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1 hour ago, HesNotGudjonsonn2 said:

I just think the issue is glaringly obvious. Strength in depth or in our case lack of it. It is a long season and players will get tired, injured and have drops in form. We need to be able to replace them with a better standard than we can. This isn’t easy to do as you need players to be willing to buy into the long plan and be prepared to work in a rotational or reserve situation. It will take time.

 

Look at Man City as a prime example,

 

B Silva goes off and Mahrez comes on.

Sterling goes off and Sane comes on.

Aguero goes off and Jesus comes on.

 

They can even replace a £60 million Right Back with a £50 million Right Back.

 

We have a long way to go to be able to do that but we have to persevere and give time for building.

 

Lets see where we are in a few years. 

..we will never be able to do that!!!

They (Manchester City) still finished well behind Liverpool, even with the listed star studded roster.

  I do not envisage us being in that position and know we can achieve great things with nowhere near their outlay.

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Stupid mistakes and needing 25 good chances to score a single goal is why we faltered. 
 

I don’t expect our squad to dwell and feel sorry for itself, they’re not children after all. It’s shit, it happened now just get on with it and let’s enjoy next season in the Europa League 🙂 still confident we can attract enough quality to do well.
 

I don’t expect (I hope) to win the Europa League but we can give it a bloody good go if Ricky P and the rest of our key players sign new contracts. Plus the additions of I’d say 6 players. 
 

New GK to actually challenge KS for no1

 

New CB as we only have two that are any use.

 

New CM to provide depth and competition for Tielemans.

 

Two Wingers

 

New Forward

 

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, splinterdream said:

Did you not see Lee Dixon dumbfounded criticism at Rodgers after the Man City game where Chilwell was left exposed to wave after wave of De brunye and Mahrez attacking and Rodgers did nothing, and the same happened with the Liverpool game. Brendan has been guilty of not seeming to react when there's danger, or reacting when it's not necessary 

As a side note, our own supporters slaughtered Chilwell for being unable to cope on his own with Mahrez and De Bruyne....and prior to that Alexander Arnold and Salah

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Posted
9 hours ago, AKCJ said:

I think there are enough leaders in the team for it to happen. The likes of Vardy, Kasper, Evans, Wes, Youri and Chilwell are all part of this elusive "leadership group" that John Percy speaks about quite regularly.

 

The trouble is it's not just about being a strong voice, it's about showing you won't stand for a drop in concentration or standards. I feel like the group of leaders will still do that. I just worry that they're not backed up by the likes of Drinkwater, James, King, Nugent, Konch etc.

 

We can only wait and see. I also wonder whether Brendan is the type of manager that's great at picking players up (like Nige was). I think he's clearly tactically brilliant and is great when we're on top, I just have reservations as to whether he's the inspiring leader when we need him to be.

Clearly tactically brilliant!

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It does seem like the end of the season is a little bit of a sink or swim situation but no where near as bad as after the Watford play off game. How we are mentally at this moment is a key question? 

 

Whether we come back from this stronger or bad momentum will rollover into next season is the key question. We have some characters in the squad to bounce back as well as the quality, but maybe we need a few fresh faces to bolster the squad as we were hit badly by a few injuries. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, splinterdream said:

Did you not see Lee Dixon dumbfounded criticism at Rodgers after the Man City game where Chilwell was left exposed to wave after wave of De brunye and Mahrez attacking and Rodgers did nothing, and the same happened with the Liverpool game. Brendan has been guilty of not seeming to react when there's danger, or reacting when it's not necessary 

Oh well if Lee Dixon said it....

Posted
47 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

As a side note, our own supporters slaughtered Chilwell for being unable to cope on his own with Mahrez and De Bruyne....and prior to that Alexander Arnold and Salah

Jurgen Klopp and Pep Guardiola got the better of him, he must be shit then lol 

Posted
2 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

..and the rest!!!

Not that many, really. Considering he's taken us to the second best Premier League finish.

Posted
12 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Oh well if Lee Dixon said it....

It was obvious, the point I mention Lee Dixon is if you heard what he had to say, he openly criticised Rodgers for not noticing it saying it was blindingly obvious which it was. I've not heard a pundit so vocal about a managers lack of tactical clout before (I think Roy Keane has done similar) 

Posted
2 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

It was obvious, the point I mention Lee Dixon is if you heard what he had to say, he openly criticised Rodgers for not noticing it saying it was blindingly obvious which it was. I've not heard a pundit so vocal about a managers lack of tactical clout before (I think Roy Keane has done similar) 

Lee Dixon could tell me the sky is blue and the grass is green.

 

I still wouldn't believe him. The mans a complete idiot.

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Posted
11 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

They need to look in the mirror and at themselves as to why they missed out, very poor performances for half the season.

 

Simpson is a great bloke, I really like him, very underated in our title win too.

Better defender than Chilwell will ever be!

Posted
48 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Lee Dixon could tell me the sky is blue and the grass is green.

 

I still wouldn't believe him. The mans a complete idiot.

Okay, personally I think he's one of the better pundits, no bias, very knowledgable 

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Posted
12 hours ago, AKCJ said:

If they wallow in disappointment or look to blame injuries/var/luck or whatever then they'll be destined to carry on in this shite form.

 

We need to go into the pre-season with a blank slate. Give players a chance to prove themselves. Lick our wounds and get the squad back together.

 

If we go into preseason with the post-Deeney Day mindset of "that's not ****ing happening again" then we'll be fine. I am sure of it.

 

I really hope the current set of players have the grit to do so.

Posted
4 hours ago, AKCJ said:

I would say that that was due to the players not being up for the fight/having the motivation.


He's clearly very switched on tactically? Surprised any Leicester fan would argue that. Genuinely baffled in fact.

Tell me when in his career that he's ever proved that to you with the exception of perhaps his early days at Swansea? For all his chelp he's made many astounding tactical blunders here as he seemingly did at Liverpool and was going down the same route at Celtic. His tactical nous in Europe with  Celtic was what precisely? He has got some good points of course but ... he's not in the Scottish league now and in some areas he's been found wanting badly.

 

When he was sacked by Liverpool lest we forget  he was a pariah, nobody wanted him at all, there was a reason for that. If he cocks this job up, for all his big time blarney, all big clubs directors will see straight through him. Yes, the players have to take some of the blame but that's only part of the story. If Rodgers doesn't in private to himself acknowledge that he too has cocked up at times then he deserves to fail and languish into obscurity. Rodgers wasn't the long awaited for Messiah, he was lucky to get the opportunity to manage Leicester City so we don't need any big time bollocks from him because thus far in his career, in Premiership terms, he's achieved the square route of bugger all. 

 

I hope he comes back next season rejuvenated and confident but in private, armed with the recognition that he too has to perform better and not just the blame the players.

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Posted

Everything is easy in hindsight.

I am sure BR is kicking himself for not bringing Morgan on when we scored in injury time against Watford.

Would have got us in Champions League.

Posted
13 hours ago, AKCJ said:

If they wallow in disappointment or look to blame injuries/var/luck or whatever then they'll be destined to carry on in this shite form.

 

We need to go into the pre-season with a blank slate. Give players a chance to prove themselves. Lick our wounds and get the squad back together.

 

If we go into preseason with the post-Deeney Day mindset of "that's not ****ing happening again" then we'll be fine. I am sure of it.

 

Just as impressive as the response to that was the response to actually completely blowing our 2nd place that year by losing so many games at the end.

 

So it's a very similar test of character. 

 

Our teams actually seem to respond worse when we've achieved anything. Usually because that achievement isn't possible again and we don't have the same drive to go at it again for a whole season. The dissapointment of 5th, might get a better follow up than if we'd finished 3rd and thought oh well we've got champions league this season anyway. 

Posted
6 hours ago, AKCJ said:

The second half of the Bournemouth game came about through a sheer lack of professionalism and mentality from the players.

Respectfully disagree to agree... 

Posted
6 hours ago, AKCJ said:

The second half of the Bournemouth game came about through a sheer lack of professionalism and mentality from the players.

I think the weird and mind boggling substitutions Brendan made put the team out of kilter too when all we had to do was defend our lead resolutely after our superior first half performance. That one game ultimately cost us a Champions League and was all in vain too - as Bournemouth were relegated of course!

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, volpeazzurro said:

Tell me when in his career that he's ever proved that to you with the exception of perhaps his early days at Swansea? For all his chelp he's made many astounding tactical blunders here as he seemingly did at Liverpool and was going down the same route at Celtic. His tactical nous in Europe with  Celtic was what precisely? He has got some good points of course but ... he's not in the Scottish league now and in some areas he's been found wanting badly.

 

When he was sacked by Liverpool lest we forget  he was a pariah, nobody wanted him at all, there was a reason for that. If he cocks this job up, for all his big time blarney, all big clubs directors will see straight through him. Yes, the players have to take some of the blame but that's only part of the story. If Rodgers doesn't in private to himself acknowledge that he too has cocked up at times then he deserves to fail and languish into obscurity. Rodgers wasn't the long awaited for Messiah, he was lucky to get the opportunity to manage Leicester City so we don't need any big time bollocks from him because thus far in his career, in Premiership terms, he's achieved the square route of bugger all. 

 

I hope he comes back next season rejuvenated and confident but in private, armed with the recognition that he too has to perform better and not just the blame the players.

 whhhhhoooey You do Love playing MR nasty pundit..

Why bother....Hes neither failed or succeeded...At this LCFC  job hes forfilled his first remit...

History of any manager coming in ,has for me no interest or bearing, Plus looking for negatives in another mans career, is a waste of energy,and in sport

Just Shows fans,supporters hypocrocy....

 

If BRodgers is so bad,und a Waste of space,then our very own legend Status owners, must be by any reasoning,

terrible in any Business sense,and their football Competence equally questionable. We took BRodgers Great moments,so creating twaddle and not showing, Understanding of his ups & downs,when it doesn't quite run to plan, is like the mardy kid,

who crys its his ball & if you Don t Play it to him,he will take it back home..!!.  

Plus every Football manager or every One from us is found wanting, its how they/we learn,develope & move our lives & careers forward...

 

There are alot of Posters on here that would find it difficult to work in any of my very successfull ex-firms Management and Project groups,Simply because they First concentrate on Dishing & Searching out negatives attacking all around them,before First Tasting the words of encouragement while loosing sight of the needs & targets.

Any persons in their First (successfull) season deserves more support than the shit we have seen in This forum's

"new Ethos and pathetic character of Personal hate "towards the Team & club.....!!!!

 

So Welcome to you all ... You have Now  joined that Rat Pack of Top 6 entitled arrogant fans we so use to despise.....

 

Ffs its a Light hearted Football forum..Not a Collection oF documents evidence in the Nürnberger Trials

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Posted (edited)
38 minutes ago, fuchsntf said:

 whhhhhoooey You do Love playing MR nasty pundit..

Why bother....Hes neither failed or succeeded...At this LCFC  job hes forfilled his first remit...

History of any manager coming in ,has for me no interest or bearing, Plus looking for negatives in another mans career, is a waste of energy,and in sport

Just Shows fans,supporters hypocrocy....

 

If BRodgers is so bad,und a Waste of space,then our very own legend Status owners, must be by any reasoning,

terrible in any Business sense,and their football Competence equally questionable. We took BRodgers Great moments,so creating twaddle and not showing,

Understanding of his ups & downs,when it doesn't quite run to plan, is like the mardy kid,

who crys its his ball & if you Don t Play it to him,he will take it back home..!!.  

Plus every Football manager or every One from us is found wanting, its how they/we learn,develope & move our lives & careers forward...

 

There are alot of Posters on here that would find it difficult to work in any of my very successfull ex-firms Management and Project groups,Simply because

they First concentrate in Dishing & Searching out negatives attacking all around them,before First Tasting the words of encouragement while loosing sight of the needs & targets.

Any persons in their First (successfull) season deserves more support than the shit we have seen in This forum's

"new Ethos and pathetic character of Personal hate "towards the Team & club.....!!!!

 

So Welcome to you all ... You have Now  joined that Rat Pack of Top 6 entitled arrogant fans we so use to despise.....

lollol

 

Buddy, if those Projects and Management teams were successful, it's because they realize that the key to success includes recognizing shortcomings. There's nothing wrong with alternatively criticizing and commending persons (including coaches and/or players) as deemed fit. It's most certainly not evidence of "personal hate towards the team and club" and blowing a gasket over the criticism of persons on a DISCUSSION forum is more self-commentary than anything else.

 

When your Projects and Management groups evaluate performance, one suspects it's not limited to the extremes of blanket canonization or demonization. Along same lines, while Brendan has had a good first full season with us, his performance was certainly NOT beyond reproach and (again to be brutally honest, because I personally like Brendan and wish him great success with us) frankly reaffirms that the jury is still out on his tactical nous at the very highest levels of the game.  

 

PS: Btw, pretty sure your 'successful' Projects and Managements group would affirm that the more successful one becomes, the greater/higher expectations become. 

 

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Posted
9 hours ago, Matt said:

I'm only providing one example here but Bournemouth 2nd half was certainly not being 'switched on tactically'. Without any need, rhyme or reason for the 'tactical' changes made.

 

There have been other things in a majority of games that I along with many others havn't and can't understand that have not worked but continually happen for the worse.

 

As for players not being up for the fight/having the motivation I was led to believe he was this great man motivator, having people run through walls for him.

(Not that they should have needed motivating for the task in hand, that should come from within themselves).

 

Listen i'm not for sacking him for numerous reason but i'm not exactly enthralled by what i've seen, far from it.

 

Rodgers is not very consistent tactically. At times earlier this season he was great, made all the right decisions, but then he'll make boneheaded moves like Iheanacho off vs Bournemouth.

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