taken to my first Leicester game when I was about 13/14. Up until that point I was a born and bread Rangers fan (I'm from the west coast of Scotand) and I continued with rangers as my first team and Leicester my second for a few years afterwards but the thing that drew me more towards Leicester as I got older was that it was generally all about football. It wasnt about religion or politics and that d!ckhead element in their fans was far less. 

 

I made the call to cut all ties with rangers when I was about 20 because they as a fanbase and club were something i didnt want to be associated with. I'm proud to be a Leicester fan, please dont excuse this sort of sh!te, that's what they do in glasgow. 

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Just to make it clear. Football and politics in the stands do not mix. Do not bring it into the ground, especially in chant form. Football should be an escape from the toxic world we're currently in, from both sides of the political divide.

 

Liverpool are just stupid with that chant, the response from our knuckle draggers was predictable.

 

As for the Sun signs. Well, please see the knuckle dragger comment above. Handful of arseholes who, if a comment about Vichai was made would be scrapping to get into that away end as quickly as possible.

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11 minutes ago, foxpleasure said:

In actual fact only 45% of those who voted supported the tory party. Or to look at it in another way only 30% of eligible voters in the nation. Not exactly the vast majority that you are claiming!

OK mate keep a firm grasp on them straws. 

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19 minutes ago, FoxyJim1987 said:

Why don't you just say what you mean mate instead of talking in riddles. And it's not a tweet, it's a comment on a forum. 

True. I am in tweeter mode, which is a different look and feel to here!

 

What I meant was,to deny you have been influenced by the press, but defending the press using the messaging they have persistently pumped out, is almost like you are mocking yourself. Maybe you were?

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