Empty Stadium Disadvantage?

[Collymore]

I was thinking this morning that behind close door games must suit teams that are struggling more than teams like ourselves where there is a buzz about the place.

 

Teams like Newcastle or team that are struggling might have players that dread the match day at home and this could affect the performance. 

 

Are we going to be disadvantaged more than others if we play in an empty stadium or am I over thinking here?

[Webbo]

I would have thought ,the size of the stadiums, you could probably put a few thousand fans in and keep social distancing. Not that they will ,obviously.

[Fox in the North]

I think ultimately, no matter what is done, there will a disadvantage for clubs doing well/poorly etc. It’s just about limiting it.

[Fox92]

Home atmosphere's aren't exactly great are they. The buzz is usually created by the away fans (I'm not just talking at our ground either, I mean when we're away too, like I've said before when people slate our home atmosphere most home grounds, if not all now, are the same). The media go on about "Home advantage" but this hasn't been a thing for years either as more and more away games are won nowadays.

 

I think players will feel the difference, that's only natural, but I think this will be because of no fans (including the away fans) not just the home fans. I can't see it being an advantage or disadvantage.

Edited 7 May 2020 by Fox92

[The whole world smiles]

I think it will negatively effect Sir Jamie Vardy. He's a player that thrives on the occasion and is fuled by opposition fans abuse. In fact in a recent podcast I heard Kasper say he's often terrible in training but clicks in for games. 

[JJD_LCFC]

Would it be fair to have just season ticket holders attend In all grounds. Of course they would have to keep to rules. I think we have roughly 20k season tickets sold so there is space to keep to regulations. 

 

I am not a season ticket holder that's not why I am suggesting this, just think at least with some fans in attendance there will be a better atmosphere, no clubs will have to give refunds for matches missed and players will have people to play in front of instead of feeling they are playing a training session.

 

Likely this is unfair to the home side, but then everyone has same allocations when playing at home. 

[bmt]

1 hour ago, Webbo said:

I would have thought ,the size of the stadiums, you could probably put a few thousand fans in and keep social distancing. Not that they will ,obviously.

I think doing this would risk people being idiots though (turning up without tickets etc). Maybe it could be part of a longer term plan but I wouldn't do it this year

[bmt]

7 minutes ago, Unique FC said:

Would it be fair to have just season ticket holders attend In all grounds. Of course they would have to keep to rules. I think we have roughly 20k season tickets sold so there is space to keep to regulations. 

 

I am not a season ticket holder that's not why I am suggesting this, just think at least with some fans in attendance there will be a better atmosphere, no clubs will have to give refunds for matches missed and players will have people to play in front of instead of feeling they are playing a training session.

 

Likely this is unfair to the home side, but then everyone has same allocations when playing at home. 

There's definitely not space to keep to regulations. Average seat is about 50cm wide, so you would have to have one person with four/five seats gap before the next person, and then you'd have to have four seats infront too. If you staggered people you could probably have people every five seats on every second row, so if A has someone in and X has nobody in:

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That's one seat in 12 being used, so capacity would be about 2650. I think we have about 23000 season tickets.

[Wolfox]

Has anyone read our atmosphere thread…?

 

According to many the team will surely be flying without our dull lacklustre and generally ungrateful support…

 

shackles off !

[davieG]

1 hour ago, Webbo said:

I would have thought ,the size of the stadiums, you could probably put a few thousand fans in and keep social distancing. Not that they will ,obviously.

Surely any relaxation in allowing some fans in will increase the chances of fans turning up outside with some trying to get in.

[Houdini Logic]

I don't know how Vardy will get inspired (possessed) without a few thousand people slagging off his wife. Noone for him to troll either if he scores. Sad times

[Facecloth]

1 minute ago, Houdini Logic said:

I don't know how Vardy will get inspired (possessed) without a few thousand people slagging off his wife. Noone for him to troll either if he scores. Sad times

Surely the club could play some abuse over the tannoy.

[shailen]

Something will have to give unfortunately if we are to continue the season. Its better than not being able to continue the season at all. 

[foxestalkisfullofidiots]

It will be really interesting to see who plays better than normal, I was listening to Gary Neville talking about how some players looked unbelievable in training but couldn't perform to the same level in front of a crowd.

[SystonFox]

16 minutes ago, Houdini Logic said:

I don't know how Vardy will get inspired (possessed) without a few thousand people slagging off his wife. Noone for him to troll either if he scores. Sad times

He could always just cup his ears infront of the empty away section. A scene id love to see

[Big Dave]

I don’t really get the argument that some clubs are putting forward about the neutral venues being a disadvantage to some clubs.

Yes, some of the lower teams have slightly more home games than away, but every club would have to play at a neutral venue, so every club will be in the same position.

[Spudulike]

28 minutes ago, Houdini Logic said:

I don't know how Vardy will get inspired (possessed) without a few thousand people slagging off his wife. Noone for him to troll either if he scores. Sad times

Can't we record something about Beckeh and get played over the PA when we need a goal? 

[Sammy]

26 minutes ago, SystonFox said:

He could always just cup his ears infront of the empty away section. A scene id love to see

Definitely going to happen, going to start making burner twitter accounts to abuse him before games to rile him up

[ScouseFox]

will deffo help us, most of our players have looked scared to play a home game since about december when we turned rubbish. 

[davieG]

9 minutes ago, ScouseFox said:

will deffo help us, most of our players have looked scared to play a home game since about december when we turned rubbish. 

Perhaps they were scared of the crowd. as there's surely a few in there they'd rather not turn up.

[whoareyaaa]

I think some of our players perform better when not under any pressure so it may suit us with the games being behind closed doors

[urban.spaceman]

Obligatory 'Man City already thrive in an empty stadium' joke.

[urban.spaceman]

The stadiums don't necessarily have to be 'empty' per se, just closed to fans. One thing the could possibly do, in order to bring in money, is open the hospitality boxes for free for NHS staff and key workers only as a thank you, and getting major companies to sponsor the boxes to cover the cost. Wouldn't make much of an atmosphere but it would bring in a tiny bit of match day cash.

[davieG]

6 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

The stadiums don't necessarily have to be 'empty' per se, just closed to fans. One thing the could possibly do, in order to bring in money, is open the hospitality boxes for free for NHS staff and key workers only as a thank you, and getting major companies to sponsor the boxes to cover the cost. Wouldn't make much of an atmosphere but it would bring in a tiny bit of match day cash.

I think they'd be blasted for making any money out of that idea, It would have to be the box owners giving up  their boxes so they would get the plaudits. Of course they'd have to justify no social distancing.

[Spudulike]

I think the biggest concern must be about the condition of players rather than the lack of atmosphere. We will be in serious danger of blowing our top 4 chances if they don't get their collective heads around this. An 8 point cushion isn't insurmountable. 

Edited 7 May 2020 by Spudulike
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