The Politics Thread 2020

[Voll Blau]

Absolutely mental excuse for the return of Parliament. The idea that it's some act of solidarity because people have to queue for other stuff is laughable. Hope he follows up on that half-commitment he made to proxy voting, having cheerleaders behind him today didn't seem to do him that much good...

[Jon the Hat]

17 hours ago, Bilo said:

Hate to burst the bubble of the Cummings Lovers, but...

If they had proof then Cummings would have been sacked by now.  Unless he went when all travel restrictions had been lifted of course, inc which case who cares?

[Jon the Hat]

18 hours ago, Finnaldo said:

Durham is 250 miles away, the other side of the country. Then on a 30 mile journey whilst there. Yes, far and wide. 
 

He was so well recovered when he went to the Castle that the whole exercise was to test his blindness he apparently developed from the illness? That doesn’t sound well enough to be wandering around in public, if you excuse my doubt.

Blindness?  No-one mentioned blindness ffs.  His eyesight had been a bit affected, blurred vision etc.  The day trip was a day trip regardless of why he took it he probably shouldn't have done.

[Finnaldo]

1 minute ago, Jon the Hat said:

If they had proof then Cummings would have been sacked by now.  Unless he went when all travel restrictions had been lifted of course, inc which case who cares?

That literally reviewed the lockdown fines to get him out of it. What makes you think he wouldn’t have made up another another tall tale for gov to easily excuse him for?

[Finnaldo]

Just now, Jon the Hat said:

Blindness?  No-one mentioned blindness ffs.  His eyesight had been a bit affected, blurred vision etc.  The day trip was a day trip regardless of why he took it he probably shouldn't have done.

Exactly, his vision was blurred, that doesn’t sound like he recovered to me. 
 

No, he probably shouldn’t have done it at all, hence the whole saga  

[Guest Bilo]

11 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

Absolutely mental excuse for the return of Parliament. The idea that it's some act of solidarity because people have to queue for other stuff is laughable. Hope he follows up on that half-commitment he made to proxy voting, having cheerleaders behind him today didn't seem to do him that much good...

I actually think this was his worst showing against Starmer yet, and there's some serious competition. If this continues, the mutterings on the back benches will turn into shouts. 

[Dahnsouff]

Thought today was he was poor, but I swear some people put Boris' normal feckless persona down to Starmer, when its just Boris being....well Boris  

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

31 minutes ago, Bilo said:

I actually think this was his worst showing against Starmer yet, and there's some serious competition. If this continues, the mutterings on the back benches will turn into shouts. 

He's being torn apart. 

[Innovindil]

Another development revealed at PMQs was that MPs shielding from coronavirus will be allowed to vote by proxy now that the House of Commons has ended remote sittings.

 

The hell? I thought democracy died yesterday or some shit? 

[Voll Blau]

4 minutes ago, Innovindil said:

Another development revealed at PMQs was that MPs shielding from coronavirus will be allowed to vote by proxy now that the House of Commons has ended remote sittings.

 

The hell? I thought democracy died yesterday or some shit? 

Well yeah, that's because they've rightly U-turned on some aspects of what they spent hours debating and voting for yesterday - making it even more of a spectacular waste of time than it already was.

[Innovindil]

2 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

Well yeah, that's because they've rightly U-turned on some aspects of what they spent hours debating and voting for yesterday - making it even more of a spectacular waste of time than it already was.

Bloody hell man, sounds like democracy. 

 

Been rebooted more times than spiderman. 

[Lionator]

9 minutes ago, Innovindil said:

Another development revealed at PMQs was that MPs shielding from coronavirus will be allowed to vote by proxy now that the House of Commons has ended remote sittings.

 

The hell? I thought democracy died yesterday or some shit? 

I think the mention and threat of discrimination and the equalities act may have had something to do with that.

 

Although yes, again it's a sign of a functioning parliament/opposition.

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

Johnson really lost the plot, if a few questions is all it takes then he's obviously really under pressure.

[Lionator]

Johnson knows he's a poor debater. The most shameful episode was dodging Andrew Neil where he'd have been exposed for what he is. During the debates last year they'd cleverly turned the narrative onto Corbyn and Corbyn's own inadequacies ultimately meant that he could not cash in on Johnson's obvious weakness (plus the promotion of a 'Brexit election'). He will absolutely avoid all public scrutiny until he is forced to intervene to save face where his bumbling persona can dig him out of a hole in addition to thousands of misinformation bots. 

 

Three more years of weekly roastings from Starmer will surely cut through to enough of the moderate, centrist public to have an impact. We can hope.

[StanSP]

Why did Johnson not condemn the actions of Trump response, when asked on 3 separate occasions? 

[Wymsey]

3 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Why did Johnson not condemn the actions of Trump response, when asked on 3 separate occasions? 

Because they're good friends and didn't want to slightly dampen the relationship between themselves/US and England?

[leicsmac]

4 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Why did Johnson not condemn the actions of Trump response, when asked on 3 separate occasions? 

Probably because there's not much political or diplomatic capital in calling the leader of a "friendly" nation a fascist-and-racist-enabling piece of pond slime, even if it is 100% true (which it is).

[Dahnsouff]

US Politics, but hey ho

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/07/trumps-collaborators/612250/

[leicsmac]

1 minute ago, Wymsey said:

Because they're good friends and didn't want to slightly dampen the relationship between themselves/US and England?

I hope they're not - not after all of this, anyhow. Being diplomatic is one thing, actually considering Toupee45 to be a friend is quite another.

[Dahnsouff]

8 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Why did Johnson not condemn the actions of Trump response, when asked on 3 separate occasions? 

Because after an economic horror show like this pandemic, economic friends will be useful 

[Dahnsouff]

3 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

I hope they're not - not after all of this, anyhow. Being diplomatic is one thing, actually considering Toupee45 to be a friend is quite another.

Looking at his syrup, I doubt he paid that much tbh

[WigstonWanderer]

19 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Why did Johnson not condemn the actions of Trump response, when asked on 3 separate occasions? 

He’s got to kiss arse or he won’t get a trade deal with the US

[Guest Bilo]

1 hour ago, Abrasive fox said:

He's being torn apart. 

Even as a Labour member who thinks Johnson is an inept charlatan unfit for office, it's almost sad to watch such a blatant mismatch. If today were a boxing match, it would have been stopped in the first round.

[Charl91]

Starmer has him on toast at PMQ's.

[StanSP]

21 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Probably because there's not much political or diplomatic capital in calling the leader of a "friendly" nation a fascist-and-racist-enabling piece of pond slime, even if it is 100% true (which it is).

Obviously not to that extent